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Given that the two articles seem to be, essentially, about the same group, I am proposing them for merger. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see [[Talk:Christian Conventions#Proposed merger]]. Thank you. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Given that the two articles seem to be, essentially, about the same group, I am proposing them for merger. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see [[Talk:Christian Conventions#Proposed merger]]. Thank you. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
: I tend to agree with this. Seeing the confusion re Kangaroo Island (discussion below) it really makes sense to keep them together unless they really needed to be split due to Wikipedia's article lenth policy. [[User:Donama|Donama]] ([[User talk:Donama|talk]]) 02:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


== Kangaroo Island ==
== Kangaroo Island ==

Revision as of 02:01, 18 December 2011

Edward Cooney info

Gwydion, can we move the Edward Cooney information to his page. That info says nothing about 'Cooneyites', per se. A couple of short facts about Cooney and a link to the Edward Cooney page will make this much better. I tried to add some things to the Cooney page already, but would you mind having a look at it.

By all means improve the Edward Cooney page. But I don't see why the information shouldn't be in two places, if it is relevant to both.--GwydionM (talk) 17:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article wrongly gives false evidence on my beliefs and as what others refer to as a'cooneyite', I am pointing out that we are a reserved group, not at all hostile as someone tried to say.In fact we get awful hassle from protestants in Ireland, who refer to us as ' dissenters' and refuse to acknowladge us as a genuine church.These protestants resent the fact because we do not tithe and have adult baptism and so on, that we have attracted other protestants.When people are editing this article please consider that the websites they cite as refernces are actuallly hate site set up by angry protestants.many of the stuff they say about us are not true, so please do not give us a bad name.we are a peaceful people,who just keep to ourselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.63.22 (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should take this person's views into consideration. The tone of the article is quite hostile, and it's true that the web sources cited are anti-. Further the source cited says nothing about 'Cooneyites' today. She's actually writing about group in Christian Conventions. Indeed, there is nothing on that page after 1928, which is when the Cooneyites as we know them today came to be. I am curious GwydionM as to what you actually do know about Cooneyites today, and what are your sources? The only comments from actual Cooneyites (I would guess) are quite at odds with what you've written. Slofstra (talk) 00:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marvelous idea to have this person's beliefs reflected in the article ... if that person would give them. If any member of the group would please outline your beliefs, I'm sure they would be delighted to add them. The difficulty seems to be getting past the rhetoric and getting any solid information as to doctrinal beliefs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.23.251 (talk) 19:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minor reorganization and addition

I have rearranged the article to flow in more chronological order without removing facts presented. I also added a citation which was requested to point to the relevant published material, and added some minor clarifications based on that and other sources (newspaper articles of the period). Hopefully, those clarifications will make it seem less hostile to the adherents of this group, since I don't see material which goes beyond that already published by Patricia Roberts (Mr. Cooney's niece).Astynax (talk) 11:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've also added a brief section on doctrine and practice, which contains a few basics.Astynax (talk) 21:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added a new reference for the doctrine and practice section.Astynax (talk) 21:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Supplied a reference for the last requested citation. I personally consider that this is about as much information which can be expected for this topic, given the current material published about them. Perhaps there will be more information forthcoming (I can hope). Astynax (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger with Christian Conventions

Given that the two articles seem to be, essentially, about the same group, I am proposing them for merger. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see Talk:Christian Conventions#Proposed merger. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with this. Seeing the confusion re Kangaroo Island (discussion below) it really makes sense to keep them together unless they really needed to be split due to Wikipedia's article lenth policy. Donama (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kangaroo Island

I just removed a recent addition to the list:

Kangaroo Island South Australia[ki 1]

I understand that it appears as if Kangaroo Island should be added to the list but the group on Kangaroo Island are actually part of the larger "Two by Twos" group, and the public confusion (e.g. on the part of Reverend Goodes) in still naming them 'Cooneyites' merely persists because of the refusal to use an official name for the church. The split between the "Two by Two" mainstream church and the Cooneyites is detailed right at the top of this article as well as in a hatnote on this article and also in the "Two by Twos" article. That's why I've removed it.

Note: Not that anecdotes count here on Wikipedia but I'm absolutely sure of this because much of my extended family lives on Kangaroo Island (a 3 hour drive and ferry trip away from the Adelaide of Reverend Goodes) and are part of the "Two by Two" mainstream church. Donama (talk) 01:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]