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ANI thread regarding User:VodkaChronic

Since you declined speedy deletion nomination for this page I thought you should be informed of this [ANI discussion]. ~Crazytales (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC

Need to reset the clock on a 30 block you imposed

Hi James,

If this isn't an appropriate place for this, please refer me to the right place.

IN SUM: On Feb 1 you imposed a block on an IP for external link spamming vandalism. The sock has been evading the block, and I would like to ask someone to (A) softblock add'l IPs, (B) reset the 30-day clock for all of them. Details follow.

For background,

• Complaint 1, April 2011, No action

• Complaint 2, Sept 2011, result 2 day block

• Complaint 3, Feb 2012, soft block requested

Discussions

[discussion with responding admin]

[discussion with IP]

Results

Feb 1, 30 day block initiated for 97.87.29.188 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)

Feb 3, 30 day block initiated for 99.19.44.50 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)

UPDATE Pattern of block evasion, IPS all geolocate to West Michigan; same type of edits and linking in edit summaries; fondness for wikilinking, posting news articles, esp on politics and climate

One targeted article is [[1]], which has been edited by the same sock (probably) using the following West Michigan IPs (after I post this to your page I will post links to the thread on each of theirs)

• 99.19.43.166 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)
• 99.181.132.23 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)
• 99.181.145.106 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)
• 99.181.157.121 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)
• 216.250.156.66 (talk · contribs · count · api · block log)

Pursuant to WP:EVADE I am requesting the add'l IPs also be blocked, and resetting the 30-day clock for all seven. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You have evidently put quite a bit of work in here. I have reset the block on 97.87.29.188, which seems to be a stable IP address, used mainly or exclusively by this one editor for a period of at least six months (I have not checked further back than that). There doesn't seem to be any point in individually blocking any of the other IP addresses, as the user hops from one to another, and any IP I block now might already be no longer in use. However, I've placed a few range blocks, having first checked that there have been no constructive edits from those ranges looking as though they may be from other editors in recent months. I have also semiprotected a small number of the most persistently affected pages for a while. If any more IPs show up, do feel welcome to let me know. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for caring. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

He's B-a--a--a-a--a-a-aaaAAAaa ccckkkk......

He has used four different IPs since your last reset of the clock regarding 97.87.29.188. Please reset the clock again. Query, as just a plain ol' editor (not an admin or anything) is there a rollback tool available to me by which I can revert all edits by a block evader in one fell swoop? Not sure if I'd use it, but I sure would be tempted. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I've blocked 99.119.128.169, and Arthur Rubin has blocked 99.119.131.159. I've also placed a range block on a range covering them both, but it has to be a short block, as a couple of weeks back there were edits that were probably from someone else. I could keep on resetting the original block each time the editor uses another IP address, but there's probably not a lot of point, as the person just finds new IP addresses to use. I'm afraid in this sort of situation it's largely just a question of reverting edits and blocking each IP for a while as it comes up. Let me know of other IP addresses involved. Rollback includes a "rollback all" facility. If you have rollback rights, when you look at an editor's or IP's contributions page, you see a link to click which will rollback all pages showing in the listing where that editor or IP was the last to edit the page. If you want I can give you rollback rights (your editing history suggests to me that you won't abuse it). Let me know if you do want it. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Sure, I'd like to give rollback a try, with the understanding I only intend to use it for this specific (probable) sock. If some other situation arises where I am tempted I'll seek some additional blessing before firing away. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

deletion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_Payment_Group

Dear Mr. Watson,

I have been informed that you had deleted my posting in regards to Euro Payment Group(link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_Payment_Group). Could you please be so kind and render me further background information about the cause of this action. Euro Payment Group is one of the largest Gateway Providers in the payment industry and millions of payment credit card transactions are running through their gateway each month. I was about to render further financial background information about the company but needed to ask the company for permission. With your consent I would provide you with further background information that would stress the signifficance of this listing.

Thank you for your time and consideration!

Kind Regards,

Benny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennyb69 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The article was nominated for speedy deletion by Jeraphine Gryphon, on the two grounds that it did not indicate how the company was significant enough to be the subject of an encyclopaedia article, and that the article was unambiguously promotional. The article did look as though it might have been written as promotion, but I did not think it was unambiguous advertising, so I would not have deleted it for that reason. However, the other reason given certainly did apply: the article told us that the company is a provider of "payment services", and listed those services, but told us little else. I also looked online for information about the company. All of what I found had one or more of the following characteristics: (1) not independent sources, being on the company's own web site or the website of some associated organisation or promotional in nature; (2) not reliable sources, being in a wiki or some other sort of site that accepts content submitted by the public (e.g. www.complaintsboard.com); (3) a mere listing in a directory or some other minimal mention. JamesBWatson (talk) 23:18, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

If there is a belief...

...that the previous block of User:TopGun was "unjustified" as can be seen here, then I would be more than willing to reduce his current block to 72hrs, as would have been the norm in an escalation process. Oddly enough, however, his previous block and current block both have to do with 1RR impositions that he disagrees with. I meted out the current block as 1 week as escalation from 72hrs ... there was nothing in the block log to note that the 72 hr one had been "wrong", and my review of the situation says it was likely right all in all. You may have already had a look at User talk:TopGun lately, and the 2 AN/3RR reports that let to his current block. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:09, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

My feeling is that the block may well have been justified. However, the blocking admin failed, in my opinion, to clearly indicate what in the editor's history justified the block. I consulted the blocking admin who, as I remember it, did not directly oppose an unblock and did not take the opportunity to justify the block. Another admin who took part in the discussion seemed to think the block should be lifted, but did not do so. I did not return to the scene until the block had already expired. In response to enquiries from TopGun I said that the blocking admin had not adequately explained the block, that I was unwilling to spend a lot of time searching for reasons myself when the blocking admin could have saved me the trouble, and that in the absence of a justification for the block TopGun should be given the benefit of the doubt. That falls a good way short, in my opinion, of saying "the block was unjustified". Making two reverts did not on its own justify the block, but there may be justification in TopGun's recent editing history considered as a whole, for all I know. From the fairly brief checking I did it looks as though TopGun had probably been uncooperative and unconstructive. The one point on which I do think TopGun is clearly right is that there is no provision for an individual administrator to impose a 1RR restriction. In fact, doing so is completely out of keeping with the whole nature of adminship. To summarize: I think the block may well have been justified, but the blocking admin did not make that clear to me, and I said I would have given the benefit of any doubt. If any other admin who has looked further into the history thinks that the block was justified, or that it wasn't, I have no quarrel with them. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I would, however, disagree with one tiny thing: the whole nature of adminship is to protect the project - and there can be zero argument that either the current or previous blocks have not been protective. First, admins often singlehandely impose 1RR as a condition of unblock. In that vein, a 1RR restriction may also be (in theory) a condition of "not becoming blocked"...so what's the diff? In the recent block, TG was clearly gaming the system, and baiting DS into a revert war, then ran off to AN/3RR the moment it was broken. Arguably, this was probably in any case (as an absolute minimum) a WP:DISRUPT block - so even if the 1RR argument fails (although, based on the community's knowledge of TG it never would fail, so IAR would kick in), the block would logically be valid for disruption - of course, that's why his unblock has not been actioned by anyone before now). Are the Pakistan-related articles under any form of AE anyway? That would make them 1RR from the start?! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

PS: I am not keen on the way TopGun has referred to my "I don't know whether the block was justified, and I would have given the benefit of the doubt" in support of "the block was unjustified", as though I had said that. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:33, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Having thought about it, I agree with you about admins imposing conditions for unblocking, or even for not blocking. In effect an admin can say "I think there is a justification for blocking for XYZ, but I will give you another chance as long as you abide by a 1RR rule." Then, if the user does not follow the 1RR rule, the admin can say, "Well, under the circumstance I don't think there is any longer a justification for not imposing the block for XYZ that was due to you all along." The trouble was that it was not made clear that that was the situation (if it was). JamesBWatson (talk) 17:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

User:Sotdh

A look at the contribs[2] brings up two concerns. An inability to edit properly when they are trying, and a willingness to blank pages when they don't get their way. I don't agree with (CK)Lakeshade [3]] that the msg left on his page[4] was vandalism (although he had already had to fix Sotdh's messes before and was likely just fed up), it was just a question, but this editor has blanked the page twice (and others) and is being disruptive with other edits, reversions. I'm getting the impression that he is a bit too compulsive for his own good. Maybe someone shaking his tree a little will help. As it is now, he is dangerously close to getting blocked, imo. Dennis Brown (talk) 21:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree, looking at his edit history, he lacks the competence required to edit Wikipedia. --Bmusician 03:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with both of you. I have given the user some advice on editing, and tried to be encouraging, as it looks as though we are dealing with an editor who came here with good intentions. There are definite competence issues, but it is possible that the editor can edit constructively if he/she avoids those areas where the problems lie. It does look, unfortunately, as though a block may be on its way soon, but I think we are still in the stage where encouragement and advice are worth trying. I do think that a gentle warning that a block is a possibility is in order, and I have given such a warning. However, (CK)Lakeshade's level four vandalism warning was totally inappropriate, and unhelpful. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• You have talkback on my page regarding my warning. In future, if my name is brought up in conversation please message me on my talk page if you intend to discuss anything related to my edits. Please and thank you :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 09:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

To further add to this discussion for anyone viewing here, the linked edit above regarding me is incorrect. The editor got a vandalism warning for this edit: link because he was pissed of that I asked him to stop adding unsourced, incorrect, and test edited contributions to Kesha. His warning had nothing to do with asking me for help over 2 weeks later. If you had checked the time stamps you would have discovered that his warning was on February 2nd. His actual legitimate question was on February 18th. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 10:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

That is my fault CK. The only reason I didn't leave a note on your talk page is because I wasn't complaining about your leaving the message, just making an observation, sorry if it looked stronger than it was. My concern is and was trying to rehabilitate a potentially well meaning, but incapable editor, not to pass judgement on your tag. Regardless, I read the history improperly. Dennis Brown (talk) 00:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why my page was nominated for deletion

I am trying to start the Christian Democratic Party USA and have been working on it for a long time now. Why was it scheduled for deletion from wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidharris1981 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

The article does not assert any notability, and so there is currently a discussion about whether or not it should be deleted, because all articles must conform to notability guidelines in order to be kept. If you want to prevent your article from getting deleted, please cite reliable sources that are independent of the subject in the article. --Bmusician 03:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information about just anything. To be the subject of an article, a topic has to have received a significant amount of coverage in reliable sources. Nothing I have seen suggests that this party satisfies Wikipedia's notability standards, but you can look at those guidelines yourself if you like, and see whether you can produce evidence that it does. The most relevant guidelines are the general notability guideline, the guideline on notability of organisations, and the guideline on reliable sources. Also, Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations may be helpful. It is not an "official" Wikipedia guideline, but rather a collection of advice which various editors have put together to help newcomers. It may be helpful to you, and in fact my advice is to look at that first, before the other guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

User talk:DanielBowling

I see that you blocked this user on February 10th. I'm just letting you know that he seems to understand what the problem with his behavior was, and pursuant to that I've unblocked him. Just a courtesy note. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Mail

Hello, JBW. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

There's no charge for the hat - I'm just pleased it eventually found its way home, and embarrassed that it took so long ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of redirects

I thought that some cleanup was needed but now I see that it doesn't matter, thanks for clarifying! --Zoupan (talk) 08:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Robb76

We have an unblock request from this editor, who claims not to be a sockpuppet. You blocked them directly following an autoblock in November. Could you have a look and confirm, if only to put this one to bed? I'm all for AGF, if warranted, but defer to you on this one. Thanks! UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 16:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Richard-Alatorre-Los-Angeles-City-Council-1986.jpg

I'm sorry, but do you think you might explain this deletion? Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. The file is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License, which is incompatible with the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License used by Wikipedia. The most important difference is that licensing terms of the file forbid use "in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation", whereas Wikipedia's licensing terms permit such use. This means that, if the file is included in a Wikipedia page, we are giving permission to others to use the file in ways that the copyright owner has explicitly stated is unacceptable. JamesBWatson (talk) 23:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Unblocking my user name: Infuzein

Dear James:

First, thank you, very much, for unblocking my account. I sincerely appreciate your assistance and attention to that matter.

I will spend some additional time looking at all the rules and regulations, and if I have any questions, I hope I may be able to follow up with you?

Best regards, Infuzein (talk) 15:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Spamming

Dear James, I've updated two entries recently and been contentiously flagged as spammer. The first entry was under “Proxy Server” – I’ve added an external link to GeoEdge.com – which is today the largest proxy server provider in the world. A 100% legit provider, serving companies like, Google, Groove shark and MySpace Under the same definition there is a list of many other proxy server providers: Nginx, Wingate, Microsoft , TriangleBoy etc. Why is it different? I’m a big fan of the Wikipedia (and even contribute some money last year) and understand how spamming can harm the quality of Wikipedia, but I find it hard to accept that there are different standards and polices in place for diff companies. Thanks in advance, Hans Goldberg, www.geoedge.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.114.88.236 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 22 February 2012

(talk page stalker)You'll need to read over WP:LINK and definitely WP:COI since you're the owner of the site. Calabe1992 16:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

• I don't think that the list of individual proxy servers was appropriate. That is not what a "see also" section of an article is meant for, especially with the comments that accompanied many of the entries. However, even if the list were considered appropriate, a user who does nothing but add links relating to one commercial product is likely to be seen as using Wikipedia to promote or publicise that product, which is contrary to Wikipedia's policy.
• Two other points:

1. If you are blocked, that means that you may not edit Wikipedia. It does not mean that you are allowed to edit Wikipedia provided that you evade the block by switching to a different IP address. Any IP address you use in this way is likely to be blocked too, and the original block could be extended.
2. It seems that you are editing via an anonymizing proxy, which conceals your location and would have concealed the fact that you were the same person as the one previously blocked, has you not effectively said so. Unless there are good reasons why you should do so, use of proxies in this way to edit Wikipedia is unacceptable. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for you defiled and quick response. Let me start with your last comment re proxies – as a proxy provider I do have access to many proxies – but I have never used them (and will not use them in the future) for editing Wikipedia pages. I’ve tried several times to add reference to GeoEdge under “Proxy Server” and always used my legit IP address. Regarding your comment: “a user who does nothing but add links relating to one commercial product is likely to be seen as using Wikipedia to promote or publicise that product, which is contrary to Wikipedia's policy.” – Agreed, so what would be an appropriate why to mention our company, and under which section ? – taking into consideration that we are the leader in this space.

As a side note GeoEdge Proxy Service is a premium service and is not used for as anonymizing proxy – all our IP are published and only used my business to view ads in different geolocations – you are welcome to visit our website to learn more about our service. Best Regards, Hans — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.161.235 (talk) 11:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

The reason I thought you were editing via a proxy was the fact that within a short time you have been travelling back and forth between Israel and Chile, and also that edits which look as though they may have been made by you come from France. I also seem to remember seeing an edit that looked as though it might have been you from the USA, but I can't remember where it was, and am not inclined to spend time searching for it now.

If GeoEdge is as significant as you suggest then I am surprised that some independent, uninvolved person has not yet written an article about it for Wikipedia, and my searches have also turned up less in the way of evidence of notability than I would have expected. I have found abundant material on promotional and advertising sites, unreliable sources such as blogs, FaceBook, etc, but little if anything from reliable independent sources. I can, in fact, find very little evidence that the business satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. (It is also necessary to filter out references to "GeoEdge" that seem to have nothing to do with your business, such as this one.) You are probably not the best person to edit about your business, as you have a conflict of interest, but if you are thinking of doing so then I suggest looking at Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

James, we are not as known as Microsoft :) but with all due respect you are simply wrong. We are the leader in this space, here some recent publications & blog post – none of them is a paid one. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/billrobinson/hightech-startup-focus-ge_b_1276772.html http://stage.adsafemedia.com/about-adsafe/blog/ad-tech-top-10 http://www.hasoffers.com/blog/testing-geo-targeted-affiliate-offers/ http://makettinginternetblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-do-advertisers-geoedge-spy.html Our leadership position is both in technological level and market reach level - What else can I do to prove you that?! This is frustrating – there are many companies that are much smaller than us and less notable that are mentioned in Wikipedia. I know your intention are good, but please be open minded... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.161.235 (talk) 15:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You say that I am "simply wrong", but you don't say what I am wrong about. However, reading your message I get the impression that you think I was wrong to suggest that your business is not notable. If that is so, then I did not take enough effort to express clearly what I was intending to say. I was very careful to say exactly what I meant and no more, but perhaps I should also have explicitly mentioned some of the things I was not saying. I did not say that your business was not notable: I said that I had tried and failed to find evidence of notability, which is by no means the same thing. However, I have been alive long enough to know that many people will read the one as implying the other, so I should probably have pointed out the difference. My guess is that you are sincere when you say that your company is "the largest proxy server provider in the world", and my guess was that the largest proxy server provider in the world would have plenty of coverage in reliable sources. I therefore set out to search for such coverage, in the expectation of easily finding it. I was surprised that I did not easily find any. If my conclusion had been "this company is not notable" then I would have said so. Instead, I told you that I could find no evidence of notability, but left the question open, and gave you a link to Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, so that you could see for yourself what sort of evidence was required, if you could provide any. That page gives numerous links to other pages that may be of help to you. Perhaps the most relevant ones are the general notability guideline, the guideline to notability of organizations and companies, and the guideline on reliable sources.

As I have said, I expected to find evidence of notability, and I was surprised that I didn't. I don't know why that is. It is possible that the company is not as significant as you suggest, but I did not assume that. It is possible that there is evidence, but for some reason the usual ways of searching for it did not readily find it. It is possible that the proxy server business as a whole does not have the sort of notability that Wikipedia's guidelines require, including "the largest proxy server provider in the world". I don't know. However, it is important to realise that the fundamental factor involved in Wikipedia's concept of notability is substantial coverage in multiple independent sources: it is not the size of the business, or anyone's assessment of the "importance" of it (however that may be measured). Also, what matters is the degree of notability, not the degree of notability relevant to others in the field. I have looked at the three links you have given me above, and considered for each one whether it shows notability in Wikipedia's sense. One of the first things I noticed was that all three of them have "blog" in their URL. Generally speaking, blogs are not reliable sources, as anyone can set up a blog and write anything they like on it. It is not always that straightforward, as some perfectly reliable journalists write online columns which they choose to call "blogs", but usually blogs are not reliable sources. Certainly blogspot (which hosts one of the pages you linked to) is not a reliable source. Then, looking at the content of the pages you linked to, the first page I see is full of language that looks entirely like marketing-speak. I look further, and find that the website says of itself "AdSafe Media, the industry leader in online brand protection and campaign performance control", "the online advertising ecosystem with the goal of growing the size and strategic importance of the entire industry", and so on and so on. All of it seems to be telling me that the site exists to further the aims of the businesses it covers. The very language in which it describes itself and its services says the same: the kind of relentless peacockery that nobody but a professional advertising or marketing person could write. In fact, the only one of your links which looks as though it may be a suitable source is http://www.hasoffers.com/blog/testing-geo-targeted-affiliate-offers/. That one source is not enough, but it may be a step towards enough, if it is a genuinely independent source. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Just to make sure we are on the same page : “The first page I see is full of language that looks entirely like marketing-speak.” - The first link in an article that was written by the Huffington post – one of the largest and most distinguish online internet newspapers with more than 35m readers a month (owned by AOL) – the journalist did a research about us and this is what he wrote. Do you question the authenticity of the journalist and/or Huffington post? The second link goal was to show that GeoEgde technology was chosen as one of the top 10 announcement at the AD Tech show NYC (which is the largest trade show in the online adverting industry) – here is another link that that repeat this – (this is NOT our PR): http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/ad-tech-new-york-showcases-its-top-ten-exhibitor-news-announcements-1584748.htm Here is another link from a Q&A section (not sure if this meets the Wikipedia policy) http://www.seomoz.org/q/international-keyword-ranking-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.161.235 (talk) 09:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I see that above I wrote "One of the first things I noticed was that all three of them have 'blog' in their URL", but in fact there are four links, the first of which does not have "blog" in its URL. Evidently, seeing a string of blue URLs one after another over several lines of text confused me and I missed one. The Huffington post article is probably the best of the sources you have mentioned, but I have only glanced through it briefly. As for the latest two links you give, one is a press release and the other is a post to a forum. I have now spent a considerable time looking at sources and a significant time writing accounts of my impressions. I hope that the effort has been helpful to you. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

deletion of my biographical article of Dr. Joseph Berger - page called Joseph Berger (Neurologist)

Dear Sir,

I wrote a biographical article with tons of real sources from Medical Journals. - the page was called Joseph Berger (Neurologist) My name is Josh Hood and I'm writing about a doctor who does brain research that I read about a few times in medical journals. I compiled all this information at my local medical library. I'm a student. Josh Hood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josherb213 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

The vast majority of the content of the article was a direct copy of another document, almost certainly infringing copyright. What was left was unambiguously promotional in tone. It also went into quite unnecessary detail about his career history: the kind of stuff that people might put in their CV/resume, but not the sort of stuff that's suitable for an encyclopaedia article. Can you actually imagine anyone sitting down and reading all that? JamesBWatson (talk) 13:42, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I am going to resubmit without all the CV stuff I found. I just thought it was interesting because it had detailed reports of all of this guy's contributions to medical journals which other doctors might want to look up or read there I thought? I'll resubmit now without it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josherb213 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for spending the time, reviewing these links and consideration! Believe me I don’t want to keep wasting your (or my) time anymore…so my question is simple, can we now re add the link to GeoEdge under “Proxy Server”? I believe that we have passed the test of general notability. BTW - the PR link is an announcement by the trade show that they choose us - Not a PR that GeoEdge published...

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Observation

An old friend, I am guessing.[5] See contribs. You guys handing out free admin with a new account now? ;) Dennis Brown (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• A different IP Same user (sorry, been a looong day) User:122.109.245.111 certainly is. Editing as an ip while blocked. Editing the talk on Tinga Tinga Tales before asking for an unblock. Dennis Brown (talk) 01:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mr._Curious_Man Already reported. Pretty much cut and dry. Have to start wondering about competency at this stage, I mean, how can you be more obvious? Dennis Brown (talk) 01:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I have often thought that the person in question must be somewhat clueless. I will resist the temptation to say more, for beans reasons. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:35, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Fashion Fringe

I had noticed the article Fashion Fringe and intended to add some references. However another editor deleted most of the article in a series of edits, leaving it in the state where you saw it and speedy deleted it. It was unsourced but there are many many available sources. Just a quick Google turns up Women's Wear Daily, Hollywood Reporter, Vogue, etc.

Could you either userify it or would you be ok with me making an incubator request? Cloveapple (talk) 12:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Somehow the deletion reason failed to be recorded in the deletion log, but the reason was that only one person had made any substantial contribution to the article, and that person had requested deletion. I can userfy it if you like, but I would be a little unhappy about restoring the user's contribution after they had requested deletion, and anyway I'm not sure there would be much point, as the article as written was so promotional that it would have qualified for speedy deletion anyway, and it contained no indication of notability, and very little substantive content apart from a completely unnecessary and unencyclopaedic list of everybody connected to the organisation. I suggest that you just go ahead and write a new article on the subject, if it satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, I didn't realize that. If they requested deletion of their version of course I'll respect that. Thanks for the explanation as the chain of events had puzzled me. Cloveapple (talk) 19:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

It Must be Nice

I know you have plenty to do, but there has been some disagreement with an article creator on this one. I've tried to be as reasonable on the talk page as I can, but well, can you take at look at this article? If I've done something wrong, please let me know. It is just hard to deal with people who forcefully take ownership of an article like it was their firstborn child. I still think some of the refs don't belong, but have held off until a more experienced person takes a look. Dennis Brown (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry to jump in but I agree with you about the 'firstborn child thing'. Almost every newcomer is like that. Even i was like that in the begaining :P Yasht101 04:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article creator has been here since 2/09, so I wouldn't really call them new. Dennis Brown (talk) 12:04, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I just ended up sending it to AFD. Using first editions of unpublished magazines and blogs for references, linking to imdb for unrelated individuals, etc. Some of the worth references I've seen, obviously trying to just pad the article to make it look ref'ed when it wasn't, removing tags, etc. I'm tired of trying to help someone who edits disruptively and gets personal, and hateful, on the talk page. Dennis Brown (talk) 12:50, 26 February 2012 (UTC)