Talk:Civil service

what is civil service?and its history

Other meanings

Civil sevice also means a form of "legal" conscientious objection. It should be noted carefully that e.g. the finnish "siviilipalvelus", the swedish "civiltjänst" and german "civildienst" all - and quite literally - mean, or can be translated to "civil service". Should there be a disambiguator for this entry? This has caused a lot of confusion when talking to foreigners ;) Ludvikengelbrekt 15:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Good suggestion. I've added a new section to cover this. StuRat 15:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge

No merge. Public sector and civil service are not the same thing. Workers in the NHS in the UK for instance are public sector workers but not civil servants. The UK even has a further division in this called Crown servants which are technically separate again from public and civil. MLA 06:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

No merge. as above - but note all crown servants are civil servants but maye not vice versa as parts of the civil service are either privatised or given agency status. Public sector includes much more than Civil service Johnmarkh 02:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, agreed completely.

James F. (talk) 18:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Civil and Civilian services are one and the same. Public includes non-civilian or alien peoples.

UK US

1. QUANGO in the lead is not applicable to the US. Since the article has sections on both, I made an attempt at a fix.
2. I've lowercased the US civil service where appropriate. It is only capitalized in titles of legislative acts. DGG 05:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Established Civil Servant

The term Established Civil Servant is used to limit who can sign passports in the UK and possibly other countries. Goggle sent me to this page. Can anyone define what is an Established Civil Servant. (The EU page if found attempts but does not do the job.)

Ireland seems to define established as pensionable. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/act/pub/0046/sec0001.html

Illustration

The illustration of the Virgin Mary registering is linked as being during the Byzantine Empire, but that empire didn't arise until hundreds of years later. StuRat 14:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I asked about this on the Humanities Ref Desk today and the answer seems to be that, although the mosaic was made during the Byzantine Empire, the period shown was under the Roman Empire. I've therefore changed the caption. StuRat 15:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

…It has come to my decision that a taxpayer is a legal accommodation of the Agency of Government Affairs. And through the protection of the Individual right to bear access to the course, then a civil right has become a civil servant. Noting that a servant may represent something or another, if one was to form a title upon an advertisement for hire this service of recommendation towards the civil liberties of another, then to have a right to bear such civil service and perhaps in ordinance with authority would be a defence.David George DeLancey (talk) 11:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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Distinct meanings

1. Professional employees of a government (and something about testing). 2. Non-military government employees.

Seems like these two have a large amount of overlap. The testing thing is also sometimes a feature, but it's a historical footnote for the US. The distinction between the two groups is not clear at all. Can the first group also include military hired based on qualifications? Does the first group exclude those who haven't been tested? SDY (talk) 22:01, 3 April 2010 (UTC)