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A news item involving A Separation was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 20 February 2011.

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Plot

The last line of the plot makes no sense. "Razieh is found to not be guilty of the incident..." There is no previous mention of her being charged. It earlier refers only to Razieh's husband and Nader being charged. Tiddy (talk) 03:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen the film? I added the plot section, but I only based it on the one on German Wikipedia so I'm just as confused. Would be appreciated if someone who actually has seen the movie could go through the plot and adjust it. Right now there are lots of details and emphasis that I'm not entirely comfortable with. Smetanahue (talk) 03:57, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smet ! You'll have to excuse my imput, this is my first login on Wikipedia (a Wikivirgin, if you will). I agree with Tiddy that the last paragraph of the plot doesn't read rationally. While I appreciate your submission, may I make the suggestion that you just temporarily remove that part until you or someone else can re-add it more comprehensibly ? Roxannek (talk) 03:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks both Smet & Roxannek. I haven't seen the film either but was interested in trying to understand the plot. Tiddy (talk) 05:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The German plot has now been updated and become more clear, and I've updated the English according to that. Still not completely clear about the different charges, and the ending is still confusing, but should be better. Smetanahue (talk) 05:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the plot summary. I have not seen the movie, but if the summary is based on the German version, then it contained a major mistranslation. In the previous version, it was stated "Hodjat could either face a prison sentence" which means that Hodjat could go to prison. However, this does not make sense, as it was Nader who (supposedly) committed the crime. The German version also states that it was Nader who faces a prison sentence. The new version is now in line with the German version. --Ruebezahl (talk) 12:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sorry about that miss. Hopefully the section will keep getting better as more people get to watch the move. Smetanahue (talk) 13:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb Top 250

Although, Nader and Simin, A Separation is the first Iranian film to appear in the IMDb Top 250, it will be difficult to find a citation without the cooperation of the IMDb staff, since original research is prohibited. This film is also the first and only 2011 film in the IMDb Top 250. --Dan Dassow (talk) 19:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There has long been a broad consensus at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film to not include scores or rankings from IMDb in film articles. One reason is that there is not encyclopedic value in such info, and one even bigger is that the info is ephemeral and easy to manipulate. I will remove it from the article. Smetanahue (talk) 20:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is actually verifiable through Top 250 Informer. Lhw1 (talk) 01:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 Although, ''Nader and Simin, A Separation'' is the first Iranian film to appear in the IMDb Top 250, it will be difficult to find a citation without the cooperation of the IMDb staff, since original research is prohibited. This film is also the first and only 2011 film in the [http://www.imdb.com/chart/top IMDb Top 250]. --[[User:Dan Dassow|Dan Dassow]] ([[User talk:Dan Dassow|talk]]) 19:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 :There has long been a broad consensus at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Film]] to not include scores or rankings from IMDb in film articles. One reason is that there is not encyclopedic value in such info, and one even bigger is that the info is ephemeral and easy to manipulate. I will remove it from the article. [[User:Smetanahue|Smetanahue]] ([[User talk:Smetanahue|talk]]) 20:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
+::This is actually verifiable through [http://top250.info/stats/?15|IMDb Top 250 Informer]. [[User:Lhw1|Lhw1]] ([[User talk:Lhw1|talk]]) 01:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)