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Hitting Bottom: "Is Dr. Drew Pinsky's Show Therapy or Tabloid Voyeurism?" The New York Times. December 30, 2009.

Seth Binzer

Should we list him under Seth Binzer, as opposed to Shifty Shellshock? He's referred to as Seth on the show.

They are all referred to as their real names during the course of their treatment. Mary Ellen Cook should probably be referred to under her real name if that's the way they will be listed. Either way, but they should be internally consistent. 68.63.165.28 (talk) 12:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addictions

It might be useful if a list of what said celebrities were being "treated" for was included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.40.63 (talk) 09:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree that there should be a column added to the cast list that states what addiction they are being treated for. I find this piece of information to be the number one question that everyone has when they watch the show. The show does not always disclose the reason each cast member is in admittance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theshawnz64 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It also might be a good idea to point out that the show documents actual physician run treatment in a hospital and an established treatment center, a la other medical shows that cover medical procedures such as surgeries. The irony quotes above seem to indicate that it isn't clear as written that the treatment is real, and the network and genre does have a potential implication that it is fake "game show" entertainment. 68.63.165.28 (talk) 12:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it is not simple tv, therefor i have removed that template. cheers--EmperorofBlackPeopleEverywhere (talk) 03:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although I am a critic of this show, I do believe that the treatment is real, for every celebrity that has been treated on the show has never said otherwise. Mdriver1981 (talk) 04:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Show Genre - Reality?

I don't really think that this show should be categorized as "reality" TV. If anything, it is more of a documentary. Cricket boy4 (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Documentary" is a word usually used with films. "Reality" is the term used for non-fiction television. Nightscream (talk) 08:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 11th for Season 4

Is it really premiering? It isn't showing on my VH1 schedule. Plus, I think that article confirming it said it was going to be airing with Bret Michaels's new show, so wouldn't that make the premiere the next week? 24.88.86.28 (talk) 14:32, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disproportionate Criticism

The article states that "While the series has won praise from both former addicts and other addiction specialists, many take issue with Pinsky's methods." However, in its current state, the article only covers the criticism rather than praise from addiction specialists. Does anyone else feel that undue weight has been given to the critics of this show? Do the vast majority of addiction specialists really disagree with the methods used on the show? I think that it might be beneficial to replace the "Criticism" section with something such as "Reception" or "Reaction from Addiction Specialists" that would cover both negative and positive opinions of the show in a manner that is reasonably proportional to the actual response from experts in this field. JohnnyGrungetta (talk) 05:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the section title per your suggestion, and added some material from the Pinsky article that for some reason, I neglected to add previously. But beyond that, the proportion of criticism to praise in the section is determined by the available sources that we come across. Nightscream (talk) 05:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Granted, but all the sources provided currently are either "pop press" (Salon.com, The Daily Beast) or otherwise are from what are clearly non-clinician sources. A large portion towards the end of that section is devoted the pure opinions of a rock guitarist and drummer. So, where exactly did Cantrell and Kinney go to medical school? I must have missed that part of their biographies.

I also noted the NYTimes article by Norris is duplicated several times as though it were multiple sources, and furthermore, it is not a very strong source in and of itself. The only parts of real value are the comments by Foote and Mariani, and both of these seem a tad uninformed (that is to say, if they knew more about the show they certainly wouldn't have said those things.)

I think these articles are worth added as sources: Part 1 and Part 2. Don't mistake them as mere blog posts at first glance; they are written by Dr. Mary Oxford specifically representing the Menninger Clinic.

156.40.31.173 (talk) 20:15, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Adler

I am curious why the editor listed his addiction as marijuana. Putting aside the debate about the addictive nature of marijuana, he was shown on screen after having smoked heroin in a makeshift aluminum foil pipe, and virtually crippled from drug withdrawal (clearly not indicative of marijuana). In interviews he has even referenced cocaine and heroin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.228.143 (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He was treated for Valium, alcohol, heroin, and cocaine addiction in Season 2, which is indicated in that cast table for that season. In episode 2 of this season, however, he indicated during his intake interview with Drew and in the Process Group that he was at the PRC this time to get off marijuana. Nightscream (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eminem

Eminem claims this and discovery channel are the only tv he watches, is this notable enough to include in the 'Reception' section? http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1644231/eminem-weighs-on-kanye-westtaylor-swift-vma-incident.jhtml 174.99.54.167 (talk) 04:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think so. Reception should only contain material from critics, and not just notable fans of the show. Eminem is not reliable in that area. Nightscream (talk) 14:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Confused at definition of painkiller? Jeffy Conaway, Amber Smith

In the table that lists their addictions, both make a mistake and list many types of drugs as 'painkillers' or 'opiats'... for example: Amber Smith, Depressants and opiates (Adderall, Dexadrine, Valium, Xanax, Klonopin, Suboxone)[44] The only drug that is actually an opiate, and a semi synthetic one at that, is suboxone.