Talk:NFL on Thanksgiving Day

General

I heard somewhere that the NFL has continued the Detroit and Dallas tradition because the idea of playing on Thanksgiving was originally very unpopular among the teams. Since Detroit and Dallas agreed to do it when it was unpopular, they have been able to keep the tradition even though now lots of other teams want to host the game. If anyone has some support for this, it would be a useful addition to the page. --TjoeC 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Standings Errors

Alot of glaring errors with the overall standings at the bottom of the page. Can someone help clean up? 70.156.99.18 06:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ties do not count as losses. The NFL lists them as either half a win and half a loss or excludes themRoastytoast 21:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

2006 NFL box

Since this is an article about an NFL subject from the '20s to the present (and future), does it make sense to have the "2006 NFL" box at the bottom of the page? -- Pawl 01:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Reason for Dallas and Detroit

Is there a reason why Dallas and Detroit are the regulars during this game? If there is, I think it would be useful to add that info to the article. Regards, -- Jeff3000 04:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The "Thanksgiving Classic" Name

When did the league start using the name "Thanksgiving Classic" for their Thanksgiving games? I do not recall them using it before the 1990s. Also, I do not recall the league ever using that name for the 2006 season; as the actual Image:ThanksgivingDETDALKC.JPG logo shows, it is just "Thanksgiving". Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

• Just for the info, in 2005, the logo showed "Thanksgiving Classics" (with an "s") Doctorindy 18:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Considering the 2006 and 2007 games did not use the "Thanksgiving Classics" monikor, and it appears that the NFL might have abandoned that name altogether, I suggest this article should be considered to be moved to "NFL on Thanksgiving". Doctorindy (talk) 19:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I see no use of it this year anywhere. The Lions- Titans is about as far from a classic as games can get. And I don't hold much hope for the Seahawks in Dallas later.--JJ was here (talk) 20:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Possible page name change

• Going into the 2009 games, again, there appears to be no mention of the term "Thanksgiving Classic(s)." That will mark the 4th year in a row the name has been abandoned. This page should be changed to a variant of NFL on Thanksgiving Day. Doctorindy (talk) 14:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

MVPs

I added a section introducing the annual MVP's for the networks. Although it started out as somewhart of a silly gimick, it actually is noted annually, and both CBS and FOX make a big deal about their respective awards. Listing them seems undoubtably logical. A few older years have to be looked up to fill in some of the blank lines. Doctorindy 16:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed section

I removed the future matchups because it is against WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The NFL has not stated who will play in the future. The NFL tradition is Cowboys and Lions, but it changed this year by having an extra team. Who is to say that there will be the same teams? What if the NFL decides that the Lions are too awful to play on Thanksgiving now? It is all speculation and doesn't need to be there.++aviper2k7++ 23:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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Possible 2009 NFL Thanksgiving Matchups

As much as Detroit fans like to see their Lions play on Turkey Day (Thanksgiving), I take up the side of the fans and the NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in stripping Detroit of its Thanksgiving game. Hardly anyone wants to see the Lions these days. If Detroit were replaced by another city for the first game annually, I would choose the Philadelphia Eagles. Philadelphia is an important city in American history, and the Eagles, much like the Cowboys, may get down for a couple years but then bounce back. On the other hand, the Lions will be a long time before even being respectable. Having said all these things, here are some possible matchups for the early game (12:30/1:00 ET)on Thanksgiving 2009.

1) Atlanta @ New England - Boston is another important city in American history, and the Patriots are the team of the 2000s, even if they just miss the playoffs in 2008. And Atlanta can prove that 2008 was no fluke.

2) Tampa Bay @ Miami - Florida battle, both teams should be in playoff contention in 2009.

3) New Orleans @ Philadelphia - I called it the "Catholic Bowl", since the cities in which the Saints and Eagles play are historically Roman Catholic. On the football side, Drew Brees gets to show his "gunslinger" arm against Donovan McNabb.

4) Minnesota @ Pittsburgh - "Big Bad Ben" Roethlisberger is as tough as the steel of the city he plays in. And Minnesota is always tough.

5) Philadelphia @ Chicago - If the early game is moved to 1:00 ET and 2008 standings support it, this early game treats the nation to one of the NFL's classic matchups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.62.209.152 (talk) 17:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Numerous issues with the "home team controversy" section

I'm no Lions fan, but that entire section is littered with mostly synthesized prose. Citation 4 apparently notes Detroit's futility, but looking at the actual link, the article only tells us their win-loss record, and makes no mention of the team's struggle since 2001. Citation 6 only tells us about the game, and nothing about "the chants [getting] louder." The paragraph about supporters and detractors is pretty much a battleground between pro-Lions editors and anti-Lions editors, with absolutely no sources to back up any of the claims, as shown by the numerous {{cn}} tags. In the last paragraph, someone clearly snuck in some anti-Lions bias by saying that if Goodell removed the Lions from Thanksgiving, it would be "agreeing with the fans." (Pro-Lions editors would probably say something like "ruining an American tradition", for example.) The remaining speculation in the rest of the paragraph regarding who the other Thanksgiving host should be is just that: speculation.

Of course, hardly anyone will take note of this, but for those who do, that's great. Pandacomics (talk) 21:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I took note of it and have resolved the issues in question. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Current schedule - how much blame really?

Notable appearance droughts section - how much of a factor is the current schedule really? It's been in process 8 years so far - which is the length of time it takes for every team to face every other team at home once. I mean it makes it sound like they would have played loads of times (particularly with San Diego and the 49ers issue) - when infact they have only been eligible for 2 games (or 4 for the AFC east) and makes it sound like the schedule has been in for rather longer than it has (it's only done one 8 year cycle). 212.20.248.35 (talk) 10:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

NFL Dodgers

I don't see them on the standing list for defunct teams. They played in multi games in 30sSmith03 (talk) 18:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

NFL Avoiding 11:30 A.M. Start Times for Games

Actually, even though the Dallas Cowboys never play the early game on Thanksgiving, there have been many NFL games played in the past with 11:30 A.M. local time starts. In the old days, when December Saturday regular season games and postseason games had 12:30 P.M. EST starts, a lot of those games would take place in Central Time Zone cities with 11:30 A.M. start times. Also, recent Pro Bowls have had 11:30 A.M. start times in Hawaii. Because the NFL never schedules games with 11 A.M. local start times, the cut-off seems to be at 11:30. Therefore, it's incorrect to state in the article that the NFL avoids start times before Noon. The NFL could theoretically schedule the Dallas Cowboys for the early game on Thanksgiving, but they choose not to because Detroit is in the Eastern Time Zone. I realize that I'm nitpicking about something minor, but I just wanted to bring this up.67.188.208.139 (talk) 06:24, 7 December 2011 (UTC)