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Daniel Ortiz (paintball player)

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Paintball player of questionable notability. No significant coverage found from independent reliable sources - all provided references are either primary sources or blogs. Google news search on "Daniel Ortiz" paintball shows no results. Standard search on the same shows no significant coverage - mainly social media, unreliable sources, and Wikipedia mirrors. MikeWazowski (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:55, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is truth, if you search in google "Daniel Ortiz Paintball" and you search for news isn't appear, but if you search in google daniel ortiz and you search on images too many pictures and histories about him appear, i don't think that te article need to be eliminated because you have to be one of the worlds best paintball players to appear in google news... But if you search him by his team the "Los Angeles Ironmen" his team appear in news... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truquero57 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

Truquero, what we are looking for specifically, are independent publications in sources with editorial control, which cover Ortiz more than trivially (see WP:42). If you could find some of those, that would tremendously improve the article, and also probably sway this AfD. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - A recreational activity is not a sport, they get no special consideration at WP:NSPORTS. Sourcing to blogs, youtube and a paintball league ranking site fall well short of the general notability threshold. Tarc (talk) 17:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but, paintball is an sport, a xtreme sport for be more specific, a paintball player won't going to appear on ESPN or a sport page like that... If wikipedia won't consider like a sport sorry for wikipedia but it is an sport. Oliver Lang (one of the best paintball player) has his biography on wikipedia Oliver Lang because he is the best of the world, now I got a question, only the best of the world appear in wikipedia? this guy is the #19 in latin america and sorry if I wrong but I think that he is relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paintballxtreme (talk • contribs) 17:50, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I see only three articles for paintball players on WP : Oliver Lang , Ryan Podesta and Colt Roberts. The latter one has also been tagged for lack of proper sources since 2008. Most paintball teams are not notable enough to have their own WP article, as we can see here: List of professional paintball teams. Then how are their players supposed to be notable? So paintball players will definitely need coverage in independent reliable sources to satisfy WP:GNG. I can't find it for Daniel Ortiz. MakeSense64 (talk) 18:22, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

delete There does not appear to be any significant coverage in reliable sources of him. Some of the sources in the article do not even mention him. GB fan 19:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It I just say, if wikipedia have more information will be a better page, more information, more efficient, more help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paintballxtreme (talk • contribs) 02:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If there were information—that is, reliable sources—to build a page about him, I'd say to build one. There aren't any independent sources, though, and the primary ones that keep getting added to the article don't always support the claims they're trying to be used for. —C.Fred (talk) 02:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that this article would be eliminated, I mean he is and sportsman, he isn't anybody, last year I go to Argentina and see a paintball game and I saw this guy signing autographs and taking pictures with girls. To be 16 years old is something that few can do. But like C.Fred say, is difficult to find pages about it, there is but really is hard find it. I guess that because he is an under age guy must beware of the paparazzi and people like that.

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 *'''Keep It''' I just say, if wikipedia have more information will be a better page, more information, more efficient, more help.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Paintballxtreme|Paintballxtreme]] ([[User talk:Paintballxtreme|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paintballxtreme|contribs]]) 02:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 ::If there were information—that is, [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]—to build a page about him, I'd say to build one. There aren't any independent sources, though, and the primary ones that keep getting added to the article don't always support the claims they're trying to be used for. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 02:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
+::I don't think that this article would be eliminated, I mean he is and sportsman, he isn't anybody, last year I go to Argentina and see a paintball game and I saw this guy signing autographs and taking pictures with girls. To be 16 years old is something that few can do. But like C.Fred say, is difficult to find pages about it, there is but really is hard find it. I guess that because he is an under age guy must beware of the paparazzi and people like that.