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* '''Keep.''' I am the author of this page. The source of this historical anecdote, and an account of its significance, is Peter Linebaugh's ''The London Hanged: Crime and Civil Society in the Eighteenth Century'' (2nd ed.). This was discussed and all but settled on my [[User_talk:Wikisux|talk page]]; as I wrote there, I wrote this article partly because I found the subject matter interesting and partly because I feel Wikipedia leans too much towards regurgitating trivia that's already available elsewhere on the Internet. Why would anyone assume this to be a joke/vandalism? Just because Google doesn't come up with anything for the search? ''[[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 06:59, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)'' |
* '''Keep.''' I am the author of this page. The source of this historical anecdote, and an account of its significance, is Peter Linebaugh's ''The London Hanged: Crime and Civil Society in the Eighteenth Century'' (2nd ed.). This was discussed and all but settled on my [[User_talk:Wikisux|talk page]]; as I wrote there, I wrote this article partly because I found the subject matter interesting and partly because I feel Wikipedia leans too much towards regurgitating trivia that's already available elsewhere on the Internet. Why would anyone assume this to be a joke/vandalism? Just because Google doesn't come up with anything for the search? ''[[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 06:59, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)'' |
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**It wasn't a question of a search. It was a question of not being consistent with ''Tyburn Tree'' nor any of the other social histories I've read. ''When'' did it happen? ''How many offenses'' had she committed? This is very important. "Code of the time and place" is impossible, because the time and place isn't given! My specialty is early 18th c., and I'm aware of Peter Linebaugh. Please make the entry complete so that it isn't just a salacious story but instead locates this woman in time. I stand by my statement that women were very rarely hung, prostitutes not hung, and minor thieves not hung. There have to be a lot more details in the story, and the way it's written it adds to the general impression that it was "consistent" with the 18th c. criminal practice. In fact, it's an exception. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 12:49, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
**It wasn't a question of a search. It was a question of not being consistent with ''Tyburn Tree'' nor any of the other social histories I've read. ''When'' did it happen? ''How many offenses'' had she committed? This is very important. "Code of the time and place" is impossible, because the time and place isn't given! My specialty is early 18th c., and I'm aware of Peter Linebaugh. Please make the entry complete so that it isn't just a salacious story but instead locates this woman in time. I stand by my statement that women were very rarely hung, prostitutes not hung, and minor thieves not hung. There have to be a lot more details in the story, and the way it's written it adds to the general impression that it was "consistent" with the 18th c. criminal practice. In fact, it's an exception. Also, if there is an existing discussion, could it be moved or copied to the Discussion page for the article? [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 12:49, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
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*Keep. -[[User:Gtrmp|Sean Curtin]] 07:35, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
*Keep. -[[User:Gtrmp|Sean Curtin]] 07:35, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
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*Keep. it seems entirely consistent with the criminal code of the time and place. [[User:Ping|ping]] 07:50, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
*Keep. it seems entirely consistent with the criminal code of the time and place. [[User:Ping|ping]] 07:50, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:51, 13 July 2004
From Cleanup: Constantia Jones seems to be a joke, or just vandalism - Andrevan
- It's really suspicious, but who can prove that such a thing didn't happen? It is very unlikely, given what I know of the trade and punishments. Minor thieves were not hung, and prostitutes certainly weren't. Women were rarely hung. It's very suspect. Geogre
- (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
- Keep. I am the author of this page. The source of this historical anecdote, and an account of its significance, is Peter Linebaugh's The London Hanged: Crime and Civil Society in the Eighteenth Century (2nd ed.). This was discussed and all but settled on my talk page; as I wrote there, I wrote this article partly because I found the subject matter interesting and partly because I feel Wikipedia leans too much towards regurgitating trivia that's already available elsewhere on the Internet. Why would anyone assume this to be a joke/vandalism? Just because Google doesn't come up with anything for the search? Wikisux 06:59, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- It wasn't a question of a search. It was a question of not being consistent with Tyburn Tree nor any of the other social histories I've read. When did it happen? How many offenses had she committed? This is very important. "Code of the time and place" is impossible, because the time and place isn't given! My specialty is early 18th c., and I'm aware of Peter Linebaugh. Please make the entry complete so that it isn't just a salacious story but instead locates this woman in time. I stand by my statement that women were very rarely hung, prostitutes not hung, and minor thieves not hung. There have to be a lot more details in the story, and the way it's written it adds to the general impression that it was "consistent" with the 18th c. criminal practice. In fact, it's an exception. Also, if there is an existing discussion, could it be moved or copied to the Discussion page for the article? Geogre 12:49, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. -Sean Curtin 07:35, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. it seems entirely consistent with the criminal code of the time and place. ping 07:50, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)