Talk:Combichrist

This edit is far superior to the one that you have posted. I do not mean any offense, but it is true. Please change only what you see as an 'issue' instead of reverting to a page which has little to no information about the band's past or present.

Casing of letters

It's not a big deal, but I feel it's universally known as "Combichrist" with the lower casing on christ...

Hautskin 12:04, 24 December 2006

I'll go ahead and move the article then. --NeoVampTrunks 00:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Classification

Upgrading to Start class. EvilCouch 10:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Categorisation

Wasn't the category name invented by combichrist 'techno body music'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.179.128 (talk) 07:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

shouldn't it be added they are industrial or EBM. Otakuloco Nov. 29, 2007

They're just a piece of techno crap. The music has a shit to do with Industrial. Stupid marketing scum.

If you would listen to early Industrial such as Throbbing Gristle and then listen to early Combichrist (Joy to the World, Line of the Dead) then you would hear the similarities, and they are not "Techno." I listen to alot styles of music from the stuff they play in porn to Hardstyle, Dubstep, Industrial, Synthpop, and of course no-wave, punk, country, etc... so I'm pretty sure I can hear the similarities between them and anyone with a trained ear can hear the industrial progression in their music as well as compare it to 1st wave (SPK, Throbbing Gristle, Monte Cazza) 2nd wave (Skinny Puppy, early Ministry, early KMFDM) and 3rd wave (KMFDM, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails). Saying "they aren't Industrial" just because you want to be a pompous troll does not discredit them enough to remove them from the classification of "industrial." Get over yourself.

They're not Techno? Maybe you should wash your ears. And by the way... 2nd wave? 3rd wave? You're kidding me, right? There is only Industrial music (mid-1970s to early 1980s) and Post-industrial music (Power Electronics, Dark Ambient, Ritual, from Whitehouse to Genocide Organ, from Z'ev and Zoviet France to Lustmord and Grey Wolves).

Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Numb... they came from Synthpop/New Romantic, not from the Industrial music scene. Images in Vogue (cEvin Key, Don Gordon), Voice (Dwayne R. Goettel), Exotic Birds (Trent Reznor), early Ministry (Al Jourgensen) etc. etc. They all came from the Synthpop/New Romantic scene and created a danceable hard electro style in the mid-/late 1980s, partially influenced by some Industrial and Post-industrial stuff (TG, SPK) - besides many other influences (e. g. Portion Control and Liaisons Dangereuses who were a kind of Electro-Punk and Proto-EBM). They never had anything to do with the traditional Industrial culture. On the other hand, the KMFDM guys came from the Punk scene. So something is wrong with your 2nd and 3rd wave. Electro-industrial, EBM, Industrial rock aren't subgenres or "waves". All these styles are crossover genres.

^This poster really needs to sign their post with time-stamps. Boo-hoo it isn't the exact sound for "industrial" you are looking for, it is still industrial, has been referred to as such and is counted as such, so your argument is invalid. If it looks like industrial, sounds like industrial, is referred to as industrial, then it must be industrial. Find sources to counter it and then you'll have a more valid argument. Fucking hipster. --Mutlee (talk) 11:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Origin: Norway

Is this true? I was under the impression that Combichrist was formed in Atlanta after LaPlegua moved there from Norway, but I could be wrong. --Delirium 02:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Combichrist army

I deleted this one line section because it seemed rather pointless. Every band had devoted fans, whether their labeled jugalows, deadheads or the kiss army having a name for your fan base is not unique. Maybe if there was some history to back up the Combichrist army it would be worth having, but really, one line that says "their fans are devoted and the band is devoted to them" does not add to the article what so ever. --209.107.121.40 04:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, 'combichrist army' is kinda a derivative brand related to combichrist... they made badges with this on it, and I've read in places about the fact that Andy used this term relating to the dedicated fans of combichrist. I mean, sure, combichrist is not unique in having fanatical fans but La Plegua *did* say things about this in various places. I'm not sure what that should mean for the article though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.179.128 (talk) 07:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Saying you have an "army" is a pretty lame way of self-promoting. Are "Combichrist" in the charts? Do they have more than a small cult of deluded sub-juggalo retards following them? No and double no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.174.24 (talk) 09:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that last comment was pretty pointlessly judgmental of a certain fanbase. Next time, you can leave your biaised opinions aside and be an objective contributor if you don't mind. 207.164.158.194 (talk) 04:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it is pretty much EBM for 13 year old Hot Topic kids. 207.81.18.140 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC).

Videos

I have seen and the "Fuck That Shit" on youtube and am wondering if this is an official vid or just something some kid made, either way it's a wicked animation? | it appears so as it's now in the list

The heading to the list says there are four videos, but there are five listed; the fifth one says it's the fourth video. 213.107.83.140 23:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with the term "censored" version in reference to Throat Full of Glass. "The American copy of the single has a censored version of the video as it was deemed too inappropriate for audiences." This was not censored by anyone. It is the 'clean' version released by the record label on it's own free will. Perhaps Metropolis feared some sort of censorship, but I have yet to see anything that shows that censoring resulted in this decision. Rivethed (talk) 05:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Image

Maybe Combichrist logo would fit the article better than Andy's photo? --Duke B. Garland 19:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Ideally, the photo would be one featuring the full live lineup. The logo could probably serve well for the article. My only concern is that generally logos are trademarked and fair use laws get much more sticky when you begin involving trademarks. EvilCouch 02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, i'll make sure to read WP:LOGO carefully first. i saw logo used on angelspit article and thought it could be a good idea. --Duke B. Garland 16:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Change lineup on main page

Shaun F. is no longer in the live band. Jon H. is no longer in the live band. Bjoern P. is still an intermittent live member. Kourtney K. is returning for shows starting in 2008.

Is it really necessary to put the public apology letter in his wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.243.50.10 (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

More about band's name origin please

"The name Combichrist originates from a hardcore fanzine LaPlegua made during the late 90s..."

That's half of the answer I was trying to find, does anyone know why the fanzine was named Combichrist, then? Cheers. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.205.244 (talk) 02:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Live performance / Messing up lyrics

Should this article contain something on the live drummers which definitely alter the sound?

Also, Andy often messes up his lyrics (saw him twice and twice he did so, and also on various YouTube vids). Should this be mentioned?

Snikch (talk) 20:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Link the vids as reference (try to get more than 2, 3 or 4 should be fine) and add that he is usually drunk (there is a interview where he openly talks about his alcoholism) when singing.--Mutlee (talk) 18:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Major Revision

I know that this probably will never be up to par with becoming a Featured Article, but I'm going to do a MAJOR reworking of the page VERY soon, probably after my college finals. Anyone who will join me can leave me a line on my page or here, I'll need help with finding sources since some interviewers do not ask original questions and there are tons of duplicate interviews. --Mutlee (talk) 08:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I've helped a bit, and will continue to do so! Also please add anything more you can to the article Throat Full of Glass seconds after creating it, it was nominated for speedy deletion. Alinblack (talk) 11:22, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Members

It should probably be noted that Combichrist is only Andy in the studio; the full band only comes out for the live shows (unless there's been some change recently I've not been made aware of). I'm not in the mood for disassembling paragraphs right now but may address this myself in the near future. Dark inchworm (talk) 20:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Good point, could you find some articles/interviews online confirming this? I'm lazy today....--Mutlee (talk) 18:24, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Reviews aren't reliable sources. Combichrist has a shit to do with Industrial music. It's a piece of techno crap, nothing more.

Awww, is the butt-hurt hipster too afraid to sign the page? You can see the progression of Industrial music into EBM from Throbbing Gristle (1st wave) into bands like Skinny Puppy (2nd Wave) then Rammstein (3rd wave) and now you have the club bands which are the 2nd and 3rd waves combining with techno and house music, sort of like Psychic TV. To say Combichrist has noting to do with Industrial music is a very bad misconception. They have all the elements that you would find in a Skinny Puppy song like "Worlock" or "Dig It" just at a faster pace. OOOOOO Does that upset you, can you not pull your head out of your ass to see that it is the same kind of music? Well too fucking bad you stupid hipster fag because I'm both an Industrial fan and a Combichrist fan, and I will guard this page from annoying pissants! XD Seriously though, found something where Andy says "This isn't industrial at all" or something to that effect and you can change it, but you have to cite sources. 'Ems the rulez boys and girls! --Mutlee (talk) 10:57, 3 April 2012 (UTC)