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:::I can't speak for EEMIV, but I look at each article individually and make a decision on what I think should happen with that article. The different vessels within the Star Trek universe have different amounts of coverage by independent reliable sources so you can't base what I would recommend on other article on the information available for this article. This one does not have much coverage. Currently the article has 3 sources. the first source is not an independent source and does not establish independent notability. The second source might help, but I do not have access to the source and from the description in the reference itself is questionable. It appears that this is just supplemental information but I do not know for sure. The third source does not even mention the delta flyer, that appears to be a source that would be better suited for inclusion in the main Voyager article rather than this one. [[User:GB fan|GB]] [[User talk:GB fan|fan]] 19:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
:::I can't speak for EEMIV, but I look at each article individually and make a decision on what I think should happen with that article. The different vessels within the Star Trek universe have different amounts of coverage by independent reliable sources so you can't base what I would recommend on other article on the information available for this article. This one does not have much coverage. Currently the article has 3 sources. the first source is not an independent source and does not establish independent notability. The second source might help, but I do not have access to the source and from the description in the reference itself is questionable. It appears that this is just supplemental information but I do not know for sure. The third source does not even mention the delta flyer, that appears to be a source that would be better suited for inclusion in the main Voyager article rather than this one. [[User:GB fan|GB]] [[User talk:GB fan|fan]] 19:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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This topic is appropriately covered at the redirect target. The article itself does not assert this specific subject's [[WP:GNG|independent notability]]. The lack of sources and overwhelmingly in-universe treatment -- long-standing issues with this article -- suggest that this article does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for a stand-alone article. Chaswmsday, as the restoring editor, you have a [[WP:BURDEN|burden of proof]] to assert/demonstrate this subject's notability. |
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As for other ship articles, there are quite a few discussions at the Wikiproject talk page (and archives) about the treatment of Star Trek ships. The general consensus is that most articles are laden with in-universe trivia and fail to assert independent notability. There are many a-redirect for these subjects. Please feel free to engage with/ask for a third opinion at the Wikiproject talk page. --[[User:EEMIV|EEMIV]] ([[User talk:EEMIV|talk]]) 00:31, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
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I'm trying to fix the syntax (specifically the unbalanced comment tags) for the Wiki Syntax project. But I have to say these have me stumped. Please let me know what's with the whacky comment tags.
Zachara 08:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's because I'm a web programmer and I'm used to reading such things, but the comments seem balanced to me. Kaz 20:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I am not sure how to use this system and I don't want to go just editing away and do something wrong. But i feel i must point out that ont he front page it says the last apperance of the Delta Flyer was in Unimatrix Zero. I just watched Drive Season 7 episode 3 and the Delta Flyer is in it. If i see it in any later episodes i'll bring it up. Sorry if i am out of line bringing this up. ~percent20
The Delta flyer was rebuilt after it's destruction in Unimatrix Zero.
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The article doesn't make an assertion of independent notability. I've directed to an article where the subject receives a modicum of real-world treatment. --EEMIV (talk) 20:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Someone opted to undo the redirect without commenting here or at the wikiproject talk page. Please promptly articulate a rationale for restoring this content. Otherwise, I will restore the redirect Sundayish. --EEMIV (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- I have restored the redirect. There is no independent notability of this craft. I could not find significant coverage in any independent reliable sources. GB fan 19:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- This article seems to be no more or less notable than any other articles about warp drive vessels in the Star Trek universe. Do you propose redirecting all such articles?? --Chaswmsday (talk) 18:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- I can't speak for EEMIV, but I look at each article individually and make a decision on what I think should happen with that article. The different vessels within the Star Trek universe have different amounts of coverage by independent reliable sources so you can't base what I would recommend on other article on the information available for this article. This one does not have much coverage. Currently the article has 3 sources. the first source is not an independent source and does not establish independent notability. The second source might help, but I do not have access to the source and from the description in the reference itself is questionable. It appears that this is just supplemental information but I do not know for sure. The third source does not even mention the delta flyer, that appears to be a source that would be better suited for inclusion in the main Voyager article rather than this one. GB fan 19:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
This topic is appropriately covered at the redirect target. The article itself does not assert this specific subject's independent notability. The lack of sources and overwhelmingly in-universe treatment -- long-standing issues with this article -- suggest that this article does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for a stand-alone article. Chaswmsday, as the restoring editor, you have a burden of proof to assert/demonstrate this subject's notability.
As for other ship articles, there are quite a few discussions at the Wikiproject talk page (and archives) about the treatment of Star Trek ships. The general consensus is that most articles are laden with in-universe trivia and fail to assert independent notability. There are many a-redirect for these subjects. Please feel free to engage with/ask for a third opinion at the Wikiproject talk page. --EEMIV (talk) 00:31, 26 February 2012 (UTC)