Talk:WWE '12

Possibly non-constructive edit

This edit changed the following things:

• Changed the infobox template name to the one for the redirect
• With explanation, reverted my change to have the system names later in the lead
• Reintroduced the advertising-like copy in the gameplay section from my attempt to make it sound more neutral
• Added a roster list, which has been discouraged in previous wrestling video game articles (see Talk: WWE All Stars)
• Removed two references leaving one and oddly enough the single source template from the top

I've reverted the user a few times, but I don't want to violate WP:3RR. So if anyone else thinks these edits are not constructive, please revert. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I take it you are not allowed to add a roster. Other fighting game pages have a roster included.92.235.168.144 (talk) 14:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

No, current consensus is not to include a roster list in wrestling game articles. See Talk:WWE All Stars for additional information. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:11, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

OK. Everything until the official roster is revealed during August is hearsay anyway.92.235.168.144 (talk) 15:25, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The roster will be revealed in 5-10 minutes!86.184.86.42 (talk) 20:01, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

A games roster is one of the largest factors especially a wrestling game so including the roster for this game is more than reasonable its crucial, in game characters are always a major selling point for these games Wrestlings Savior (talk) 09:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

No it's not crucial at all. Continued roster additions will just get reverted back. It falls under WP:GAMEGUIDE, and that is something Wikipedia isn't.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 11:52, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I read the WP:GAMEGUIDE & it says nothing about Rosters fella plus I wrestling game pages should be taken under the same notion as all other combat sports game ala UFC Undisputed 2009, UFC Undisputed 2010, Fight Night Round 4, etc that all include rosters. NOT including them would be disrespecting wrestling games as combat sport simulations, and saying that they're "too big" is not fair since no licensed wrestling game has ever had more than 80 characters unlike the aforementioned UFC game had more than 100 fighters Wrestlings Savior (talk) 21:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I never said WP:GAMEGUIDE was inclusive of wrestling games, I stated that roster lists in wrestling games fall under that guideline. But while you are sitting out for awhile, you need to read this, this, this, and this. It will help explain to you WHY roster lists are not including in WRESTLING games only.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 12:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Even in fighting game topics, they can just make a page for all the characters instead of creating individual ones, like with the Tekken games. There's only a few exceptions, like if the character's page was too long to slot in with all other info. Wikipedia has topics for wrestlers cos they are real, and not just in-game only characters.92.235.168.144 (talk) 13:52, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Breaking Point wikilink

I think it should remained wikilinked. It's clearly named after the event, which is relevant information. Only the words "Breaking Point" are linked, so it's not like people will get confused regarding that. If you remove the link, at least mention that it's name after the pay-per-view. --Jtalledo (talk) 23:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

And just what is your source for this? In-game doesn't count, it needs to be substantiated through other third-party sources.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 12:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

That's precisely why it's wikilinked. No claim is made in the article that it's named after the pay-per-view, but the wikilink lets people know that it shares its name with a pay-per-view. Not too thrilled with the tone of your response either. I know as much as everyone else that things need sourcing. I didn't just fall off the boat you know. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Why not just use the generic term for now then? I feel the fact that it shares a name with a PPV is irrelevant. The review I saw online said nothing about it.  ArcAngel   (talk) ) 23:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Why all the acrimony towards the link? It's not intentionally misleading (e.g. your first sentence, which I take as facetious).As I said, it tells people that might not know that is shares its with a pay-per-view that WWE produced, which they might not know. It seems like the only argument is "I dont' like it."--Jtalledo (talk) 23:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not that I don't like it, it's the fact that the generic term fits better within the tone of the article, but the way it is worded, it is unclear as to "how" it is related to the PPV.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 23:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "fit", but the term is in title case, which clearly separates it from the psychology term. Anyway, if you really feel that way, I suppose you'd also want to link to rock (geology) instead of Dwayne Johnson. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

My point is, there is no explanation in the article as to WHY it links to the PPV, so it makes it confusing. Plus, I think you are misconstruing the context of the meaning. That's why I suggested using the generic term, because that it what I feel was the intended use of the term.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 14:47, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

The article is about a WWE game. It's linking to an article on a WWE pay-per-view with the same name. Need we connect the dots from point A to point B? Or should we do as you suggest and link point A to point Zeta like you suggest. But my point is moot. You want to link to that, fine. Do as you will. Link to Breaking Point (The Outer Limits). Breaking Point (2010 TV series) or even Point Break. Those are all legitimate links with that line of thinking. Or delete the link, sentence, word whatever outright if it shines your fancy. Just leave me out of it. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:44, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Chavezjulio, 1 September 2011

Chavezjulio (talk) 23:52, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

23 titles?

Cory said on Twitter that WWE '12 will have 23 championships in it. This could be mentioned with a citation, but obviously, we don't need to list 'em all on the article.92.235.168.144 (talk) 14:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Twitter cannot be used to source that info since it is considered an unreliable source.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 22:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit: Spelling.

I see. Well, they'll probably put the full list on the THQ roster page soon.92.235.168.144 (talk) 19:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Create an arena !!!

WWE 12 has a new creation mode , it is create an arena this mode will let us recreate some of the most famous rings and matches in history from royal rumble to holloween havoc to ECW to all japan its all possible in wwe 12. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.191.49 (talk) 13:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Cover Art

The dialogue under the box art says Blandy Boreton, instead of Randy Orton. Just thought I would bring it to your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.250.113.179 (talk) 20:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

•  Already done --JC ^{Talk to me} _{My contributions} 05:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)