Talk:U-KISS

Referencing

Ive been visiting this page for a long time, allow me to add reference to everything that was written here. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JmKissme (talk • contribs) 11:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)  Done

Members Section

There has been a Members Section added again on the page. Although i can see that it's just okay top put the infos. But i'm thinking that Wikipedia requires some sources. Please help in adding sources. jmarkfrancia (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Page Cleaning

Hello, since the page of UKISS has been tagged for reimprovement and cleaning. I already fixed the data so it would fall in categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JmKissme (talk • contribs) 11:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Members section

For some time now a few editors have been trying repeatedly to insert a members section into this article with very trivial information such as blood type, weight, height, etc. Time and time again, trivial information like this has been removed from many bands, especially Korean boy bands or girl groups. Most if not all of the information should not be included because it bears no real significance to the band. As for what material might still fit in this article, it can be included in the general content, not in a list, of course only if it is sourced. I will again remove the members section, but if you disagree with me, make your argument here. Do not restore it again without bringing your arguments here. Sorafune +1 22:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC) jmarkfrancia (talk) 16:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)  Done

Referencing

Hi everyone who's helping to edit this article. Thanks for your help in trying to help other people to understand and know U-KISS more. Just wondering, if anyone is familiar with the referencing process, can you please help to reference some websites for this article. Your help will be greatly appreciated! A referenced article is an article whom people trust more! Thankyou(: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Libeika (talk • contribs) 14:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)  Done

 Done I already added Refernces to most parts of the page to make it reliably source. jmarkfrancia (talk) 04:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Xander and Kibum leaving U-KISS

Yeah, I've heard about it just today and I must say I am very shocked.

However, I must say the level of unnecessary spam by the fans here is not good. This is Wikipedia, not a blog!!

Since I'm not that great at editing 'big' things on Wikipedia, because I'm too chicken to do so...someone please help? ^^ Because honestly I don't like seeing an article like this.

WTF is with the 'RIP GOOD UKISS' thing BTW?! o_0

Spongalicious (talk) 07:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Jae91, 27 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

The information regarding Kim Kibum's departure from the group has been addressed. According to Kibum, the company told the group that they were going to replace two of the members. Kibum was one of the members to be replaced and Alexander was the other. The company requested that Kibum sign a contract dissolution, which he signed because he saw within himself that he was indeed lacking as a singer.

Alexander's contract however was not cancelled, he was just pulled from the band.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/kim-kibum-explains-his-departure-from-u-kiss http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/u-kisss-kim-kibum-provides-further-detail-on-withdrawal-on-kbss-entertainers Jae91 (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Since the page is no longer protected, the edit can be made directly. I have no idea if the edit should be made or not, but that can be worked out through discussion if there is objection to the edit. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Members section

Please stop adding a "Members" section that only consists of the names and birth dates. 1) Birthdates are irrelevant to the topic of this article, the band. 2) Birthdates, even if they were somehow relevant REQUIRE SOURCES 3) A members section onsisting only of the names of the band is duplicative because it is already covered as it should be in the lead paragraph.

As long as inappropriate "Members" sections continue to be added, THEY WILL BE REMOVED ON SIGHT.Active Banana (^bananaphone 12:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done

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UPDATING

If you are about to put information in the page and you are not sure where to put it, please post it in the talk page first so we can sort informations very well. And ofcourse, don't forget to add here the source. jmarkfrancia (talk) 08:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

A-Class Status

Do you think this article is qualified to be an A-Class Article? jmarkfrancia (talk) 10:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

• No. It's loaded with trivia and excessive detail, it's excessively wikilinked, and not well enough referenced. It's a fan page disguised as an article. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Full protection

I see an edit war about to start here. I see a big difference in opinion about how much detail to include. I have a hunch which side matches policy, but I'll leave it to all of you to sort out. Please note that this protection is not, in any way, an endorsement of the current version of the article; I simply protected it at the most recent edit. If you all can't come to an agreement, try dispute resolution. Since it looks like a major part of the concerns revolves around WP:UNDUE, I recommend that if discussion isn't fruitful here, you try the neutral point of view noticeboard, which handles UNDUE issues. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

• Fair enough. Well, let's start. *Sigh* Qwyrxian, do you have any idea how many of these fansites for Korean boy bands we have? If those editors would spend half that amount of time on subjects that really matter, we'd be riding high. BTW, I wish you had protected my version, haha. This is totally a mess, and I may go as for as calling on the BLP destructor. I think you know who I mean. Drmies (talk) 13:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Current version and its various problems

The current, protected version is a mess and totally out of whack with Wikipedia's guidelines: trivia, excessive detail, unreliable sources--basically, fan talk. But before we tackle such stuff as WP:UNDUE and WP:RS, perhaps a clear violation of the BLP guidelines can be made clear; perhaps there is one thing we can agree on initially.

This edit is unacceptable. First of all, it bloats the article with trivial information which does it no favors--look, for instance, at how a Featured Article, U2, tackles the list of members: you'll have to look carefully and then you'll find four names in the infobox. That's all. Second, these people have their own articles, which is where ALL this information should be found. Third, the birth dates are unverified, and a quick look at Yeo Hoonmin tells me that it's not even verified in his own article. Obviously I am not counting the band's own site as a reliable sources. In short: it's not properly verified, it's out of place, it's redundant, it's not found in good articles--it's fan talk. Drmies (talk) 13:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

• Okay. I understand now. But can you please let me edit the page for a week, so i can sort and delete out-of-place and unimportant informations. Then ill let you check it after for another reimprovement? Please?. jmarkfrancia (talk) 04:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
  • I would love for you to go over this stuff, and I appreciate your excellent manners: they are really too good for this place, in that you don't have to ask permission to do anything. But you are showing a good collaborative spirit and that's great. Good luck! Drmies (talk) 13:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)