Talk:Meng Huo

The Nanman King Meng Huo

At the time of the Wu and Wei battles, Zhuge Liang decides to launch a full assault on the Nanman tribes. After heading south to the lands of China, the Shu startegist captures and releases the Nanman King Meng Huo 7 times to force him into surrender.

If the Meng Huo and his forces outnumbered the Shu forces, how is it that Meng Huo was caught 7 times. Due to the terrain that the Nanman people lived in the Shu army should have encounter some difficults while traveling through the land. If Zhuge Liang did capture Meng Huo 7 times, what, if any, methods did he go about rather than meet the Nanman in head on battle and if Meng Huo would serve the Shu forces, how long would time permit him to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanman QED

Meng Huo's depiction

I don't think that the picture from Dynasty Warriors needs to be there. Think about if someone like Socrates, who we don't know the look of, had a video game character on his Wikipedia page. Also, I doubt that Meng Huo had metal claws. I say the photo should be taken off this page. --Riction 08:23, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. The picture and the over-lengthy section on his appearance in Dynasty Warriors makes the article look like a joke, if you ask me. 67.46.0.13 11:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC) (Not anonymous, firewall at my job won't let me stay logged in, user ID is Themill).

A joke? As opposed to another emotion you are attempting to invoke with that scribbled image at the top? The picture only cites the most modern reference to Meng Huo. If you have an image from the television series or something from another modern reference, then replace it. Those claws are weapons, larger versions of the "cat claw" used throughout history by many Eastern warriors and assassins. I don't see how modern references to historical individuals are a "joke," and I see that disdain for the video game medium is as alive and well as ever. I wonder if you'd rubbish the section if it was derived from a book or movie instead. Gamer Junkie 12:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Meng Huo.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Meng Huo

According to Zhang Hua Lan's article, "Discussion on Meng Huo," Meng was only a fictional character invented by later historians. Modern historians like Huang Cheng Zhong also pointed out Zhang's view represents the majority of the academics. Note that the the word "Huo" (獲) means "captured" in Chinese.----EkmanLi (talk) 23:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Where can I find this article? Is it on the internet somewhere? Plunged (talk) 14:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Quote on Pei Songzi's view over Xi Zaochi

Huang Chengzhong uses Pei Songzhi's accusation against Xi Zaochi of anachronistically inserting quotations in the biography of Wang Ling in his article, Did Zhuge Liang really Capture Meng Huo Seven Times? (諸葛亮真的“七擒孟獲”嗎？). At first glance it's easy for people to perceive it as a "textual manipulation done to cast meng huo as fictional." However, after I read the whole article of Huang Chengzhong, I can only logically believe he adopts that quote because he wants to show Xi Zaochi as the first one(s) who "make up" the stories like the "7 times freed."("如此言之类，皆前史所不载，而犹出习氏。且制言法体不似于昔，疑悉凿齿所自造者也？")

Also, it should not be a "textual manipulation done to cast meng huo as fictional" at all, because Huang believes in the historicity of Meng Huo, and this fact has actually been pointed out in the main article before the quote.

EkmanLi (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)