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The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article is essentially a dictionary definition. Also, I have been unable to verify that the term is used in this way outsided of Wikipedia and the source listed. The results I found concerned speech development or the phases of speech technology. -- Kjkolb 00:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Googling for "Catford phases of speech" brings up a number of solid references that back up the source in the article. Assuming the article is completed then it will be notable and verifiable. Gwernol 00:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I only get 13 results for "Catford "phases of speech", which while it provides verification, makes me think that it is non-notable. -- Kjkolb 00:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Not very notable, but real and perhaps expandable into a good article. dbtfztalk 05:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Userfy per below. dbtfztalk 04:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Speech. Tyrenius 07:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteUserfy (see below) or merge with phonetics or speech or something; non-notable, and I hope "neuro-linguistic programming" has nothing to do with the bogo-science of a similar name. Also, the article title is not so good: at minimum, move to "phases of speech". Can anyone check the book cited? Phr 18:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If nobody knows how to merge the article, the move it to author's userspace and leave a note inviting himer to put the material back in articlespace (either by merging or by making another article) with more detail and with some assertion of notability (such as a description of who uses the theory and how it's used). The Google hits do seem to be valid. Note in comment further down that author is on wikibreak til December 2007. Phr 04:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: this appears to meet the cardinal tests of verifiability and neutrality, and is about a theory of speech which appears to be several decades old, i.e. is not original research. Not being a phoneticist, I don't know whether the theory is sufficiently widely accepted to belong here, but the fact that it is apparently referenced in online teaching materials from all over the world implies it may be. — Haeleth Talk 19:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep- Seems OK to me, if someone with expertise in this subject fleshes it out a bit. The El Reyko 21:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep but let's relist in a month, maybe, if nothing else is added. I do believe that time should be given here. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 21:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I notice that the person who seems to have originally entered the article, had not been notified about the AfD. I left a note on hiser talk page. Anyone starting AfD's should do this when appropriate. Phr 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Author's user page says author is on Wikibreak til December 2007, so don't expect a response. Changed vote to "userfy or merge".
- delete 2 months festering as a stub, this isn't adding anything of value to WP. It can always be recreated if an editor can deliver material of encyclopedic value. Pete.Hurd 01:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
NN Webcomic found here, fails WP:WEB. Been online for little over 6 months, Alexa comes back with 2 million, forums (yahoo group) almost totally dead. No sign of notability. - Hahnchen 00:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Webcomics/Deletion. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 01:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC) [reply]
- Delete as per nom. Mgekelly - Talk 08:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or merge to List of webcomics. color probe·Talk·Contribs·@ RCP 09:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The list of webcomics is only for webcomics with Wikipedia articles. City of God is currently on the list, but it would be removed if its article is deleted. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 16:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Well let us discuss the notability of the webcomic. Considering that there are about a billion websites on the internet (could be more), the ranking of the webcomic seems notable enough (at least for me). Moreover, the article provides the reader with some useful information. --Siva1979Talk to me 16:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The 2,000,000 traffic ranking is for the whole of straydreamers.com. And it seriously isn't a notable ranking. My personal homepage is more than twice as popular as this webcomic, according to Alexa's figures, and if anyone wrote an article on that I'd submit it for deletion immediately. — Haeleth Talk 19:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia is already incredibly lax towards webcomics, if any other website had this kind of rank and no real sources, there would absolutely be no keep votes. There are more popular myspace pages than this. I can think of a whole slew of single player quake and half-life levels which will have more google hits and more reviews than this site, and they'd obviously be deleted. Heck, I've just come back from a local family run restaurant, they probably had over 100 customers tonight, and that's going to be infintely more notable than this. - Hahnchen 00:13, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Suggest Comixpedia as a more appropriate home for this. — Haeleth Talk 19:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, does not appear to meet WP:WEB. -- Dragonfiend 20:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete low traffic rating, fails WP:WEB. Wikipedia doesn't need to be a web-comic directory. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete alexa ranking of over 2 million. nn and vanity.--Jersey Devil 02:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as above Pete.Hurd 01:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was move to List of NickToons Network Shorts. Mailer Diablo 01:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This article is a list of Nicktoons Shorts. It was tagged as unencyclopedic and I have to agree. If it has to exist, it would be better off as a category. -- Kjkolb 00:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to List of NickToons Network Shorts. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Change into a category, as per nom. Kukini 05:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the information. Move to a list if necessary. Better than changing to category, as more easily accessible. Tyrenius 07:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- move as per King O' Hearts. Roodog2k 21:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Move Per King of Hearts. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Move per King O' Hearts --Caldorwards4 16:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy delete as nn-bio. JDoorjam Talk 22:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No evidence of notability given in the article, none apparent via Google. Seems like a vanity page to me. Uucp 00:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nomination. ~MDD4696 01:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom--Tbeatty 02:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Sheehan (Talk) 02:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete per nom. Kukini 05:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:MUSIC. SorryGuy 06:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The article says that "In his academic career as a psychologist and criminologist ... He is often cited for his work". We have to assume good faith that this is true, and that it occurs in texts that are not online. I have placed a notability tag, so that these citations can be referenced. I think that this AfD should be stopped, and, if necessary, relisted, should the citations not be forthcoming. If they are, they article needs to be changed so that the academic work is the emphasis. I have left a note on User talk:Justin sane58, who started this article.Tyrenius 07:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- We have to assume good faith that this is true. No, actually we don't -- though perhaps you have a different "we" in mind when you use that word. So unless you're suggesting that Wikipedia has dumped its basic standards of verifiability and citation, there is no "we" (assuming, of course, you are not royalty, a newspaper editor, or have a tapeworm). --Calton | Talk 16:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This person is 20 years old. Are we to believe someone this young is both a psychologist and criminologist, especially with no sources listed? My good judgement says no, and the amateurish photo doesn't help much. This seems like a clear cut case of someone writing their own NN bio. VegaDark 08:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That is my POV too, but it doesn't accord with:
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- This appears to be a new editor Justin sane58and I feel there should have been dialogue in the first instance (especially as the editor has said it is not a vanity article), at least to ask for verification of the claims. There is no dialogue on the article discussion page and no warning on the user talk page (until I put something there). I feel this is lacking in communication and etiquette, when the edit appears to have been made in good faith, even if lack of knowledge of guidelines, which one must expect from a new editor. I feel they deserve a better level of interaction with the existing community, rather than a slap in the face the first time they have a go at editing. Tyrenius 11:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ...when the edit appears to have been made in good faith Since this is an obvious attempt to use Wikipedia as a PR vehicle, I'd say, no, this isn't "good faith." --Calton | Talk 16:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Andy Saunders 12:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia is not a resume service. george 15:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia is not a resume service, nor MySpace. --Calton | Talk 16:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete- non notable bio. The El Reyko 21:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. This is pretty obviously a vanity page. He probably majored in criminology and psychology. In fact, he's probably still majoring in it; he's 20 years old. JDoorjam Talk 21:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete appears to be hoax ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Extreme speedy delete, one Google hit which is not a Wikipedia page. WP:V supremely supercedes WP:AGF. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
non notable site. Alexa ranking of 1,012,378. Rory096(block) 00:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Not a site I know but the wikipedia page has had seven edits by seven different registered users. To me it suggests it has a notariaty - but a Google search is disappointing.Nogwa 01:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. That would be because it was tagged, probably by someone on New Pages Patrol, with a wikify tag and an importance tag, then disambig link repair came, which is coordinated by a Wikiproject that looks at disambigs and fixes anything that links there, no matter how minor an article, then David Fuchs expanded it a lot. --
Rory096(block) 16:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. That would be because it was tagged, probably by someone on New Pages Patrol, with a wikify tag and an importance tag, then disambig link repair came, which is coordinated by a Wikiproject that looks at disambigs and fixes anything that links there, no matter how minor an article, then David Fuchs expanded it a lot. --
- Delete Mac user, never heard of it. -Objectivist-C 05:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Obhectivist-C, I am begging you to please come up with another reason for deletion. "Never heard of it" is used by the "let's keep every article every written" crowd as an argument that AfD is a bad idea. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If it were notable, I would likely have at least have heard the name before, given the close-knitness of the Mac community. Alexa agrees with the NN assessment. -Objectivist-C 05:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Obhectivist-C, I am begging you to please come up with another reason for deletion. "Never heard of it" is used by the "let's keep every article every written" crowd as an argument that AfD is a bad idea. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, fails WP:WEB. Andy Saunders 12:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Another mac user, also never heard of it. Grandmasterka 17:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Andy Saunders. SorryGuy 17:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. I've never heard of it either. Nortelrye 22:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --MaNeMeBasat 07:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Originally prodded as a non-notable card game, but was de-prodded by the chief contributor. I've never heard of it before, the only source is also non-notable, and it sounds like something a couple of kids thought up at lunchtime. Vote to delete. AmiDaniel (Talk) 00:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia is not for stuff you made up. Gwernol 02:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NFT. dbtfztalk 03:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --Ed (Edgar181) 09:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:NFT. Andy Saunders 12:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator and WP:NFT. JIP | Talk 16:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --Siva1979Talk to me 16:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per dbtfz. SorryGuy 17:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete NFT ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete what dbtfz said. Nortelrye 22:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable editor of two non notable redlink journals. Rory096(block) 00:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Kukini 05:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. T. J. Day 13:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:BIO. SorryGuy 17:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. totally non-notable. Nortelrye 22:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the first withdrawn nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haru-Sari, on the grounds it was a non notable webcomic. I pretty much agree with the nominator's original points on this one. The webcomic can be found here and the sub 100 member forums here. Alexa gives it back 3.5 million for those of you interested. - Hahnchen 00:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Webcomics/Deletion. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 02:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC) [reply]
- Delete per nominator--thoroughly non-notable web forum. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 21:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Nortelrye 22:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete nn webcomic, 3.5 million alexa ranking.--Jersey Devil 02:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: I don't see the need to renominate. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 01:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is WP:NOT a cookbook. A transwiki to Wikibooks has already been performed at wikibooks:Transwiki:Lights Out (cocktail), and the author information recorded at wikibooks:Talk:Transwiki:Lights Out (cocktail). King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, as transwiki has already been performed.--blue520 01:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Sheehan (Talk) 02:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Kukini 05:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete nom is sound. Tyrenius 07:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. SorryGuy 17:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete if the transwiki has already happened, it doesn't need to be here any more. Nortelrye 22:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not such a blatant {{prod}}, I thought. Why not throw this one into AfD to be sure?, I thought. No vote. GTBacchus(talk) 01:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems at least marginally notable. Alexa gives it a rank of ~1500, which would suggest notability. Also formed a partnership with PR Web, as mentioned here; don't know how much that really means, though.Cheapestcostavoider 05:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Rich Skrenta founder and current CEO of Topix.net, and make a Redirect, or else Keep. FYI the anon user who started this page has made 13 edits all to do with Topix (e.g. external links) and Skentra. Tyrenius 07:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteIn my view, the site is nn. I specialise in Web 2.0; and have never heard of the site. Computerjoe's talk 08:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I had never heard of it either, but its Alexa rank is pretty impressive and seems to be mentioned by a number of reliable sources, such as the above and this one. I don't think Knight Ridder generally values non-notable sites at over $60 million.Cheapestcostavoider 18:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstain uneasy on voting a keep, cannot vote delete per Cheapestcostavoider (prob. per WP:CORP. Computerjoe's talk 20:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete A Merge with Rich Skrenta seems reasonable enough, but I personally don't think topix warrants its own article. Nortelrye 22:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Reasonable traffic rating; I recall running across it numerous times in searches. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Speedy delete and BJAODN, hoax admitted by author, invoking WP:SNOW. Stifle (talk) 15:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm guessing this is a joke/hoax. At least, that's what "du'due" brings to mind... Etacar11 01:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'd love for wikipedia to be a repository for satire and comedy of manners - particularly of this quality (but it's already found verbatim at [1]). Even if there was such a person - let someone write a real article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nogwa (talk • contribs)
- Delete per WP:V--blue520 02:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Good Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 03:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --Ed (Edgar181) 09:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - gibberish; if he was one half of "the most celebrated couple in France during 1910", he'd come up on Google. T. J. Day 13:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete but I giggled. Kotepho 18:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete You don't need fiction for such things - there's enough of it in life and history as it is. Tyrenius 20:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. It is a load of fartbusiness. Anthony Appleyard 20:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Funny as hell, I really like it, but it simply doesn't belong on WP. Nortelrye 22:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I wrote this as a joke. Yep. You caught me. I apologize...WP shouldn't be used as a personal medium for showcasing my insanity. However, thank you to those who enjoyed it! You can read more at http://www.myspace.com/molsontcat. Have a nice day. :) Boto0o 21:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Was de-proded by author, who runs the website. 32 unique Ghits. See WP:WEB, WP:VAIN. Delete unless notability established. GTBacchus(talk) 01:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete NN --Tbeatty 02:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Angr (talk • contribs) 17:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. if it looks like blogspam, smells like blogspam... Nortelrye 22:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep What's wrong with this page? It's just explaining what Ecoblogs is about. Abhinay.mehta 19:04, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Does it meet the criteria spelled out at WP:WEB? GTBacchus(talk) 19:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Ok it doesn't. I do apologise for not reading the requirements thoroughly before creating the page. I will wait until one of those criteria are met in order to re-add the page. Abhinay.mehta 08:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy keep as a withdrawn nomination. bainer (talk) 13:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The content of this page is entirely arbitrary. It doesn't really have a reason to exist per Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Everything described on it is covered in greater detail and accuracy on other pages. IMO it should be deleted and made into a disambiguation page that links to specific topics, similar to the self-interest page (which, apparently it was created in response to.) rehpotsirhc 01:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. Important and encyclopedic concept, especially in religion. Needs expansion, not deletion. Look to asceticism for an example of how an article like this could be developed. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep encyclapedic , not sure I spelled that right though San Saba 02:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep encyclopedic article. Sheehan (Talk) 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I will point out here that asceticism is a specific and well-defined concept with clear boundaries--it only means one thing. Self-denial can mean many different things. This is why it needs a disambiguation page and not a separate article with content that can only redundantly reproduce the content of some articles, and possibly exclude the content of others that might be related. We should note that Encarta and Britannica do not have separate articles on this subject, but rather use their equivalent of disambiguation to redirect to less nebulous topics. rehpotsirhc 02:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Making the article into a disambiguation page doesn't require deletion. You just change the text and slap a {{disambig}} on it. I'm not convinced that it should be a disambiguation page, though; "self-denial" seems to have a prima facie obvious meaning (denial of one's own interests), and what pages would it disambiguate? Regardless, if what you want to do is make it a disambiguation page, there's no need to take it through AfD. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- My mistake, I guess. I suppose I assumed that making an edit that would wipe out the entirety of someone else's content required an AfD. rehpotsirhc 03:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Making the article into a disambiguation page doesn't require deletion. You just change the text and slap a {{disambig}} on it. I'm not convinced that it should be a disambiguation page, though; "self-denial" seems to have a prima facie obvious meaning (denial of one's own interests), and what pages would it disambiguate? Regardless, if what you want to do is make it a disambiguation page, there's no need to take it through AfD. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I will point out here that asceticism is a specific and well-defined concept with clear boundaries--it only means one thing. Self-denial can mean many different things. This is why it needs a disambiguation page and not a separate article with content that can only redundantly reproduce the content of some articles, and possibly exclude the content of others that might be related. We should note that Encarta and Britannica do not have separate articles on this subject, but rather use their equivalent of disambiguation to redirect to less nebulous topics. rehpotsirhc 02:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No evidence of credible information Theccy 01:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless verifiable evidence of notability is provided. dbtfztalk 03:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:V and it seems WP:BIO. SorryGuy 06:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no evidence of notability --Ed (Edgar181) 09:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as per nom. May also want to consider deleting Michael Veroni, Stephen Dupree, and Kynan Pearson. Those articles were created by the same anon who created Peter Ong. Roodog2k 21:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, not Terence Ong ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I think the original author has some work to do on this one before s/he puts it back up. Nortelrye 22:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no evidence of notability. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - originally created as spam. No claims of notability and limited Google results. Wickethewok 01:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above. Kukini 06:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:NN. SorryGuy 06:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per User:Wickethewok. JIP | Talk 16:11, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete definitely appears to be spam. WP:NOT and all that. Nortelrye 22:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
nn filmmaking group. Maybe if they won the awards. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 01:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, plus it's a copyvio from the website. TeKE 03:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. MikeWazowski 07:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ' Delete vanity page. No sources, not notable. : ( Lonesomedovechocolate 23:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable, promotional. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 16:01, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Subpage containing someone's monograph on the plant Nepenthes rajah. Copyright status uncertain (to me, anyway) - it's an old text, so maybe public domain? If it isn't a copyvio, I still think there's a better way to present this information than as a Wikipedia subpage. No vote. GTBacchus(talk) 01:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not encyclopedic. Actually it's just one section (#38) from a monograph of 51 sections, plus introduction and footnotes. The whole thing can be found here: [2]. Apparently Danser, back in the 1920's, was the world authority in cataloguing and describing varieties of Nepenthes. This particular page is a straight copy from here: [3]. Why paste it here instead of just providing a link to it? Author has put a note on the page that it does not belong on wikisource, but there's no explanation why not. This is extremely technical, and I can't imagine it being of interest, or even comprehensible, to anyone other than a botanist. Fan1967 03:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It seems all the information from the monograph has been incorporated into the main article in one form or another and a link to that webpage is in the "External links" section. In answer to your question, the reason it does not belong on Wikisource is due to its publication in 1928 and the fact that fair use texts are not accepted. NepGrower 07:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, Wikipedia is not for original sources. Angr (talk • contribs) 17:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as I had already proposed.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 08:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Merge and Redirect to ONE Family Fund. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 18:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable vanity page The article was already speedy deleted once and then recreated. While the young lady seems like a good person and one who will do great things in the year's to come, I don't see this being worth an article (as of this point in time) Alabamaboy 01:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to ONE Family Fund --Tbeatty 02:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/Redirect to ONE Family Fund], if not delete. Andy Saunders 12:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to ONE Family Fund per above. --bainer (talk) 13:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to ONE Family Fund per above. --Rob 18:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete vanity page. Nortelrye 22:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Merge and Redirect to 69 sex position. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 22:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unencyclopedic listcruft. De-{{prod}}ed, so here we are. Delete. GTBacchus(talk) 01:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to 69 sex position as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of pop culture references to the Dirty Sanchez. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep, like List of songs about masturbation. Or merge. References to the number 69 are widespread and notable. But must have more references. Summer of '69, for example. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 02:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom--Tbeatty 02:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keepas cool list on a notable topic. dbtfztalk 03:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Change to merge, per CambridgeBayWeather. Don't know what I was thinking. dbtfztalk 07:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Is there something notable about a tv show saying "69" that we need to document every time it happens? Not even worth merging. GT 06:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Hawkestone 06:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per CambridgeBayWeather. SorryGuy 06:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per above. VegaDark 08:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. RexNL 09:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per CambridgeBayWeather. Andy Saunders 12:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Madman 14:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per CambridgeBayWeather. Grandmasterka 17:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete What GT said. Fishhead64 19:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete listcruft ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Lists like this are research materials for articles, not articles. Most of the pop culture references in many articles should go - one or two or three should be singled out, rather than assembling unfocused lists. Bhoeble 22:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge Per CambridgeWeather. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unsourced original research, for another thing. "The song Ninety-Six Tears is a thinly veiled reference to 69." Says who? "In the beginning of the movie Ernest Saves Christmas, Ernest is a cab driver. His cab number is 69, and very clearly displayed atop his vehicle." Er, they had to have some number. '69' is going come up 1% of time a two-digit number is used anywhere... Herostratus 05:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is the kind of list that wikipedia can excel at.--God Ω War 06:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or merge to List of sophomoric sex jokes that aren't novel anymore after you've had sex once or twice. --Lockley 23:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per God of War. Carlossuarez46 20:10, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy delete. JDoorjam Talk 04:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable person. Clearly a vanity page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgeccampbell (talk • contribs)
- Speedy Delete - CSD A7.--blue520 02:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete per nom. Sheehan (Talk) 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete per nom. Badgerpatrol 02:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
According to the article itself, this is a religion founded in 2006 with three known adherents. Two Google hits, both DeviantArt pages. I support their religious self-determination and wish them well, but... AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 01:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, unverifiable (WP:V).--blue520 02:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleting the article now will accomplish nothing. When there finally are several outside sources, all the work will be lost. Perhaps we can let this wait a month or two, and if you still think there's nothing supporting it, it can be deleted. Zack Green 02:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you can certainly save it in a text file or something, and you could always go to deletion review to get it undeleted if new sources come to light. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I understand that Wikipedia has strict policy, but can I possibly get a bit of a grace period to establish some sources for this? Zack Green 03:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. " it can be classified as a new religious movement." It can be classified as non-notable, and something made up in school. Wikipedia is not a bulletin board to publicize new religions. (Fourth one this week. At least this one doesn't involve worshipping anime characters.) Fan1967 03:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - become notable outside Wikipedia first, then we'll write about you. Andy Saunders 12:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, non-notable, vanity, etc. WarpstarRider 19:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, non notable, etc etc. Nortelrye 22:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is OBVIOUS fancruft and Wikipedia is no place for that! A BLATANT attempt at trying to pass this fanmade project off as something noteworthy! The One and Only 01:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Power rangers: Thunder Strike has also been nominated. Andy Saunders 16:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It is Fanmade but whats wrong with putting it on Wikipedia, People need to know its Power rangers fanmakes! Creator
- Delete Not notable. [4] CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete What's wrong with it is that it's fancruft. Look it up. Danny Lilithborne 02:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as mentioned above, it's fancruft. Sheehan (Talk) 02:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as fancruft. --Arnzy (Talk) 03:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- no evidence of notability. dbtfztalk 03:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as fancruft. Andy Saunders 12:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, non-notable fancruft project. JIP | Talk 16:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I say it should stay. I mean... why not? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.202.29.55 (talk • contribs) .
- Delete fancruft ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete. Above fancruft points aside, according to the article, the first episode would be released on 2006-05-25. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. — TKD::Talk 07:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 13:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
probable hoax, a Buddhist peace activist from Russia who lived at least 110 years, only google hits are to wikipedia. Thatcher131 01:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per above. San Saba 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and WP:V.--blue520 02:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. --Ed (Edgar181) 09:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as per nom Pete.Hurd 01:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was redirect, rename, or keep all you like, but no consensus to delete the article. Further discussion at talkpage recommended. Mailer Diablo 15:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is a minor factoid that belongs in the already extensive Indian space program page. User:georgeccampbell
- Redirect to Indian Space Research Organisation. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per above. --Hetar 06:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - it seems to me that there could be an article about this Indian government department itself, though what's in this article at the moment sure isn't one! Mgekelly - Talk 08:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, national government departments are inherently notable. The article does requires significant expansion, but that is not a problem requiring deletion. Also, this is a separate body from the Indian Space Research Organisation, so it should not be merged to there. --bainer (talk) 13:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename to Indian Department of Space or Department of Space (India) and make a disambig here. Kotepho 18:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename per Kotepho. The El Reyko 21:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and rename - Metamagician3000 12:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable San Saba 02:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Article is completely unverifiable. Let's see... they've got a five-member MSN group. "Good Time Lovers" + Austria on Google gets just the Wikipedia page and an unrelated personals site. Seems to basically be a group of friends hanging out together. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and AdelaMae.--blue520 02:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as NN. VegaDark 08:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Unencyclopedic. Bhoeble 22:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 13:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
found while cleaning up dead-end pages. looks like a non-notable band, created by anonIP 6 months ago and never updated. But, what do I know about bands. Claims to have one album, allmusic shows an album cover on an otherwise blank page. Thatcher131 02:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, seems to not reach WP:MUSIC.--blue520 02:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:MUSIC. --Arnzy (Talk) 03:11, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete Does have a stub entry in allmusic, and two out-of-print titles in Amazon's cut-out bin. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as above Pete.Hurd 01:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Article about a middle-school soccer team. Author blanked requesting "delete" but as there have been multiple editors, not a speedy candidate. Apparently non-notable.Thatcher131 02:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not-notable San Saba 03:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, non notable school soccer team. JIP | Talk 16:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable school team. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: complete lack of notability. --Hetar 06:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Could we speedy delete A-7 as an article on a sports team (ie group) that provdes no assertation of notability? -- Saberwyn 12:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable. Jesustrashcan 10:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep (No consensus). --Fang Aili 說嗎? 23:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This page is just the opinions of the users editing it and cannot be verified in most cases. OrangutanCurse 02:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for lack of objective criteria for inclusion. "A subjective list"? What? Wikipedia's an encyclopedia; it doesn't have a personal opinion on who is sexually attractive. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 03:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. The idea behind the list is legitimate. Objective criteria can be given, e.g. "explicitly described as a sex symbol in major media". However, the current list is unverifiable. Very few references, and none linked with names. dbtfztalk 03:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep per dbtfz, and cut down significantly until referenced. Probably should be renamed to something like List of people who have been cited as sex symbols for NPOV purposes, something along the lines of Films considered the worst ever. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 04:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete current version and start over using the format set out by Dbtfz - verifiable names only. I'm unconvinced this list is necessary as a category already exists. 23skidoo
- Delete inherently POV - and even if referenced, does the fact that one (or even three) journalist once called someone a 'sex symbol' make them one? Or would the references show that someone was widely regarded as such? That's impossible to reference. Give some examples in the article Sex symbols and leave it at that. -Doc ask? 12:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep because this list is very useful for me to locate celebrities in order to work on their articles. This list is popular and is good-natured. GilliamJF 18:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ? So try the lists of actors/singers etc - no reason to keep this. --Doc ask? 18:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete However, if we're going to excise this, we should do so with similar subjectivities such as gay icon. Fishhead64 19:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep There's nothing objectionable in the existence of this list; I might not find lists wieldy or especially useful, but that's not to say that others don't. If people don't like what a page says don't read it again; or edit it within reasonable bounds. But don't launch deletion campaigns because one's subjective opinion disputes that of another over who or what is sexually attractive. With respect to referencing, that belongs appropriately in the articles on the subjects themselves where necessary, and not in this (or indeed another) list. The hyperlink is the reference (or has the way the Web works suddenly changed and no-one told me?) ajf 20:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- keep -will become an interesting list as wikipedia agesSpencerk 21:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no way this can be anything other than original research, or POV ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete (or userfy). It'd still just be listcruft even if clear standards could be established, which they can't. --Trovatore 22:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete I'm torn like an extra in a Godzilla film. I like the article on a personal level. But if I look at if it qualifies...I'm not so certain. It is entirely subjective. : ( Lonesomedovechocolate 23:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Doc and Trovatore. —Veyklevar 12:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as a badly-defined list with completely subjective grounds for inclusion, i.e. listcruft. Stifle (talk) 00:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Stifle. Teke 07:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Listcruft. Delete, unless completely reworked as per dbtfz. - Mike Rosoft 21:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep, however I feel this list should be severely cut down to only include the most famous sex symbols, instead of being cluttered with tons of also-rans. PatrickJ83 00:17, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This article needs clean-up, oh yes, but if specific criteria could be given this would be a useful article. SorryGuy 01:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No assertion of notability of verifiability. De{{prod}}ed by author, so here we are. Delete. GTBacchus(talk) 02:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Yeah, I'm pretty sure the text of the article applies to all the guidelines I can think of except WP:MUSIC. TeKE 03:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, utterly nonnotable. Angr (talk • contribs) 17:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete No claim of notability, or readily apparent grounds for claim Pete.Hurd 02:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Vanity article, request for review removed DonaldMick 02:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia isn't the place for everyone to advertise their Internet forum. I'm sure The Alternative (Internet Community) would be quite unhappy if I went to their forum and posted irrelevant stuff about civil engineering projects in Minnesota. --Elkman - (talk) 03:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-noteworthy gubbins. - The One and Only 05:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Elkman. Harro5 05:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Elkman. SorryGuy 06:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Elkman. RexNL 10:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Elkman. Andy Saunders 12:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nom Tony Bruguier 18:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Vanity article my ass. This is a very well known place. I don't think GGFan would give a damn if you posted about civil engineering on there. This is a well known Pokemon community and needs to stay.
- Delete as per nom, and WP:WWIN, Soapboxing in particular. The article is also very poorly written. Justinhayabusa 20:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Elkman. Nortelrye 23:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article is poorly written if English isn't your first language.
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable fancruft. --Arnzy (Talk) 03:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 03:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - fancruft; This was next on the list. - The One and Only 03:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per above. SorryGuy 06:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. JIP | Talk 16:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, fanfiction. WarpstarRider 19:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fancruft. --Differentgravy 20:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 10:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I proposise this article is deleted because it seems to fall under 'Lists that are too specific are also a problem. The "list of one-eyed horse thieves from Montana" will be of little interest to anyone (except the person making the list).' from Wikipedia:appropriate topics for lists--Matt 02:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This list isn't a list of one-eyed horse thieves from Montana, it's about bands like Chicago, Boston, Alabama, and Japan. I think the criteria are decent, and it isn't hurting anyone to keep this list around. --Elkman - (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep I think this could go either way, but it's not doing any damage and it at least seems easy to verify. The external link needs to go, though, regardless.Cheapestcostavoider 06:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep though I'd support separating the real and fictional places. This is an interesting list and apparently not so specific that there aren't dozens of possible entries for it. GT 06:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Listcruft -Doc ask? 12:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, interesting list, not listcruft. This bands are notable. --Terence Ong 15:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as listcruft. The El Reyko 21:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Unlike some band lists, this one is both interesting and useful. Grutness...wha? 01:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Useful how? --Calton | Talk 01:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I do a regular radio show which is thematic. A list of artists named after places is very useful for that. I can imagine that I'm not the only person who'd find the list useful for that sort of purpose. Grutness...wha? 04:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The bands are notable, the list category isn't. Essentially as random as Bands that use the definite article "The" or Rock singers named Robert. --Calton | Talk 01:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- weak Keep. It's good to be able to confirm that "Fountains of Wayne" is indeed named after the garden ornament store. A "list of one-eyed horse thieves from Montana", though , would be a rather strong keep if it had more than three individuals listed. - Nunh-huh 01:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't that be better placed in the Fountains of Wayne article than a list? --Matt 02:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If the origins of band names is not an encyclopedic topic, then List of band name etymologies should probably be deleted too. One possibility is to merge this list there, but personally I think it is nice to have it factored out as a kind of sublist, as is common throughout WP.
Refrainas creator of the list. dbtfztalk 02:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Let me add that compared to List of band name etymologies (which strikes me as a perfectly appropriate and encyclopedic list) this list is more easily verifiable and more manageable in size. Also, the topic of bands named after places is of interest to a fair number of people, as a quick web search on the phrase (with or without quotes) will verify. dbtfztalk 02:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, who am I kidding. I can't refrain after all the work I've put into this damn list. Strong keep, for chrissake. It's encyclopedic, educational, and entertaining. dbtfztalk 18:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me add that compared to List of band name etymologies (which strikes me as a perfectly appropriate and encyclopedic list) this list is more easily verifiable and more manageable in size. Also, the topic of bands named after places is of interest to a fair number of people, as a quick web search on the phrase (with or without quotes) will verify. dbtfztalk 02:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep I tend to have a soft spot in my heart for semi-interesting lists. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:14, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Interesting enough list. Recury 03:21, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep as per OhNoitsJamie. – Jared Preston 15:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as blatant listcruft. Stifle (talk) 15:20, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep. I've been looking for this kind of a list for years. Very interesting.Royalbroil 02:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was SP DELETE (sole contrib's request and no keep votes) . -Doc ask? 22:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the list is too specific under Wikipedia:appropriate topics for lists Matt 03:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This one I think should go. Simply having the same word appear twice in a name isn't an appropriate criterion for a list.Cheapestcostavoider 06:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, delete, delete. Why on Earth do we need a list of bands with repetitive names? Why on Earth do we need a list of bands with repetitive names? -AED 06:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, per Cheapestcostavoider. RexNL 10:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete listcruft -Doc ask? 12:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, listcruft, unencyclopedic. --Terence Ong 15:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. The current form is non-encyclopedic listcruft, but it could be strictened to only allow band names that only consist of repeated words. JIP | Talk 16:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete listcruft listcruft listcruft. How many times do I have to repeat it? Fishhead64 19:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A bit useless since it focuses on name only and not on name origins/musical sound/anything more useful. Skabat169 20:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as listcruft. The El Reyko 21:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete as ridiculous listcruft. Whoever created this is clearly a moron. dbtfztalk 22:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As much as I hate this list, we don't need personal attacks --Doc ask? 22:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- He started the list and is making fun of himself --Matt 22:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, but that wan't obvious. But even after he created this awful thing, I wouldn't like to call him a moron. :)--Doc ask? 22:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I was just being silly. My "strong delete" is serious, though. (What was I thinking?) dbtfztalk 22:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, but that wan't obvious. But even after he created this awful thing, I wouldn't like to call him a moron. :)--Doc ask? 22:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- He started the list and is making fun of himself --Matt 22:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As much as I hate this list, we don't need personal attacks --Doc ask? 22:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Speedy keep per rewrite. Kotepho 18:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think this may be a completely fictional person. None of his records, nor the book he is supposed to have written, are on amazon.com. The article says Tammy Wynette was his third wife, but he isn't mentioned on her Wikipedia page, which has a section for such things. None of the links on his page point to anything that actually mentions his name. I can't find any trace of this "greatest living country singer" anywhere. It should probably be a disambiguation page, since there ARE Ray Thomases who warrant a page (such as one of the founders of the Moody Blues). But that isn't this guy. I don't think this guy exists. Carlo 03:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Hoax. It's a modified copy of George Jones. Pretty much all the details, including the dates, the wives, and even the title of his autobigraphy, are from Jones. It's almost word-for-word from the Jones article as it existed last October: [5]. - Fan1967 03:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Warning: DO NOT CLICK THE SITE LINK. It is a linkspace for ads; there is no real site. Just a money generator. SPEEDY. TeKE 03:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I didn't catch that. My pop-up blocker stopped the pop-ups and I thought it was just a dead page. I've removed the link from the page. Fan1967 03:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete with vengeance. --Saforrest 04:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete --Ed (Edgar181) 09:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate. May I suggest deleting the text and turning the article into either a disambiguate page for the others, even though most don't have pages yet, or into a page for the stub for Ray Thomas (Moody Blues). Carlo 11:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Or just make this article about Ray Thomas of the Moody Blues. I don't know of any other notable people by that name. The other DAB notices at the top of the page (the US Senators) are not real people. They're modified copies of the DAB notices that were on the George Jones page, as there were two senators by that name. Fan1967 15:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Remove article text, then disambig. Excellent idea, Carlo! Andy Saunders 12:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, WP:HOAX. --Terence Ong 15:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Disambiguate. Get rid of the Ray Thomas currently described on the page, and change into a disambig page between all the others. JIP | Talk 16:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Unless someone knows of one besides the Moody Blues member there is only one. The senators don't exist. Nothing to DAB. A Google search for the name finds this article, a lot of entries for the musician, and a bunch of scattered others. There's a lawyer, a few academics, a bit actor in old westerns, a catcher who went 1-for-3 in one game for the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1938 (his total major league career), an aspiring artist, etc. Nobody who looks notable. Fan1967 16:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, if nothing is ever written about the others, this can be replaced with an article about the Moody Blues guy. JIP | Talk 16:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I feel kind of sorry for the catcher. Reminds me of Moonlight Graham. You make it to the Brooklyn Dodgers, and get to play in just one game. Fan1967 16:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, if nothing is ever written about the others, this can be replaced with an article about the Moody Blues guy. JIP | Talk 16:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Is it okay to consider this one settled? Carlo 17:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed Article is now a stub about the flautist (I prefer flutist, but that's an old argument) for the Moody Blues. Recommend Speedy Close. Hopefully, some music fan can flesh out the article. Fan1967 17:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Is it okay to consider this one settled? Carlo 17:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy delete. JDoorjam Talk 05:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also Kevin Fey and Karl Fey and Mathew Petronelli. And the images.
An unsigned band with no albums. Does not seem notable. prod removed so it comes here. DJ Clayworth 03:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and redirect to Roaring Twenties. Note the author removed the AfD tag almost immediately after it was applied. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 03:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- And just delete the articles about the individual people. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 03:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You Decide. Wouldn't the Google hits speak for themselves? --Shultz IV 03:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Also, members Mathew Petronelli, Karl Fey, and Kevin Fey need their articles deleted as well to end this overpopulation of bandcruft by the artist's username himself. (Notorious4life 03:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]
- Delete per nom. Textbook vanity article. --Saforrest 04:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. With WP:MUSIC for the band and WP:BIO for the people.--blue520 04:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I find Shultz to be remarkably persuasive, and would like to subscribe to his newsletter. --maru (talk) contribs 04:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was SPEEDY DELETE nonsense. -Doc ask? 12:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Original invention (WP:NOT/WP:NFT.) blue520 03:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Nonsense. Joelito 03:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. does not appear to be noteworthy of wikipedia. Kukini 03:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete per Blue520. --Saforrest 04:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy per blue. SorryGuy 06:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was no consensus, no consensus, no consensus. Mailer Diablo 10:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This article is pure speculation and none of the information present can be confirmed. I vote to Delete OSU80 04:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Both the original speculation and objections to that speculation are authoritative and well-documented in this article. It's well-balanced, and it's a topic of interest. Why not? Deco 04:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Speaking as the person who added four references to the first paragraph of the article (and meant to go back and work on the rest but... didn't), I'm curious as to what is meant by "none of the information present can be confirmed". Hitler's sexuality is, like most things surrounding Hitler, a subject of interest, and if we are able to discuss it objectively and with reference to reliable sources, I think we should. —Seqsea (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Even though this article needs work, it should be improved rather than being deleted. There has been a long standing interest and a number of inquiries into this aspect of Hitler's life by even mainstream historical biographers. The topic was even covered in my high school history classes in the late 60s. Normally I would want this type of thing covered in the main biography but that article is already rather long and has already spawned a Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler due, in part to space considerations. Ande B 06:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note This is the third AfD for this article since March 1. Article was retitled on March 24. Both AfDs were closed as No Consensus. AfDs were:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adolf Hitler's sexual orientation Opened March 1, closed March 7.
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adolf Hitler's sexual orientation (2nd Nomination) Opened March 9, closed March 17.
- I doubt the result is going to change. Fan1967 04:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Legitimate topic, seems to reference reliable sources. Could probably use some attention from an expert, though.Cheapestcostavoider 06:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Seqsea, the nomination is pretty incoherent in respect to that and also in that it's the third within a span of less than two months! CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep good article, needs work -Doc ask? 12:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep has long been a subject of popular discussions and speculation, information seems to come referenced sources. I also have a problem (but not a big one) with it being the 3rd AfD in 2 months and latest 2 nominations coming from the same user (Mmeinhart is the old account of OSU80).--blue520 13:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, what's so bad about the article after all? It just needs some work and cleanup, its a good topic for an encyclopedia. --Terence Ong 14:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep speculation that is published is A OK. Kotepho 18:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment if I was gonna vote it'd be to delete, but given the way this looks like going, it'd be pointless. However, who the hell cares about Hitlers sexuality, and what cant be said in his own article about it, that it needs a seperate article all to itself?! The guy was probably a repressed homosexual, or at least bisexual. Big deal. Jcuk 21:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep pending good references ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 21:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment en·cy·clo·pe·di·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-skl-pd-) n. A comprehensive reference work containing articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous aspects of a particular field, usually arranged alphabetically. OSU80 22:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The discussion is real, and we can report the facts about the discussion of Hitler's sexuality, thus providing information for reference for those interesteed in the debate/controversy/whatever-you-want-to-call-it. (Keep, if it wasn't obvious.) —Cuiviénen, Sunday, 16 April 2006 @ 05:38 (UTC)
- The article isnt called The debate on Adolf Hitler's sexuality, it's called Sexuality of Adolf Hitler. OSU80 01:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The discussion is real, and we can report the facts about the discussion of Hitler's sexuality, thus providing information for reference for those interesteed in the debate/controversy/whatever-you-want-to-call-it. (Keep, if it wasn't obvious.) —Cuiviénen, Sunday, 16 April 2006 @ 05:38 (UTC)
- Merge with the Adolf Hitler article. Jesustrashcan 10:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That's at 81 K- about twice as large as would be ideal. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 19:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It is referenced and Adolf Hitler is notable enough to warrant subsidiary articles. It has long been a subject that has been discussed. Capitalistroadster 01:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep, as the article is now in better shape than last time, but it still needs more references. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 01:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It has non-original research related to it. History is not quite as verifiable process as the nom seems to think it is. We have to rely on people commenting. Keep also because it is an interesting topic that people may want to look at an encyclopedia to find information on. Ansell 01:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-encyclopedic. Could merge as a brief a paragraph in main bio. This certainly doesn't warrant its own article. Rklawton 01:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Why did you vote delete, and then explain that it could be merged? How close were you to voting merge? Ansell 02:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Notability of subject can hardly be questioned (pretty much every aspect of this man's life is likely to be notable). Article itself could do with touching up but is certainly not amongst the worst I've ever seen. Surprised to see that this page has been nominated on AfD 3 times in the past 6 weeks (presumably as an exercise in order to spur interested parties into working on the page?)- in terms of the subject matter at least, I don't see why this should be deleted, given the space constraints described above. Hidden Fuhrer: Debating the Enigma of Hitler's Sexuality should/could probably be merged into this page however. Badgerpatrol 02:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Badgerpatrol nailed it. The only reason I relisted this article for a third time was because I'd hate to see some 15 year old kid writing a paper about Adolf Hitler, after all I'm sure there are millions of them out there, only to include in his paper that Adolf Hitler was indeed a homosexual. Even a merge with the main page would be more constructive than having it's own page. There are missing citations all over the page. OSU80 02:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. My thoughts on this don't change: Unnverifiable pov fork. The topic is certainly borderline unencyclopedic, especially existing as its own article. If the content could be verified with reliable sources, I would suggest merging. This sets a very bad precedent for allowing every crackpot conspiracy bullshit to be treated with credulity. I'd like to think Wikipedia is better than this. -- Krash (Talk) 03:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Please remember the civility policy. Ansell 04:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I see nothing uncivil about calling a spade a spade. If anyone wishes to continue to red herring, my talk page is waiting. -- Krash (Talk) 01:55, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Please remember the civility policy. Ansell 04:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Adolf Hitler's medical health, specifically the Mental health and sexual inclinations section MLA 08:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or Merge. anyway sounds good to me.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 10:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems like a potentially good article, could do with a bit of a tidy and POV purge but it has some well referenced information in it. People must remember that just because a subject is sensitive does not instantly make it POV. But as I said, needs work. Maybe a peer review would be advantageous Localzuk (talk) 11:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Judging from the What links here, the content is badly integrated into the rest of the encyclopedia. This segregation may be the result of a lack of neutrality, or any POV in this article would develop because of its segregation. Not good either way. Femto 11:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Half the sentences seemed to have following them something like 'but this was unsubstantiated gossip.' The article seems pointless. Who cares about random accusations? MaxMangel 14:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as hard to verify, POV speculation. Stifle (talk) 15:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as hard to verify, POV speculation. Read also [6] about Strong feminine-masochistic tendency of the German people and [7] note about Otto Strasser. And at the end think about OSS - The Psychology of War [8]. The sources are not reliable enough. --MaNeMeBasat 16:57, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Do people not know what "no consensus" means? It means that the administrator can't take any action. Users can do whatever the heck they want, and so I merged the article. The fact that there was no consensus to delete is not a reason for unmerging. Gazpacho 18:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It is OK to merge this, after discussion on the talk page, but only after this vote is concluded. We don't generally merge during a vote, as it prevents people seeing what the vote was really about. --Doc ask? 08:10, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm referring to my merge shortly after the second afd. It was reverted with no reason other than "no consensus". Gazpacho 22:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, just make sure every sentence is cited.—thames 16:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete/Move this information somewhere else - having a separate article for this gives a large emphasis on one small facet of one's life and is POV. This applies for all the others that have had a similar thing. It is not a large part of their life, unlike, eg, Dana International. Would it be acceptable if there was an article Drinking habits of Pope Benedict XVI? because he drinks wine during religious ceremonies?ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 03:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If there had been reputable sources speculating on the drinking habits of the Pope - then yes, that would be a valid article. But there aren't. There is however a verifiable debate on the sexuality of Hitler (not just 'was he gay?' but was he impotent, and how might we understand his sexual psychology). The 'facts' may be POV, but the fact that there is a debate can be verified and reported. Here's a review of a notable book on the subject [9] which was reviewed in Britians leading History journal History Today and caused them to put a fascinating picture of the Fuhrer in Lederhosen on its front cover [10] with the title 'Hitler's Secret'. --Doc ask? 08:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was SPEEDY DELETE. Harro5 10:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just an article on student leaders at a university. This is not for Wikipedia, and is one in a line of similar deleted articles. Nothing except maybe the concept could be merged to the university's article. Harro5 04:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete, {{nn-club}} and {{db-repost}} (this triggered my watchlist.) Grandmasterka 06:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Advertisment San Saba 05:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as advertising. JIP | Talk 16:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as advertisement. --PhiJ 17:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as promotional; I don't think it's quite a notable enough book to merit it's own article. However, it's probably worth listing on Billy Barty. OhNoitsJamieTalk 02:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was SP DELETE crap. -Doc ask? 12:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe this silliness was first speedied, then recreated. It was a one-sentence stub about a supposed Germanic leader (born ca. 152). When I pressed for references, they helpfully added that all records were destroyed in the destruction of the Library of Alexandria. Perhaps thinking that this sounded too suspicious, a new reference has been added to a book which is no longer in print and copies are rare and in bad condition. ok, that's plenty. Delete, but BJAODN as a small reward for author's creative use of references and audacious assumptions about the stupidity of other wp editors. bikeable (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. From the team that brought you Infidel Iggens - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iggens. -- RHaworth 06:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete. per RHaworth and the Iggens association.--blue520 06:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, latest nonsense by latest sockpuppet of User:WoodDaver. Sandstein 07:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 23:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Casually written account of three movies, Shark Attack, Shark Attack 2 and Shark Attack 3: Megalodon. These movies do exist, according to IMDB, and therefore there is no reason why there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article about them. Unfortunately, it might be more productive to write articles from scratch than to clean this up. Delete, but my opinion might change if this was cleaned up. gadfium 05:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They really are movies? I thought they were descriptions of cut scenes from some game. Still, this thing needs a major rewrite. Let's wait a few days and see if there's some cleanup. --John Nagle 05:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I havent seen these movies, but they certainly do exist, and just by using IDMB reviews and descriptions, Im sure I could write a good summary. Take this down and Ill clean it up. Ill use this one as well, but Ill just uppercase and fix it up real nice. Let me have a few days though.--Pal5017 06:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I vote delete because, while I agree with others that this could be an article, neither the current name nor the current content are acceptable. Mgekelly - Talk 08:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I change my vote. Just delete this. Im too busy to give it a nice cleanup right now. Sorry guys. Or, if someone else cleans it up, my vote could change too.--Pal5017 16:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Nothing worth saving in this article, it's more of a movie review than an encyclopedia entry. WarpstarRider 19:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, on the sole condition that someone who knows about the series can write an article using verifiable information cited from reliable, third party sources, which from the sounds of things should be possible. If rewritten, move to a properly capitalised title. -- Saberwyn 12:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable company. Only 87 google hits, many of which are unrelated to this. And dont let the link fool you. The site is written in Swiss. Pal5017 05:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, per WP:CORP.--blue520 06:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, doesn't assert the notability of the subject. RexNL 10:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non-notable San Saba 06:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete if notability is not updated soon. Kukini 07:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Looks like it's a magazine that is distrbuted 4 times a year (4 weeks in april), their website hasn't been setup yet, and no assertion of notability. --lightdarkness (talk) 07:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above. --Hetar 06:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, good site, but not notable enough for inclution in WP San Saba 06:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: with only 91 Google hits and an Alexa ranking of 372,733 this site is significantly less than notable. --Hetar 06:49, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:WEB. Stifle (talk) 00:41, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable enough San Saba 06:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Advertisement Goyanks193 20:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: lots of members, but I see nothing that asserts notability. Alexa ranking of 365,345. --Hetar 06:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was article was deleted at author's request. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 00:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
David Smail is mildly notable, but each of his books do not deserve their own page. Mainly, because they are no notable, and they do not add any info of their own. They simply restate information from the David Smail page.Im also nominating his second and third books, Illusion and Reality: the Meaning of Anxiety and Taking Care: an Alternative to Therapy. Pal5017 06:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nom. Mgekelly - Talk 08:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the author has twice removed the {{afd}} tag. — Apr. 16, '06 [11:43] <freakofnurxture|talk>
- Delete all per nom. TimL 16:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep (but as new page without colon, see below). I removed the deletion tag as I got confused into thinking a bot had wrongly added it (a bot message appeared when I first saw the tag - sorry, that was not intended to be provocative. However, I remain puzzled as there are thousands of books that have their own page on Wikipedia, and I was not aware we had to argue about notability. If so, this seems an impossible state of affairs as its so subjective. I see many novels given pages, which I would regard as less notable than the ones I put up. There is of course no problem with database space in Wikipedia and so no reason to put all the books on one page. Putting all books on separate pages is preferable, I suggest, as it makes them respond to a search by anyone who does not know the author. It also allows them to be Wiki linked to. I have now put up a new page on Taking Care - an Alternative to Therapy. Again this was not meant to provoke, I was simply testing whether the deletion was caused by the colon in the title being interpretted as namespace. The new article contains more information. Will you accept my reasoning? If not, what is your reasoning for not using the advantage given by separated pages. While I accept that minor points of view are not to be given too much weight in Wiki, as against major points of view, books seem to be a different matter. By listing a book we are not 'plugging' it, so long as all books can be factually listed. By choosing to give only some books a page we are indeed plugging them, and on a very subjective and personal basis. --Lindosland 11:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok thats reasonable. You fixed it up, and it does seem like worthwhile information. So how bout a merge per below? Have the descriptions in several subheadings under the David Smail's Books section? That would make it even easier for interested readers.--Pal5017 15:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- merge with David Smail (same goes for Taking Care - an Alternative to Therapy) unless Lindosland adds such a detailed discussion that the main David Smail article becomes too long; the search engine argument is not valid, you'll find the book even when it's just listed on the author's article. Notability is not the issue, but granularity: As long as the material on Smail is sparse enough to fit on a single article (say less than 50k), creating stubs for every book is spammy. Create a section for each book on the main Smail article. Once the individual sections become too long, branch out via the {{main}} template. dab (ᛏ) 15:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll go along with that, and have just moved content across. --Lindosland 23:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I think this was a good decision. We made it easier for the reader, and we greatly improved David Smail's article. It was a good way to go.--Pal5017 06:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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