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This talk page contents prior to 1st October 2011 have been archived. Please feel free to start new discussions below. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 14:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Final warning

Hi, I see here you gave a final warning to an IP user for spamming. I've just reverted this edit which I believe qualifies as promotional. I'm wondering if you'd like to pursue whatever the correct course of action is as, frankly, I have no idea what is supposed to happen next once a final warning has been reached. Regards, Lord Vetinari 11:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies but I have been away for a couple of weeks - this IP appears to have stopped editing so that the issue appears to have been resolved - I will maintain an occasional watch just in case it returns. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 19:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and thanks for following up. BTW, for my own knowledge, can you please direct me to some useful WP:something page that describes the next course of action after a final warning. Thanks again. ClaretAsh (talk) 08:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The next stage is to file a manual report at Administrator intervention against vandalism which is reasonably quick and easy. Alternatively Huggle and, I suspect, Twinkle do the task automatically following a level 4 warning. Regards Velella ^{Velella Talk} 08:56, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. ClaretAsh (talk) 09:23, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment?

Would you mind commenting on a content issue in Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) here? Some of the article's content and its source is being questioned by another editor who has repeatedly removed or altered it without I believe justification. Dan56 (talk) 01:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies (see above). I regret this is outside my knowledge and hopefully is now resolved. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 19:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Periflex

Thanks for your interest in my work. Please have a look at the rewritten article about the Periflex camera. I hope it conforms to your kind suggestions. With respect, Jan von Erpecom 16:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Securitization

I amended a portion which was not sourced and which is actually dubious to (i) past tense and (ii) sourced to a company rather than a single person in this company. In fact, given the lack of references (even searching on the web), the correct course of action is to delete the whole paragraph, which I will do now. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.220.80 (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nita Ambani - Dhirubhai Ambani International School

Hi Velella,

In the Career Section of the article on Nita Ambani there was an revert from Nita Ambani to Kishore Ambani. I wanted to clarify that Nita Ambani was accurate information provided and I'm reverting it by providing a stronger citation. Kishore Ambani is in no way related to Dhirubhai Ambani International School.

Nita Ambani Proof

MuzzammilB (talk) 05:27, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My revert was from Kishore to Nita - which you have confirmed was correct - and thanks for the confirming reference. Regards Velella ^{Velella Talk} 12:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

North American College

Hello, I am a faculty member at North American College in Houston, TX. We are a new college offering 4-year Bachelor degrees in three disciplines: Business Administration, Computer Science and Education. Our website is www.northamerican.edu We are accredited by ACICS which is a recognized accrediting agency by the US Department of Education. The problem I am having is to create a page under the title: North American College as it redirects to Pontifical North American College. I tried to cancel the redirect but you did undo it. How can I resolve this? Am I supposed to create a page like NORTH AMERICAN COLLEGE (HOUSTON, TEXAS)? Which seems the only plausible way currently. Please advise. Thanks, Osman Nal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osmannal2 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed it up as North American College as a stub article but it needs to be referenced and expanded otherwise it may be proposed for deletion as not notable and unreferenced. Hope that this helps. Regards. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 22:03, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About the promotion of TRED

I believe the editions I did were constructive as real information with good sources were added . If this is not allowed, then what is supposed to be?? Otherwise, it's information, not promotion.--187.90.249.134 (talk) 22:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There was only one source provided which was itself a weak source and looked like a reproduction of a press release. The group has not produced anything at all and is only rumoured to to make a release in 2012. As such it is all unreferenced crystal ball gazing. If the group releases material and becomes notable , then is the time to add information. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 09:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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THANK YOU: Reservation in India page

Hey, Thanks for the edits on the Reservation in India page. I am working on the page for an assignment for one of my classes at Mills College so thanks for the edits you did in terms of organizing the article. I know you haven't done so but please do not delete anything we put up on the article and I would love for you to look over the edits we make over time and give us feedback on our talk pages. Thanks again! Kkhari29 (talk) 21:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please rest assured that I only delete material that appear to be wrong. In this case,as I understand that this is work in progress, I will hold back from any editing to allow you a free hand for the moment. Best of luck with the assignment!. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 23:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :) Kkhari29 (talk) 05:04, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute over Spirulina

Dear Velella - you edited a grammar mistake on a controversial thread a few hours ago. If you're interested there is a discussion going on to determine a new NPOV:

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Spirulina_(dietary_supplement)". Thank you. --Rdavout (talk) 17:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kappa Kappa Gamma

Hi! I'd like to ask about this edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kappa_Kappa_Gamma&diff=459173320&oldid=459173098

It seems that I'd only cleaned up the information, putting it in better place in that section whilst including all the same details, while you reverted my edit as "unsourced speculation". However, all of the information can be found readily in the references which are already included in the article's section, including a NYTimes article. I was only being bold with my edit, keeping the flow of the article clear (i.e. removing the word "alleged" from the first sentence which had appeared twice; putting his suicide more appropriately on the section's tail - since his death didn't really have to do with the sorority anyway...)

Perhaps we could come to consensus on an edit? Thanks. 38.109.88.218 (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for my revert was your change from "....Mr. Ivins may have been driven to suicide...." to "... who is alleged to have been driven to suicide by unfounded allegations ..."

Your edit introduces two separate allegations which raises the spectres of others who have made these allegations but for which no reference is made to indicate the identity of these persons. The original version was much more neutral and avoided these ambiguous allegations. Hope that that helps. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 19:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not quite right. The edit as I found it had the two separate allegations...reading, "...who is alleged to have been driven to suicide by unfounded allegations..." in the lede of the Bruce Ivins section. I thusly removed that from the section-lede and moved it to the bottom of that section to read "Mr. Ivins may have been driven to suicide by the accusations with regard to his involvement in the the attacks. Because he died before charges could be filed, no court case will be brought to fruition on this matter, nor on the matter of his involvement with KKG or other sororities." You then reversed my edit with the note "rvt unsourced speculation" and the Huggle tag.

All sources for the info I properly included can be found in the NY Times article which accompanies that section (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/science/10anthrax.html), as well as in sources 3 through 5 of the Bruce Ivins article. I'm not the most efficient formatting editor, but the facts are well sourced and I do believe my edit was strong. Perhaps you could assist? Thanks again. 38.109.88.218 (talk) 21:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Velella. I see you've continued editing over the past week, but haven't addressed my comments above. I'm going to assume you see my edits were valid as I described, and will re-include them to the Kappa Kappa Gamma article in the next day or so. Thanks again for your input. 38.109.88.218 (talk) 17:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both links 3 and 5 of the Bruce Irvins article are dead links and reference 4 provides no support. Nor do I see support in the reference that you have quoted. What we have is a release of anthrax, a scientist accused of its release, the suicide of the scientist - all fact but no ostensible proof that said scientist released the anthrax. So where is the source that says "...who is alleged to have been driven to suicide by unfounded allegations ...". I can't even see the word alleged. To be alleged, somebody has to allege something - there must be a capability of saying "alleged by xxxxxxx" We don't seem to have that xxxxx, do we ? 20:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

RIGHT! Which is WHY I removed the "alleged" from the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kappa_Kappa_Gamma&diff=459173098&oldid=455363382). It IS asserted in many places that Ivins acted in that attack, per http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080601400.html (and the NYTimes article), which is cited in the Kappa Kappa Gamma article already. But you UNDID my edit here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kappa_Kappa_Gamma&diff=459173320&oldid=459173098 , with a note of ""rvt unsourced speculation" and the Huggle tag. Perhaps we could do without the part of the edit about the motivation for his suicide, but there is ample citations for including that he was involved in the anthrax attacks. And, you can see, inclusion of ivins in this article has been re-hashed before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kappa_Kappa_Gamma/Archive_3 . Please advise. 38.109.88.218 (talk) 03:29, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Message Me

Instead of calling me a vandal you could have messaged me back. Dont hide from the fact that you dont know somthing so you choose to delete it. I have now restored that information and quoted sources. I hope thats better and now you should read up on the story and gain some insight and do your job properly. OK! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodman44 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have provided no reliable source whatsoever to justify what is potentially very damaging and probably libellous information. To support such an assertion like that you need a robust and reliable source and that certainly isn't YouTube. On a general note, notoriety affecting children would, in my view, require the strongest possible justification for inclusion and not just someone's vicarious enjoyment of the predicament of others. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 20:29, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regulation of the release of genetic modified organisms‎

I spent hours researching and writing an article, so I hope you understand why I might feel a little bit annoyed when someone comes along and changes it without offering a good reason. The order is important because each section is supposed to link to the next and changing the order changes the flow. And it is logical as I have explained on the talk page. Can you please read it an leave a response. AIRcorn (talk) 21:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree and have replied at article talk page. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 22:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::Hi Velella.  I see you've continued editing over the past week, but haven't addressed my comments above.  I'm going to assume you see my edits were valid as I described, and will re-include them to the [[Kappa Kappa Gamma]] article in the next day or so.  Thanks again for your input.  [[Special:Contributions/38.109.88.218|38.109.88.218]] ([[User talk:38.109.88.218|talk]]) 17:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 ::::Both links 3 and 5 of the Bruce Irvins article are dead links and reference 4 provides no support. Nor do I see support in the reference that you have quoted. What we have is a release of anthrax, a scientist accused of its release, the suicide of the scientist - all fact but no ostensible proof that said scientist released the anthrax. So where is the source that says "...''who is alleged to have been driven to suicide by unfounded allegations ...''". I can't even see the word ''alleged''. To be alleged, somebody has to allege something - there must be a capability of saying "alleged by xxxxxxx"  We don't seem to have that xxxxx, do we ? 20:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
+:::::RIGHT!  Which is WHY I removed the "alleged" from the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kappa_Kappa_Gamma&diff=459173098&oldid=455363382).  It IS asserted in many places that Ivins acted in that attack, per http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080601400.html (and the NYTimes article), which is cited in the [[Kappa Kappa Gamma]] article already.  But you UNDID my edit here:
+http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kappa_Kappa_Gamma&diff=459173320&oldid=459173098 , with a note of ''""rvt unsourced speculation" and the Huggle tag.''  Perhaps we could do without the part of the edit about the motivation for his suicide, but there is ample citations for including that he was involved in the anthrax attacks.  And, you can see, inclusion of ivins in this article has been re-hashed before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kappa_Kappa_Gamma/Archive_3 . Please advise.  [[Special:Contributions/38.109.88.218|38.109.88.218]] ([[User talk:38.109.88.218|talk]]) 03:29, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
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