Talk:John Boehner

Broken Reference to Strong Lobbyists Links of Boehner

Since I am not allowed to edit this page, could one of you with edit rights fix the links to the New York Times articles reporting Boehner's connections to Lobbyists? the link is http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/us/politics/12boehner.html In my opinion, this is a rather important piece of information and should be linked properly so that everybody can check out the source. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.130.251.118 (talk) 12:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality

Neutrality

I feel part of the article may be biased. It makes mention of President Obama attacking Boehner by "singling him out." Something like this should not really be here, its not really necessary factual information. Rather it just looks like someone trying to make Obama look bad instead.

You simply have to find a quote somewhere online that says Obama's attacking Boehner by "singling him out."Randnotell (talk) 03:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Quote from article: "" As Republican House Leader, Boehner is a Democratic target for criticism of Republican views and political positions. In July 2010, President Barack Obama began singling out Boehner for criticism during his speeches.[39] In one speech, Obama mentioned Boehner's name nine times[40] and accused him of believing that police, firefighters, and teachers were jobs "not worth saving."[41] ""

I firmly agree that the language used in this section comes across as biased. The first sentence is conjecture, which does not belong on Wikipedia at all. As for the rest, the wording could be changed easily and still relate the same information in a neutral manner, such as "President Barack Obama was reported to have been critical of Boehner in July 2010, etc..." although I would question the amount of detail that should be included here, in order to keep it brief and relevant in compliance with Wikipedia standards.--174.62.102.221 (talk) 22:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

At the time on PBS NewsHour both David Brooks (generally considered the conservative commentator) and Mark Shields (generally considered the liberal commentator) agreed that Obama was singling Boehner out during the Congressional 2010 election campaign. This was a well documented White House strategy that is well founded as opposed to slanted.--Brian Dell (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

If it's "well documented" then it shuld be able to be ...well documented. The source does not match what is being put forth. The source refers to one specific speech, and although it mentions him by name, does not indicate he is being singled out, but includes him with others also targeted in the speech. To say that one instance equates to leading to multiple is synthesis not represented by the source. The source does support that Obama targeted Boehner in that speech...nothing else. To draw further inferences from it is going beyond the source. I am assuming good faith and suggesting that it simply needs to be reworded to be supported by the source.204.65.34.94 (talk) 18:50, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

pronunciation of last name

I agree with bender235 and Ianbrettcooper. The pronunciation of the surname Boehner is indeed relevant, and It must be made clear that /ˈbeɪnɚ/ is not the right pronunciation but that used by Mr Boehner himself and, consequently, the media. Anyone with no knowledge of German whatsoever would naturally pronounce it ‘Boner’, but I suppose Mr Boehner was tired of the obvious puns and decided to invent the incorrect pronunciation Bayner. I still haven’t worked out why he didn’t choose to pronounce it ‘Burner’, which, as anyone with a smattering of German knows, sounds the same as the right pronunciation in German. I’ll wait some time, in case somebody decides to challenge me, and then I´ll put something along the lines of: “pronunciation used by himself and the media. Correct pronunciation in German: / bɜːnə/” Hindsighter (talk) 22:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

how the last name would be originally pronounced in german is totally irrelevant. going back a sufficient number of generations, all current americans stem from other countries, and no none bothers or tries to pronounce their names in the original language. take pelosi or obama, who both have last names of non-english origin. as a matter of fact, even american last names in the english language are pronounced differently from the way are in britain, the home of the english language. why on earth worry about boehner's "original" pronunciation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.154.0.250 (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of language (German, British, or American english), it's obvious that "Bay-ner" is the pronounciation for his name. Ever heard of Shawn Kemp, and his nickname "The Reignman?" It's pronounced like "Rain-man", not "Reen-man." rock8591 04:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Not only not obvious but not true, for German at least. 75.41.110.200 (talk) 19:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Boehner is a German name. The fact that Mr. Boehner's name has a different pronunciation is relevant, since most readers would naturally assume it was to be pronounced the usual way. The pronunciation 'Bayner' is not at all 'obvious'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianbrettcooper (talk • contribs) 19:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

• The only reasonable pronunciation is "John Boner". Everything else is humbug. My name is "MnuÜäfishdfa*%kkfudisl" - to be pronounced as Miller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.108.225.84 (talk) 07:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Ianbrettcooper. It has to be explained that John Boehner wants his name pronounced differently then one would intuitively pronounce it. Boehner is a German name, derived from the Middle German word "bö(h)nen" (meaning "to board", "to lay a floor"). The original pronounciation would sound like buh-ner, or essentially with the "oe" sounding like the "ea" in early. The intuitive American pronounciation would be boner (compare Boeing, also a German name). But John Boehner wishes a different pronounciation, and that has to be explained. --bender235 (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The "intuitive" American pronounciation is NOT "boner" by any means. I have not seen a single instance in real life where the letters "oe" next to each other produce a vowel sound "o". "Goetsch" rhymes with "Sketch", "Koetters" rhymes with "Kehtters". It's very rare (if existent at all) that 2 vowels next to each other result in the pronounciation of one of the vowels. Oftentimes, we see a different sound pronounced altogether; e.g. "reign" sounds like "rain". rock8591 04:21, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

"Note" section regarding Pronunciation of "Boehner."

"1 ^ The German pronunciation of the name Boehner/Böhner is [ˈbøːnɐ] buh-nair. However, Boehner's biography at House.gov recommends the pronunciation bay-ner."

I don't think that is correct. A closer to correct is burh-na, with the 'r' very rounded and short. Also, "-nair" is just wrong. The "-er" ending in German is essentially a short "a" sound, hence "-na." But, of course this all depends on his origin. What I have stated is correct in "Hochdeutsch" which is the "official" German language. As anyone who knows about German knows, though, there are a variety of major dialects and so depending on his family origin the "note" may be correct. It is just that the note states clearly that it is the "German" pronunciation and when using that term you are referring to Hochdeutsch.BinaryLust (talk) 23:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

That is probably correct. "buh-nair" was just my approximation. At least the IPA is correct. --bender235 (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

budjet cuts

    ALL  I WANT  TO SAY IS I THINK IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU ALL IN CONGRESS AND ALL POLITICAL OFFICE  SIT UP THERE AND DRAW THE WAGES YOU DO FOR AS LITTLE AS YOU GET DONE  I CHALLENGE ALL OF CONGRESS AND ANY ONE THAT HOLD A POLITICAL OFFICE  TO LIVE OFF MY WAGE  OF 921.00 A MONTH AND THEN  SIT AND LISTEN TO THE B.S THAT COMES FROM OUR POLITICAL OFFICIALS. IAM A SHAMED OF MY GOVERNMENT  SHAME ON YOU ALL.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.8.101 (talk) 12:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)