Talk:Fin Fang Foom

Chronology

Fin Fang Foom's defeat by Iron Man came before his possession by Aan Taanu, at least in order of publication. Edit: The storyline started before his posession by Aan Taanu. The Legion of Night came out in October-November 1991. Foom's apps in Iron Man ran from October 1990-December 1991. So why is his Iron Man appearance considered modern? --Scottandrewhutchins 17:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Origin of name

Just a note that I added the origin of Foom's name in this edit. User Asgardian felt it important that no one should know this information until the issue of source could be provided and deleted it. --Kidd Loris 23:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Nextwave

I was flipping through "Civil War: Battle Damage Report", and it pretty much directly stated that the Fin Fang Foom in Nextwave was a clone. Could someone who owns the book make an update and reference? Night1stalker 17:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was stated that all Nextwave books were an alternate reality, thus making Fin Fang's Founderings irrelevant. Lots42 06:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought so too, but that seems to have changed the Civil War - aside from the above mention, the Captain appears on the group illustration of registered superheroes, and Machine Man has become a supporting character in the new Ms. Marvel comic, with both his Nextwave costume and personality intact. Night1stalker 18:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

:Volume 4 of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A-Z hardcovers says the Foom in Nextwave is a clone. EMFreyre 21:37, 7 Sepetember 2010 (EST)

powers and abilities

• What is the source or reference for the powers and abilities? I am noticing a more than passing resemblance to the Abilities/Accesories section for Fin Fang Foom in the recent Hulk vs. Fin Fang Foom One Shot from Marvel. Also, the Hulk vs. Fin Fang Foom indicates subsonic speed, not supersonic.

Demonstrative excerpts, "Fin Fang Foom possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift in excess of 100 tons", "His scaly hide grants him remarkable durability,", "...capable of winged flight at subsonic speeds...", "...can emit acid mist from his mouth...", "...is proficient with the technology of the Makluan race, including the operation of a starship."

There are significant similarities. --StudiosusTheologiae (talk) 19:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

why is it that in powers and abilities it say that it posseses superhuman strength if it isn't even a human??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.249.238 (talk) 20:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not necessary for him to be human to have superhuman strength. "Superhuman strength" is defined as "greater than human strength," which he has. 75.70.123.215 (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Amalgam

What's the deal with the repeated removing of the Amalgam version? It can't GET any more sourced. Am very confused. Lots42 06:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Relatives

It was revealed Nova #19 that Fing Fang Foom has a cousin named Fraktur. Maybe someone should add that to the article.

Nextwave Again

This seems to declare the Nextwave series is an alternate universe. I was under the impression such was not made canon. Lots42 (talk) 06:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

General comments

Rather than lump together all information that has ever been revealed about FFF, I suggest that his different appearances (or at least eras) be discussed separately. For example, as I recall his origin story does not actually say that he is an alien from Maklu, or give the meaning of his name--those were established later. (And could someone please provide issue numbers?)

The 1961 story was obviously meant as a one-off--nobody expected that the monster (it seems wrong to call him a "character" at this point) would ever be remembered, let alone analyzed in an encyclopedia. Afterwards the goofy name seems to have been remembered as particularly awful (Stan Lee mentions it somewhere), and eventually the moster himself began to reappear in the comics.

Nextwave is noteworthy regardless of whether it is in continuity. Perhaps a parenthetical note could be added to the effect that its "canonical" status is uncertain.Dawud (talk) 02:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Bad "egg"

In the year and a half since I added the item about an image of Fin Fang Foom by Adi Granov appearing in Iron Man 2 to the "In other media" section of this article, I began wondering, "Just where is this supposed image?", being unable to recall ever having seen it myself. The more I thought about it, the more I became convinced that there was, in fact, no such image – not in Iron Man 2, at any rate. This of course directly contradicted the source I cited to verify the item, itself a reposting of information initially reported by Super Robot Mayhem on Sunday, January 17, 2010 (I could not cite SRM at the time because it is blacklisted by WP). Although the author of the original article (who is not identified) declared that this information came "straight from the lead production designer [Granov] himself" (I suppose this constitutes the first strike against SRM, as J. Michael Riva was the production designer on both films, while Granov was credited as "suit consultant" on Iron Man and "conceptual illustrator" on Iron Man 2), I cannot determine with any degree of certainty at the present date whether or not Granov personally supplied the image and accompanying quote used in the article, which follows:

This was my design for Fin Fang Foom for the Iron Man Viva Las Vegas book I was doing with Jon Favreau. But this image in particular was done for the IM movie and used as a billboard in one of the scenes where Iron Man flies past it. It's very quick, but Jon wanted to have a kind of a cool easter egg in there. [emphasis mine]

Over the three days following its release, the SRM story was picked up successively by Comic Book Movie, Worst Previews, Comic Book Daily, The Movie Blog, MTV Splash Page, Cinema Blend, Comic Vine, io9, and Screen Rant. In some cases, the text of Granov's quote was altered from "IM" to "Iron Man 2". To my way of thinking, something seemed amiss. Why would an image of a character from a comic miniseries – rendered in the visual style of that series – show up for a mere second of screen time in a film that came out two years after the series' publication? It simply did not make sense. And yet, from conducting an extensive online search, I could find no conclusive evidence whatsoever of the image appearing in the first Iron Man movie.

This recently led me to revisit both films, paying especially close attention to any scenes where the image might be found. Lo and behold, it turned up in Iron Man. At 1:04:17, when Tony Stark is flying through traffic in downtown Los Angeles during his test of the Mark II armor, you can plainly see a billboard in the upper left quadrant of the screen bearing the image of Fin Fang Foom with "Golden Dragon Casino – Opening Soon" printed beneath. This ties the image even more closely to the comic series, in which a dormant Fin Fang Foom is imported from China and installed as the centerpiece of the Golden Dragon hotel and casino in Las Vegas just before its grand opening, only to reawaken and begin wreaking havoc.

From this, it may be concluded that SRM misinterpreted (or misrepresented) Granov's quote, and the error got passed along by almost a dozen websites – some of them generally reputable sources of pop culture entertainment news, it must be pointed out – much like a game of "telephone", which means that their reliability has been compromised and none of them can be used as secondary sources to verify the claim that an image of Fin Fang Foom appears as an Easter egg in Iron Man. Besides the film itself, the image is also featured in the Concept Art Gallery on Granov's own website with the caption "Fin Fang Foom: Special piece commissioned for use in the Iron Man movie. See if you can spot it in the film!" I realise that neither of these qualify as independent sources, but, all the same, I hope they are adequate for the purpose of merely indicating that an image of Fin Fang Foom can be seen in Iron Man. — Apo-kalypso (talk) 05:00, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I have also seen the billboard mentioned above, although it was at the 1:04:13/1:04:14 mark. If you want to see it, have your mouse on the pause button and be ready and quick. It comes after the driver swerves and is there for literally 2 seconds.