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"Niazi is the one most respectabe tribe among pashtuns", give me a break, all ghilzais are notorious thieves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.91.64.94 (talk) 08:21, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Problem with lead
Why is the term "Niazi" (the subject of this article) not mentioned in the lead at all? Badagnani (talk) 02:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Language(s)
Removing the language(s) the Niazi speak doesn't seem to be a good idea. Badagnani (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Iqbalniazi (talk • contribs) 21:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC) which language? pashto? i speak pashto. we are niazi's from kohat. our whole village speaks pushto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.158.120.17 (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Verification and general accessiblity
History of Niazi Clan and Pathan's can be sourced from the following books:
The Pathans – 550 BC - AD 1957 by Sir Olaf Caroe, 1958, Macmillan Company ,Reprinted Oxford University Press, 2003
The Hisotry of the Great Mougouls, Pringle Kenndey
Gazetter of the Mianwali district 1915 by Sang-e-Meel Publications, Lahore, Pakistan
Tareekh-e-Niazi Qabail
Tareekh-e-Alvi Awan
Wichara Watan By Harish Chander Nakra, New Delhi, India --KhanAsfandeyar (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Notable Members
JohnCengiz77 (talk · contribs) removed a large chunk of content from the Notable People section in this article. I undid his revision as there are several Generals, Federal Ministers, and Senators listed that he removed. JohnCengiz77 then reverted my edit stating that "Niazi's with an article are listed, otherwise they aren't notable." This simply isn't how WP works. Not having an article doesn't imply that a subject is not notable just like having an article doesn't imply notability. I believe this to be the basic concept of WP:OTHERSTUFF. John, do you have any counter argument? OlYellerTalktome 15:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- The edits made by 86.23.59.8 (talk · contribs) are very poorly written, unwikified, and mostly lack notability. Every now and again, a user will make these unhelpful edits, also tribal boasting too. If someone has no coverage on any wikipedia article, they are not going to be included in a list of people sharing a name on wikipedia. John Cengiz talk 16:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've seen lots of tribal boasting but there seem to be some subjects in this list with a claim of notability (federal Ministers, senators, and possibly Generals depending on their military structure). I'm not saying that the whole list is full of notable people but at least a portion of them need examined. As for not having coverage on WP, again, that doesn't mean anything. Per WP:NOTESAL, not everyone in lists of notable people have to have an article. I'd give List of Ohio State University people as an example but I'm not sure that listing other pages really means anything per WP:OTHERSTUFF. While the edits may not be formatted to your liking (I agree, they're not pretty), that doesn't mean they should be deleted. This project isn't finished and poorly formatted information shouldn't be removed for that reason alone.
- Here's my proposal, because I'm not willing to go through the list one by one to determine notability, because I don't think it's fair to require you to, and to discourage anons from boasting, how about we move the list to the talk page for someone to go over in the future. OlYellerTalktome 16:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good idea. John Cengiz talk 17:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Unwikified list with many, probable non-notables
Notable people - Niazi's have produced some of the most famous people of both Pakistan and Afghanistan.
- - Prominent Niazis in Afghanistan
- - Ghulam Mohammed Niazi,(founder of Jamiat-e-Islami Afghanistan)
- Mullah Manon Niazi, Governor of Mazar-e-Sharif.
- Nasima Niazi, Helmand Province Representative in the lower house of parliament
- - Politicians
- - Amir Abdullah Khan Rokhri/Niazi, Samand Khel(Former Senator, Former MNA and Former MLA)
- Sher Afgan Niazi watta Khel
- Gul Hameed Khan Rokhri/Niazi, Samand Khel, (Former Punjab Minister; Former MNA & MPA; Former Zila Council Chairman)
- Maqbool Ahmed Khan Niazi, Zaman Khel (Former Federal Minister & MNA)
- Maulana Abdul Sattar Khan Niazi (Former Minister; Founder of Jamiat Ulema-i-Pakistan Niazi; Former MLA)
- Maulana Kausar Niazi, (Former Federal Minister; Former MNA Sialkot)
- Obaid Ullah Khan Niazi, Shadi Khel (Former MNA & Zila Nazim of Mianwali)
- Aamir Hayat Khan Niazi/Rokhri, Samand Khel, (MPA; Former MNA & MPA)
- Amanat Ullah Khan Niazi, of Shadikhel (Former MPA Mianwali)
- Abdur Razzaq Khan Niazi, Zaman Khel (Former MPA Khanewal)
- Muhammad Ikramullah Khan Niazi,Pai Khel (Former Minister for Forest,Tourism,Culture and Fishries)MPA
- Najeeb ullah Khan Niazi, Sherman Khel
- Tariq Abbas Khan Niazi, Taja Khel, (Former Advisor to Chief Minister of Sindh)
- Abdul Rehman Khan Niazi alias Babli Niazi (Former Punjab Minister)
- Saleem Ullah Khan Niazi Paikhel (Former MPA)
- Inam Ullah Khan Niazi Shermankhel (Former MPA)
- - Notable military personnels
- - Haibat Khan Niazi, Most Powerful General under Sher Shah Suri and was given title of Masnad-i-Ali and Azam Humayun
- Isa Khan Niazi (Afghan Amir) The Famous Niazi Chief and one of the Most Powerful Military Commander in times of King Babur And Sher Shah Suri.
- Lt. General Amir Abdullah Khan Niazi, Sitara-i-Jurat twice and Military Cross, British Army, known as Tiger Niazi(Commander of East Pakistan Army 1971)
- Admiral K R Niazi, (Chief of Naval Staff 1979)
- Lt. General Zarar Azim (Chairman Army Welfare Trust & Former Corps Commander Lahore)
- Maj Gen (R) Shireen Dil Khan Niazi (ex. IG Frontier Crops)
- Maj Gen (R) Inayat Ullah Khan Niazi, Jhangikhel (sitara-i-Imtiaz) (Chairman Federal Land Commission, ex DG F.I.A & Deputy DG N.A.B)
- Maj Gen (R) Rafiullah Khan Niazi,Taja Khel (former Intelligence Bureau Chief)
- Maj Gen (R) Hidayat Ullah Khan Niazi, (sitara-i-Jurat)(ex. Chairman NHA, ex. chief DHA Karachi)
- Brig (R) Pervaiz Hassan Khan Niazi (Sitara-i-Imtiaz), (Sitara-Jurat) Comdt Armed Forces Institute of Rehabilitation Medicine Rawalpindi
- Brig (R) Ghulam Akbar Khan Niazi (Sitara-i-Imtiaz Military) (Pride of Performance)
- Brig (R) Aman Ullah Khan Niazi (Log Commander Multan) (Chairman Punjab Seed Corporation Punjab)
- Brig (R) Asmat Ullah Khan Niazi, Jhangikhel (Sitara-i-Imtiaz) (MD Askari Cement, Vice President Pakistan Cement Association)
- Col. (R) Abdul Rab Khan Niazi, (Sitara-Jurat)