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But we should consider re-uploading it under the name of [[:File:Flag of Libya (2011).svg]], and eventually even as [[:File:Flag of Libya.svg]] (perhaps the latter only after the Libyans have voted on a new constitution defining the flag). --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 10:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
But we should consider re-uploading it under the name of [[:File:Flag of Libya (2011).svg]], and eventually even as [[:File:Flag of Libya.svg]] (perhaps the latter only after the Libyans have voted on a new constitution defining the flag). --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 10:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
:I agree with that proposal.--[[User:R-41|R-41]] ([[User talk:R-41|talk]]) 22:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
:I agree with that proposal.--[[User:R-41|R-41]] ([[User talk:R-41|talk]]) 22:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

==Flag Corrections==
I've made some changes to the flag which I believe are correct, but which need discussion.

First thing's first, I uploaded the new flag, and when one clicks on it it opens, but the thumbnail doesn't show up, because the svg does not seem to have nominal pixel dimensions.

Secondly, the colours. In the constitution segment, which I have at home in Arabic, the red is described as (الأحمر من لون علامات الاشارة) which I believe directly translates as "red from the colour of traffic signs". In the translation in the file description, it has been translated as "sign red". The colour I used is signal red, as I couldn't find 'sign red' except on one website. There are two types of singal red. The first is closer to maroon, which has a hex value of #9E3C3C, and the other is the brighter of the two which I have used #D83010 (R216 G48 B16) [http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/D83010/ This is the source I used]. The black and white are easy enough. The green is described as (الأخضر الدائم) which is correctly translated as permanent green. The colour I have used is #25442F (R37 G68 B47) [http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/25442F/ Source].

As for the star and crescent, this is how I have understood the following passage:

"The distance between the tips of the crescent shall equal that between the uppermost and lowermost point of the star measured along a perpendicular forming the hoistward sides of these two points. The perpendicular shall form a tangent to the outside circumference of the crescent at a point equidistant from the top and bottom of the flag."

I have drawn it such that the only vertical side of the star is a tangent to a circle I extended from the outside circumference of the crescent. A picture I found of the flag being raised in an ambassadors house seems to coincide with my understanding of the passage [http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/02/25/68664-demonstrators-cheer-as-they-raise-a-kingdom-of-libya-flag-at-the-resid.jpg Source]. As for the Libyan flag now flying in the UN, it seems to suggest something else [http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/09/21/1226142/345656-110921-libya-flag.jpg ] and looks like the previous versions uploaded on Wikipedia. Could somebody explain if/why I have understood it incorrectly?

Please discuss. [[User:Jaw101ie|Jaw101ie]] ([[User talk:Jaw101ie|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

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Flag

This description has to be updated since the opposition, which now holds a large part of Libya and is being recognized globally, has restored this flag in 2011, so this is now the globally recognized flag of Libya again.

Maybe star should be within the crescent.

As I understand it the star-and-crescent logo relates to a miraculous sighting of a star WITHIN the area occluded by the crescent moon (as one might see if a fresh meteor strike had created an incandescent crater,) As such the star should be WITHIN the circle of the moon's crescent,

News footage of the Lybian revolt last night (sorry, no reference) showed the flag a group of rebels was flying has that geometry. And I suspect that the old flag had the same characteristic.

Later correction: I find elsewhere in Wikipedia a quotation from the Lybian constitution specifying that the vertical line between the upper and lower points on the star should be tangent to the outer circumference of the crescent. So the flag image is correct - at least for the country's old flag - and (at least) the last part of my previous statement is incorrect. Michae lMcClary (talk) 04:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This image should probably be renamed shortly

With the apparent success of the National Transitional Council against Gaddafi's regime, this flag will probably become the modern flag of Libya when the UN recognizes it as the legitimate government of Libya. Gaddafi's government is already a pariah state, has been militarily defeated, and has been kicked out of UN human rights organizations, his regime will probably be removed from the UN shortly.--R-41 (talk) 22:37, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the flag is still the flag of the kingdom of 1951-1969, too. Hence this image should stay as it is. But we should consider re-uploading it under the name of File:Flag of Libya (2011).svg, and eventually even as File:Flag of Libya.svg (perhaps the latter only after the Libyans have voted on a new constitution defining the flag). --dab (𒁳) 10:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that proposal.--R-41 (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flag Corrections

I've made some changes to the flag which I believe are correct, but which need discussion.

First thing's first, I uploaded the new flag, and when one clicks on it it opens, but the thumbnail doesn't show up, because the svg does not seem to have nominal pixel dimensions.

Secondly, the colours. In the constitution segment, which I have at home in Arabic, the red is described as (الأحمر من لون علامات الاشارة) which I believe directly translates as "red from the colour of traffic signs". In the translation in the file description, it has been translated as "sign red". The colour I used is signal red, as I couldn't find 'sign red' except on one website. There are two types of singal red. The first is closer to maroon, which has a hex value of #9E3C3C, and the other is the brighter of the two which I have used #D83010 (R216 G48 B16) This is the source I used. The black and white are easy enough. The green is described as (الأخضر الدائم) which is correctly translated as permanent green. The colour I have used is #25442F (R37 G68 B47) Source.

As for the star and crescent, this is how I have understood the following passage:

"The distance between the tips of the crescent shall equal that between the uppermost and lowermost point of the star measured along a perpendicular forming the hoistward sides of these two points. The perpendicular shall form a tangent to the outside circumference of the crescent at a point equidistant from the top and bottom of the flag."

I have drawn it such that the only vertical side of the star is a tangent to a circle I extended from the outside circumference of the crescent. A picture I found of the flag being raised in an ambassadors house seems to coincide with my understanding of the passage Source. As for the Libyan flag now flying in the UN, it seems to suggest something else [1] and looks like the previous versions uploaded on Wikipedia. Could somebody explain if/why I have understood it incorrectly?

Please discuss. Jaw101ie (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]