User talk:Bobzchemist

I reserve the right to delete anything left on this page, particularly if I find it offensive. Bobzchemist 22:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

We're so glad you're here! -- Perfecto 04:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Cosmetics

Hi Bobzchemist, and thank you very much for your comments and your offer of help, which I'd definitely much appreciate!

I've replied in more detail on my own user talk page. If you'd like to do something now, I would certainly encourage you to set up a "Cosmetic ingredients" (or similar) page linking off the Cosmetics page, and perhaps set out some sections it might cover. There's some information on that page which could be moved straight over.

Thanks again, and hope to see you around! -- TinaSparkle 20:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Parkinson's Disease

Can you please provide a third opinion on the Parkinson's Disease talk page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Parkinson%27s_disease regarding Seborrheic dermatitis at the bottom of that page.

Seborrheic dermatitis was claimed on the Parkinson's Disease article to be a symptom of Parkinson's Disease. However, Seborrheic dermatitis is an entirely separate medical disorder that has nothing to do with Parkinson's Disease. I consequently deleted it from the article.

JFW | T@lk has prevented this deletion. It is common ground that there is no research data which shows that Seborrheic dermatitis is a symptom of Parkinson's Disease. None exists and so JFW | T@lk has been unable to provide any.

Despite there being no evidence proving that Seborrheic dermatitis is a symptom of Parkinson's Disease JFW | T@lk has claimed that it has not been disproven. Surely the onus is on the person wanting to make scientific claims to prove them. Otherwise somebody could claim that the Pope is an alien, and retain it in the article until somebody disproves it !

JFW | T@lk is now resoprting to personal attacks, which I thought was in breach of Wikipedia guidelines. Personal attacks usually means an end has come to reasoned and objective discussion, which is why I have requested your Third Opinion.

According to the edit history of the Parkinson's Disease article, JFW | T@lk has for a long time been preventing and reverting all but the most trivial amendments to the Parkinson's Disease article. The article has consequently stagnated with nothing ever really changing. What can be done when somebody attempts to persistently impose a stranglehold on an article like this ?

--David Wittgenstein 14:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The parkinson disease article has been disrupted for a long time by the banned User:General Tojo and sockpuppets (see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of General Tojo). New user accounts only editing this article, acting against discussion/consensus or from the very start displaying detained knowledge of wikipolicy to troll have often proved to be further sockpuppets of GT - of course not all such new user accounts and WP:AGF requires editors who watch this article against GT's actions to err on the side of caution and not bite a newcommer :-)

That said, it is not JFW who makes the claim of a link between the conditions, but it is to be found in the literature (PMID 14678527 and PMID 12699724). Wikipedia of course does not follow Scientific point of view as it is not its role to arbitrate what may or may not be correct (i.e. WP is not a soapbox even to correct real-world mistakes). To the claims above - "has nothing to do with Parkinson's Disease": the two papers cited from peer reviewed journals make such an observation and even of possible underlying mechanism of linkage. To assert that there is no link therefore would require citing from other reliable sources, rather than one editor's disbelieve that there can be such a link. David Ruben ^Talk 14:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

PS Claiming that JFW owns that article in that "has for a long time been preventing and reverting all but the most trivial amendments" would seem to be a much clearer breach of WP:AGF David Ruben ^Talk 15:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, JFW has provided no scientific evidence at all in support of what he wants to include. All he has so far provided is an entirely unsubstantiated and unresearched claim that bears little resemblance to reality. He claims that it has to be disproven rather than proven because he has no evidence with which to prove it. Please now arbitrate in this matter because the argument is already going around in circles due to the side stepping of obvious weaknesses and criticisms. --David Wittgenstein 15:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely clear why David W. has asked you to mediate, but I will gladly cooperate with any attempt to do so. I have given quite extensive evidence in support for the consensus version, which quite unequivocally links SD with Parkinson's, even if the exact prevalence and mechanism are unknown. Having worked with other editors on the PD article I've developed somewhat of a sixth sense in recognising contributions from a user we all know as "General Tojo". Note that I never accused this editor of being a Tojo sockpuppet, it would be rather helpful if he felt able to distance himself from that disruptive sockpuppeteer that is under a community ban. JFW | T@lk 18:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

We have yet to see any evidence whatsoever proving that Seborrheic dermatitis is a symptom of Parkinson's Disease. There is none. There is merely an entirely unsubstantiated claim from citation authors who have never carried out any research at all concerning the question. Instead all I have seen instead is attempts to distract attention from this complete lack of evidence using personal attacks. --David Wittgenstein 18:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I fear this discussion is never-ending. Despite the consensus view reached on the talk page, David Wittgenstein continues to argue his point without providing further proof. I have invited him to carry out edits elsewhere on wikipedia and allow the situation to calm down but he has yet to do so and, in fact, uses inflammatory language about personal attacks which is neither helpful nor true. Apologies for defacing your talk page like this and look forward to hearing from you. All the best.Mmoneypenny 15:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia guidelines consensus is when everybody agrees or when nobody disagrees. So there is no consensus. Your description is very false and hypocritical. I have provided substantial opposing evidence and reasoning, but it has not been addressed. It has had to be repeated because those in support, unable to answer the obvious weaknesses and inconsistencies, have been evading the questions. They simply don't address them. Why have you not invited others to edit elsewhere on Wikipedia ? Why do you have double standards by trying to impose requirements only on me ? I have not used inflammatory language about personal attacks. However, you have by making what are plainly personal attacks against me. What do you claim I have written that is untrue ? You have made false allegations without substantiating any of it. Most of what you have written is itself false and misleading. Making unsubstantiated personal attacks about people behind their backs is precisely the sort of negative behaviour that detracts from what is being discussed. You have so far provided nothing at all of use to the discussion. I suggest that you folow your own advice by editing elsewhere instead of being wantonly abusive. --David Wittgenstein 18:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

What personal attacks have been made? JFW | T@lk 21:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bobzchemist, I think you may be interested to known that David Wittgenstein has been confirmed to be a sockpuppet of General Tojo, one of our more illustrious "problem editors" who is under a community ban. Please get in touch with me if you have any questions. I still do not know why he picked you as a mediator. JFW | T@lk 01:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Wolff was being tested to see if he could take part in reasonable and rational discussion. The answer was obviously no. A complete lack of facts, illogic, false claims - he tried them all. When he was frustrated by his stupidity becoming apparent he tries to get rid of the opposition. It's pathetic really. Thank you for all your assistance. --Hed Brnger 11:31, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Gaaah, talk about throwing someone into the deep end! (American reference to a particularly cruel method (probably apocryphal) for teaching someone how to swim by dropping the untrained non-swimmer into the deep end of a swimming pool with a sloping bottom)Let me start by saying that, after reading the article and all the commentary, I don't feel particularly competent to render a professional opinion on any part of this controversy. Strictly as a layman, on reviewing the cited links I found them credible enough to support the conclusion that Seborrheic dermatitis is a symptom of Parkinsons. As near as I can tell, Wikipedia is not a place where we are trying to make expert-level conclusions on the validity of published studies. I think it should be enough to cite the studies, mention the controversy, and move on.

Request for Third Opinion

template:History of Manchuria is suffering from extensive revert warring, and discussion is heading nowhere. A RfC was filed, but was only able to get one outside commentor[1]. Please provide a third opinion on whether template:History of Manchuria should be titled History of Manchuria[2] or History of Northeast China[3][4] to facilitate dispute resolution. Thank you. 08:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

special shampoo for float tanks

Forgive me for this direct approach. In the world of float tanks shampoos are necessary but also cause a problem since they contribute foaming agents, fats, and colours into the float tank. The worst symptom is a milky colloid which is very hard to filter away or otherwise remove. Since you are a cosmetic chemist, could you advise a formulation oar existing brand which is is simple grease removing shampoo with little or no foam and no added conditioner? We make float tanks and wish to find the perfect shampoo.Profstandwellback (talk) 19:36, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to the comment I left on your talk page, or comment here with a way to get in touch with you and I will be happy to discuss this further.Bobzchemist (talk) 01:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)