Talk:Pamela Anderson

Image

Why do we have a portrait of her instead of a photo? Photos just make more sense. In fact, they're more NPOV. Shakeer 03:13, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

(wryly) You try finding a photo of her that satisfies our licences. See Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Images for more info on what images we're allowed to use under copyright law. Yours, Meelar 03:21, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Now that we do have a photo, we don't need the "portrait" anymore. Lupo 15:57, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Of course, the person who had re-included the "portrait" wanted to know why I had removed it. Here's my reasoning (copied from my talk page): I do think that these "portraits" of T.Ho are of poor quality. They do not give the reader (or viewer, as it were) an adequate, realistic idea of how the person portrayed looks like. In articles where Wikipedia doesn't (yet) have a real photo of a person, using one of T.Ho's graphics may be all right—it may be better than no image at all. But once an article gets a real picture of the person, these artworks serve no purpose anymore. Wikipedia is not the place to showcase somebody's artistic skills, and realistic photos are to be preferred over artistic portraits in an encyclopedia whereever possible. Art, by its very nature, embodies the personal preferences of the artist and is less objective than a photograph. True, a photographer also composes an image and decides how s/he wants to depict a subject, but still I do believe that photographs are more neutral, realistic, and generally more suitable for use in an encyclopedia. For these reasons, I had removed T.Ho's portrait of Pamela Anderson, for that article has a real photograph. (Moreover, one that is purported to be in the public domain, whereas there is no clear licensing information for T.Ho's portrait.) Lupo 07:12, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

birthplace

According to IMDB, she was born in Vancouver Island. I don't know the geography of Canada but should we include that? --Hemanshu 21:10, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

if anybody ever does click on the link to find out where she is from, they will quickly find out that her town was on Vancouver island. it is correct as listed. (town, province, country). --jonasaurus 02:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Porn stars

Does she really qualify as a "porn star"? Having a personal home video released without permission could happen to anyone... —Tregoweth 02:43, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

i agree. porn star is not an accurate term. i will go ahead and fix that. --jonasaurus 02:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Barbara Rose Kopetski?

The German Wikipedia says that her original name is "Barbara Rose Kopetski". Is this true? -- nyenyec ☎ 16:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

No. Barbara Kopetski is the name of her character in the 1996 movie "Barb Wire"! Wahkeenah 17:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Funny vandals started this and have apparently had more success in the German section.--Noitall 20:09, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I wasn't sure if it was true vandalism or stupidity. Would it give them too much credit to assume it's a bit of both? Meanwhile, I wonder if the German Wikipedia also says Hitler's real name was Schickelgruber, and that he weren't no delinquent, he was just misunderstood?  :) Wahkeenah 20:20, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Just to let you know: the german wikipedia has already changed that mistake. (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Anderson) And your "funny" jokes about the german history and their huge historical responsibility just show, how ignorant you are! If you don't know anything about the way the germans are trying to cope with their history (and it's clear that you don't even have an idea how complicate and hard it is for the new generation of germans), you should just shut up - cause you've been really offending!!!!

You don't even get the joke, son, so take your own advice. Wahkeenah 19:21, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

So that's what you call a joke?

First, I'm not making fun of Germany, I'm making fun of German stereotypes. The part about the "delinquent" is lifted from some dialogue in the unrelated musical play "West Side Story", and that was the joke. I am very well aware of the crushing burden that Hitler's little adventure placed upon the German people. Secondly, since you're only an IP address, get back to me if and when you get a real logon. Wahkeenah 17:28, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Square corner left

what does this expresson "there's not a square corner left anywhere in my house" mean? i am sorry if this is a stupid question.

She was hinting at a masturbation technique, that being her only outlet due to not having dated for awhile as of the time of that interview. I think it paints an awesome mental picture.  :) Wahkeenah 20:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Can anyone provide verification that this is what she meant, and that it left "the usually unflappable Letterman speechless and red-faced for a moment"? I vaguely remember that show, and IIRC Letterman seemed to me to be befuddled, not embarassed, apparently not knowing what the hell she was talking about. If this factoid cannot be independently verified, it should be removed.

I remember her hawking her book. She readily admitted that it was written by a ghost writer, and I got the impression she hadn't actually read the book herself!

I reworded it to take away the jump to conclusions about Letterman's reaction. Maybe you're right that Letterman didn't follow what she was getting at, but it's more likely he was just reacting that way to keep things safe, as he will sometimes do when a guest might be treading on "dangerous" ground, and in any case it was clear as a bell otherwise. Wahkeenah 13:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC) P.S. Speaking of not knowing what the hell someone is talking about, what the hell does IIRC stand for?

If I remember correctly, the answer is listed here: List_of_internet_slang#I

The incident as it is described in the article still doesn't meet verifiability standards. Her statement is vague enough that if you say she was painting a "mental picture", you ought to inform readers what that picture is, which leads to the problem: how do you know what she meant? And can you verify it?

Jesus H. Christ! Do you want I should draw you a picture? Only an idiot would fail to understand what she meant. Wahkeenah 14:50, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Only an idiot would fail to understand Wikipedia policies. Or a 14 year-old. I suspect you are both.

OK, smart guy, in order to comply with "Wikipedia policies", then you need to cite every freakin' line in that writeup. Get started! Now! Move it! Wahkeenah 02:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Edit needs to be made

In the sentence "Anderson has also had relationships with Scott Baio, "Baywatch" co-star David Charvet, and musician Bret Michaels of the band Poison" the word Baywatch should be in italics since it's the name of a television series per the MoS. Could some admin fix that? thanks, Dismas 23:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

While the admin is at it, he should add the es: interwiki, es:Pamela Anderson (must suck to be an admin these days :P)--Orgullomoore 20:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Go ahead and edit, I just unprotected. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 17:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Yee-hah! Let the vandalism resume! Poor Pamela has been targeted more often than Dennis Miller. However, most of those vandals are boobs. Wahkeenah 17:49, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

"A pornographic home video of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee was stolen from their home, and made a huge stir on the Internet. Anderson sued an Internet company that was distributing the video, and some media sources reported that she settled the case for $10 million."

Can anyone add the date when this happened?

Well, frames from the stolen video were published in Penthouse magazine's March 1998 issue, if that helps any. Wahkeenah 08:00, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and how in the world can THOSE be a mere 36 inches in measurement? c'mon, is this accurate?? 70.108.99.51 21:32, 4 December 2005

That was probably the pre-enhanced version. Wahkeenah 21:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Pam Anderson, Beauty, and Chickens

Pam Anderson first came to the attention of many people as the Tool Time Girl on the popular television series Home Improvement. Pam Anderson has been featured on the cover of Playboy more times than any other Playboy Playmate. Pam Anderson married the band Motley Crue, this was proven when her home sex videos were stolen and shown on the Internet. It is reported that in her bedroom Pam Anderson had a pole used by strippers, so they can show off their sexual abilities in different positions. Pam Anderson did the short lived cartoon series Stripperella (the story of a secret agent stripper with sexual villains). Pam Anderson belongs to the Valley of the Dolls (women in the entertainment industry who make a living by beauty and dress up despite age or deformity, and there is a 1980s film of the same name). Pam Anderson proved she belongs in the beauty only category of the entertainment industry by supporting "chickens" as her PETA (pet environmental people) project. That is right, the stupid birds grandma and grandpa grew before refrigeration became popular that were so dumb they could drown when it rained, and defecated everywhere as a kept animal--grandma spent many hours cleaning those chicken coops, so the animals would not pass on by their own diseases to put food on the table. Chickens civil rights are important to Pam Anderson (I believed she lost a bet, but then she did that public television announcement for chickens).

Pam Anderson is one of those Hollywood women who need the stereotypical Hollywood party: lots of nakedness, sex, and weirdness just like some of the 1970s films trying to be controversial about Hollywood.

Pam Anderson: Playmate, VIP girl, Baywatch Girl, Motley Crue popular cheerleader, and Chicken supporter. Pam Anderson does possess physical beauty, but you decide.

Centennial Baby?

How could she possibly be the first baby born in Canada on Centennial Day if she was born at 8 minutes past midnight Pacific Standard Time?

Square Corner Revealed

Took me a while to figure it out. Then I realized that, quite literally, one must think outside the box. I don't just mean that as a double entendre - it has three distinct meanings, and when you know all three, you will have the answer. God I'm so fucking smart. I AM SO FUCKING SMART. 70.177.90.238 22:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I admit it, I have no idea what she's talking about. Can someone explain, or edit the article so it explains? -- nae'blis _(talk) 20:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Masturbation. Go ahead and spell it out in the article if you want. Wahkeenah 00:50, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Sing what?

Messy Thinking 22:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

What, exactly, has she sung?

re External links

Wikipedia is not a web directory. We do not accept links to ad sites. adnghiem501 (talk) 02:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

"Animal-rights activist"

Maybe she is an insincere celebrity "activist", but the woman did receive PETA's major honor. Why shouldn't we have the category, and whatever evidence of her insincerity in fur activism etc.--Pharos 22:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

She's not an activist of any kind. Please find a source saying she is an "animal rights activist". SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Pamela Anderson : ardente avocate des animaux. This article is from the French chapter of PETA.--Pharos 22:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't say activist. I'm curious to know why you're doing this. You must know she's not an animal-rights activist, especially if you're having to go to the non-English speaking press to find a source. If she were, you'd find sources galore in American newspapers. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

An advocate does not an activist make. Nor does a spokesperson, necessarily. Postdlf 23:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

According to the Wikipedia article on activism, it can take a wide range of forms, from writing letters to newspapers or politicians, simply shopping ethically, rallies and street marches, direct action, or even guerrilla tactics. There is no fixed definition of activism and noone can deny that PA's efforts have had a good effect on at least some people's attitudes which is the main purpose of activism. Arniep 23:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Please don't asume I "know she's not an animal-rights activist". The headline is "Pamela Anderson: an ardent advocate for animals" and the first line starts "Everywhere animals are in danger, they can count on Pamela Anderson...". I don't see how that is not saying she is an animal-rights activist. I chose the link just because it is rather high praise of her from a major animal rights organization, and gives a general history of her involvement as well. I realize there'a a major difference between on-the-ground activists and "celebrity activists", and some "celebrity activists" may be more interested in publicity than any genuine concern, but their status as such is significant if it is recognized by major advocacy groups. There are of course many sources in American media (which of course is rather celebrity-centric) calling her an activist, such as CNN and the AP.--Pharos 00:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

In case people are unaware of this SlimVirgin used as basis for removing the cat (from my talk page) that PA had:

once appeared in an ad about fur, but who has worn and advertised fur since then.

and

the incident is well known and the animal-rights movement is disgusted by her.

I asked her to provide evidence for this but she said she doesn't have the source to hand. Arniep 00:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Pamela Anderson submitted to a Comedy Central Roast to benefit PETA [1]

was this written by a 5y/o?

1. This article states right out of the blue that Pamela had a miscarriage. Do people just have those on rainy days? WHY did she have a miscarriage and most importantly, WITH WHO?? In this article it's like "one day she took her dog for a walk, had a miscaariage and then watered her plants." This needs at least a whole paragraph of explanantion.

2. This article suddenly starts refering to "Lee". Once again, out of the blue... my psychic powers aren't working today. Now personally, I know who Tommy Lee is, but shouldn't someone mention a few words of his background before just saying "she got Hepititis from Lee. Period."? There is no mention before this of who "lee" is or how they came to be together.