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Does it make sense that the name "Orange county" was used in 1683 (before 1688)? I'm not well familiar with things, but it seems that other places named "Orange" are typically named after Willam III. Or was the county renamed later on? Or are county names from a slightly later preiod? [[User:Tzafrir|Tzafrir]] ([[User talk:Tzafrir|talk]]) 13:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
Does it make sense that the name "Orange county" was used in 1683 (before 1688)? I'm not well familiar with things, but it seems that other places named "Orange" are typically named after Willam III. Or was the county renamed later on? Or are county names from a slightly later preiod? [[User:Tzafrir|Tzafrir]] ([[User talk:Tzafrir|talk]]) 13:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:Some places may be named for William III, but many are simply named for the Principality of Orange, or the House of Orange-Nassau in general. Naturally, as a Dutch colony, some of the parts of New Netherland would have been named after places in Europe. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Complaint Department: Please take a number]]</sup> 14:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
:Some places may be named for William III, but many are simply named for the Principality of Orange, or the House of Orange-Nassau in general. Naturally, as a Dutch colony, some of the parts of New Netherland would have been named after places in Europe. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Complaint Department: Please take a number]]</sup> 14:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for your reply. At the time this name was given, this was already part of the English New York. Was this area called Orange before? [[User:Tzafrir|Tzafrir]] ([[User talk:Tzafrir|talk]]) 11:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC) |
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- Why are we putting every hamlet on the county page? Isn't the town page good enough? Stepp-Wulf 02:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC).
- I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. The list at the bottom of the article is designed to list all cities, villages, towns, and hamlets...as they are all part of Orange County. If you could specify more your objection, maybe that would help. Newnam(talk) 02:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
No, The list says "cities and towns." It should probably say "Cities, towns, and villages," and maybe did so in the past until someone edited it. Hamlets can be placed in the town pages, unless they are such significant communities that they merit inclusion in the county list. Stepp-Wulf 02:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC).
- I've changed the title of the section to Places which should allow for inclusion of all that is listed. It is my opinion that the hamlets and villages should be mentioned in the list, as there is no reasno here to not be all inclusive. Let me know what you think, Newnam(talk) 04:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- If you look at some of the big counties like Nassau and Suffolk, people have tried to do this, and the county articles get to be rather cumbersome (like half the article is list after list of communities). Orange County has lots of places, so, if you want to do this, you have a big task ahead of you, more so, if you try to make an article for each little pudunk place. Another concern is that there are many places across the state with the same name {"Wrights Corners" is really popular). In truth, most "hamlets" don't amount to much, maybe a few houses and a convenience store. Stepp-Wulf 03:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC).
- Ok, I took a look at Hamlet_(place)#New_York and you're right, hamlets shouldn't be in there...however, villages should, as they are there own incorporated place. Thanks for helping to clear it up, Newnam(talk) 06:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
William H. Seward
How could OC, New York be the "birthplace of William H. Seward in Florida"????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DellusMaximus (talk • contribs) 08:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC).
- Florida, Orange County, New York. It's about 75 years older than the state. Kafziel Talk 08:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
How about George Washington? I haven't seen anything about him living in Orange County (he was from Virginia and OC was quite rural back then).Papercrab (talk) 02:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- He had his headquarters there during the Revolution. (Funny... almost three years since the last question and I'm still the one answering.) Kafziel Complaint Department 07:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Washington was encamped or headquartered in OC during the Revolution, as I'm sure he never considered it as a "home" nor treated it as such. I doubt that Mount Vernon was ever on the market! With the War over and Presidential responsibilities in NYC finished, he beat feet. It's still a great association for the county and state, though! And what with the Purple Heart museum in OC and all (Washington's creation - the medal, not the museum). I read where NYS was going to close New Windsor Cantonment to save money, but I don't know if that really happened. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
OC history - subractions and additions
With the loss of the Rockland County area, OC gained the Newburgh area from Ulster County. I am foggy on the details, though, which is why I can here. This was significant to the county's history and should be discussed. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
And OC was pivotal in the history of the French and Indian Wars, colonial "manifest destiny" expansion, and the Revolution - that's why Washington came to be headquartered there. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- Good suggestions. I'll see what I can dig up and add over the course of the next day or two. Thanks! Kafziel Complaint Department 21:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Does it make sense that the name "Orange county" was used in 1683 (before 1688)? I'm not well familiar with things, but it seems that other places named "Orange" are typically named after Willam III. Or was the county renamed later on? Or are county names from a slightly later preiod? Tzafrir (talk) 13:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- Some places may be named for William III, but many are simply named for the Principality of Orange, or the House of Orange-Nassau in general. Naturally, as a Dutch colony, some of the parts of New Netherland would have been named after places in Europe. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 14:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. At the time this name was given, this was already part of the English New York. Was this area called Orange before? Tzafrir (talk) 11:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Orange County move request
You all might be interested to know that there has been a move request to make the link Orange County become a redirect to Orange County, California. The article Orange County is currently a disambiguation page for the seven United States counties and other things named "Orange County". It would be replaced by a page called "Orange County (disambiguation)" which would show links to all the other Orange Counties. If you want to join the discussion, you can find it here: Talk:Orange County#Orange County redirect. --MelanieN (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Points of Interest
I'm just a lowly observer, so I'm hesitant to make any changes myself, but I'd like to point out a mistake in the Points of Interest section. The Woodbury Common is most certainly not in Monroe, as its very name would suggest. It's in Woodbury, which is already listed on this page as being both its own town and village. Listing it as being in Monroe is quite inaccurate, as it is not even on the border of Monroe (or Harriman - which would not even matter because the closest part of Harriman is actually a part of Woodbury, not Monroe). Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.85.60.165 (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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