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Italkian

Why was this section deleted? It should be kept, but shortened with reference to the Italkian article (the quote should be removed). How many speakers live in Greece today? Less than for Tsakonian? Same for Veneto del mar. Andreas ^(T) 18:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Languages or minority groups?

In an article separated of the of the one about minorities of Greece, it's not clear why should be differentiated Albanians, Arvanitika and Chams. As they speak the same language (or the contrary should be explained and referenced), they should be put together (eventually, discussing inside the paragraph the language vitality of the different ethnic groups, if they really are different). --Hectoralos (talk) 18:44, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Immigrant languages

The classification of Arvanitika, Aromanian, Slavic, and Turkish as immigrant languages is incorrect. While the ancestors of modern speakers of languages such as Arvanitika and Aromanian may have arrived from somewhere else at some point in the past, those languages are native to Greece. They have been spoken there for centuries and they are likely not found elsewhere in the same form, manner, or dialect. In addition, the definition that the corresponding Wikipedia article gives for an immigrant language as one spoken by a community that has recently arrived in the country supports a different classification--likely "minority languages"--for the said tongues. Those languages, along with Ancient and Koiné Greek, are the wealth that a culture-rich Greece should strive to preserve.

I would appreciate some input and a consensus that would help us update the article and provide more accurate information for the Wikipedia community and anyone else who may be using and relying on the encyclopedia's content.--Getoar TX (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 In an article separated of the of the one about [[minorities of Greece]], it's not clear why should be differentiated Albanians, Arvanitika and Chams. As they speak the same language (or the contrary should be explained and referenced), they should be put together (eventually, discussing inside the paragraph the language vitality of the different ethnic groups, if they really are different). --[[User:Hectoralos|Hectoralos]] ([[User talk:Hectoralos|talk]]) 18:44, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
+== Immigrant languages ==
+The classification of Arvanitika, Aromanian, Slavic, and Turkish as immigrant languages is incorrect.  While the ancestors of modern speakers of languages such as Arvanitika and Aromanian may have arrived from somewhere else at some point in the past, those languages are native to Greece.  They have been spoken there for centuries and they are likely not found elsewhere in the same form, manner, or dialect.  In addition, the definition that the corresponding Wikipedia article gives for an immigrant language as one spoken by a community that has recently arrived in the country supports a different classification--likely "minority languages"--for the said tongues.  Those languages, along with Ancient and Koiné Greek, are the wealth that a culture-rich Greece should strive to preserve.
+I would appreciate some input and a consensus that would help us update the article and provide more accurate information for the Wikipedia community and anyone else who may be using and relying on the encyclopedia's content.--[[User:Getoar TX|Getoar TX]] ([[User talk:Getoar TX|talk]]) 23:32, 3 May 2012 (UTC)