Talk:PlayStation 3

Sales reached 50 million

According to Gamasutra--Karim666 (talk) 09:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

There's a difference between shipped and sold. - X201 (talk) 10:55, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes i believe this to be correct as i have another link with this info http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a314727/playstation-3-sales-top-50m-worldwide.html

there also seems to be 8 million units of ps move shipped, but then again these maybe 2 wrong info links so if someone else could take a look at these links and decide whether they are correct or incorrect then perhaps edit the article to reflect the results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanovar (talk • contribs) 07:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Err I'm happy the PS3 is selling so well but last I checked, June (even in leap years) has 30 days :), and as per the article, total sales are: "51.8 million as of June 31, 2011" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.123.163 (talk) 01:54, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Inaccurate description

In the last paragraph under the section Homebrew>Custom Firmware (CFW), it says credit card information has been stolen as a result of the PSN breach. I think Sony has stressed on several occassions that there is no evidence that credit card information has been stolen. 122.57.203.159 (talk) 11:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't think they ever said there was no evidence. Now they've confirmed exact numbers [1]. Spacexplosion^[talk] 15:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

They most certainly have said there is no evidence (and still do - see, for example Complimentary Offering and "Welcome Back" Appreciation Programme under PlayStation Network Restoration Update). That link you posted is about a different (but related) Sony Online Entertainment (aka SOE, Sony's MMO arm) attack, not the PlayStation Network (PSN)/Qriocity attack/outage. While both are owned by Sony, they are not the same thing and are completely independent. Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ ^(talk) 15:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I had read this source saying, "SOE [...] confirms that its user data was stolen as part of the original intrusion -- not a second attack." Apparently it's more ambiguous than I thought because I can't find anyone else saying that. I'd say "no evidence that they've been taken" at the same time that there is no way to tell is just CYA PR-speak, but that's just my opinion. Spacexplosion^[talk] 18:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Bad journalism in my opinion. At the very top of the press release it states "hackers may have stolen" - X201 (talk) 18:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

@Spacexplosion: Again, SOE ≠ PSN/Qriocity/SCEI. As for being "CYA PR-speak", since there is no evidence (if there is, they would be breaking the law by saying so, so I'm going to assume they aren't telling bare-faced lies) it would be bad for them to not say there is no evidence (they would end up being inundated with questions about the data that they likely can't handle at the moment, and their stock would probably take even more of a hit than it has), and to say "it hasn't happened" would be just as bad, as it may be false. It's a kinda "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation.

@X201/Spacexplosion: Yeah, the SOE attack may have resulted in credit/debit card data from 2007 (most of which is likely now useless as the cards would have expired) and direct debit info being compromised.^[2] The journalism surrounding these attacks hasn't been great on the whole. Again though, SOE ≠ PSN/Qriocity/SCEI, and does not relate directly to it (both are owned by Sony, and there are SOE games on PS3, but other than that, they are separate).

Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ ^(talk) 19:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Software version needs updating

Playstation 3 is now on software version 3.70, released August 10, 2011. The page should be updated to reflect this.

Sources: Wikipedia Sony — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmneoblade (talk • contribs) 18:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Chimpanzee ^{Us | Ta | Co} 23:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Leap Year Bug

Really, is there any need for something as insiginificant as this? Plenty of other consumer items with the same RTC had the same problem, (for example the iPhone), none of their Wikipedia pages bother to list it. It just adds to the clutter of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakeskincowboy (talk • contribs) 12:19, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

If it were simply giving the wrong date I would agree, however it says "The error code displayed was typically 8001050F and affected users were unable to sign in, play games, use dynamic themes and view/sync trophies" - if it "breaks" the console then it's a serious bug.. It's possible that the section could be better written (more concise, more encyclopedic)Imgaril (talk) 12:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Audio output

All PlayStation 3 consoles can play DSD discs which are SACD's mastered on DVD discs. Many sites distributing these discs say that you can get the 2.8224MHz audio sample rate from the analog audio output on the MULTI AV port ONLY, and other outputs will downsample it. Maybe under audio specifications the 2.8224MHz sample rate should be mentioned, as well as adding 'only on AV MULTI out'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.171.168 (talk) 11:08, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Firstly this needs referencing. Secondly the "AV Multi Out" only has analogue outputs as far as I know - so it will not be in digital form..

Thirdly, according to HDMI#Audio.2Fvideo - it can support 1 bit SACD audio.? Is this true for PS3

Also I think the conversion will be from 1 bit 2.8224 MHz to multibit/lower freqency - that's not really "downsampling" - I think it's called transcoding .. slightly subjective topic.

Also the bit rate is a feature of SACD - it should be (and is) mentioned at Super Audio CD - there is already a link to that, so that base is covered.Imgaril (talk) 11:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Yellow light of death

Yellow light of death -Having removed the "How to fix the YLOD" content and other unencyclopedic material from the article diff I notice that there is little point for the article to exist - since everything is already in the main article at PlayStation_3#Yellow_light_of_death.

I would convert the page to a redirect, but first I should check if anyone feels there is more to say, and a separate article be kept etc. I'll wait a bit and if there are no objections, merge.Imgaril (talk) 21:23, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Some of the bits within "Repairs, replacements and refunds" may still be notable (but would have to be rewritten, as before being removed were certainly in violation of WP:NOTHOWTO). Other than that, I see no reason why it needs it's own article. It's not like there's much to say on it really, and TBH the only reason it has it's own article is probably as some sort of response to the Xbox 360 technical problems article. Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 21:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Sony is attempting to bury the Yellow Light of Death because they deny the fault exists. There are many articles and independent sources to suggest the problem is massive and worth its own page with accurate information about the fault. Editing to remove anything that Sony does not like does not reflect the subject accurately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.40.34 (talk) 10:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

The only report I currently have access to says that 50% of all PS3 failures are due to disc read errors. The report doesn't mention the YLOD http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/xbox360-ps3-wii-reliability-08-2009/ but it can be inferred that the maximum percentage of consoles failing from YLOD would be 6-22% (or even less) depending on what failure mode the error is categorised under. eg see the report page 9 - "power (unable to turn on or stay on)" is ~6%, I would assume this would included the YLOD error, it might be categorised in "other" which has ~16% of failures. The report appears to be dated late 2009.

It's possible the error is related to early models, or a particular model - if this can be ascertained reliably that would be worth adding.

We need verifyiable facts. If you can provide more reliable sources of information then that can be added. Given the data in the square trade report it looks like the entire topic has been skeweed by the watchdog report though.Imgaril (talk) 10:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I've changed the page to a redirect - there was no extra info in the redirect.Imgaril (talk) 14:18, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

MOVE.ME

Anyone got any thing on the MOVE.ME applacation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.86.171 (talk) 18:17, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Tidy

"OtherOS support" should be linked to properly, and the content in this article abstracted and most moved to the main page. Done diff - I've left a note on the OtherOS page.

Also PlayStation_3#Video_services contains too main short sections, and doesn't meet WP:MOS. It needs re-working. Done diff

If nobody else jumps at it I will do this later.Imgaril (talk) 02:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Also used the link given above (at top of page) in diff, so I removed it [3] - the link also mentions (looking forward) the possibility of Sony reducing cost by removing the backwards compatability functionality quote " One candidate for elimination in a future revision of the PS3, says iSuppli's Rassweiler, is a $27 Toshiba graphics chip designed to facilitate compatibility with older games from the PS2. "I've heard that Sony wants to put in some kind of software-emulator technology in the future, and so someday Sony could get rid of that chip." " - this eventually sort of happened - but I don't see how to integrate it into the article usefully.Imgaril (talk) 02:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Also I think a PS3 specific navbox is necessary - the Template:PlayStation does link to half the article, and some of the sub-pages are several links deep.Imgaril (talk) 03:35, 4 October 2011 (UTC) So there was one Template:PlayStation 3 - just hadn't been placed on the pages 87.102.42.171 (talk) 16:14, 6 October 2011 (UTC)