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greetings

welcome. i see there is some disagreement over your edits at Bill Clinton. i encourage you to discuss major changes on the Talk:Bill Clinton. you might also find it helpful to review these pages WP:NPOV & WP:3RR Derex 17:07, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mary O. McCarthy

Leave out your bias. The article is about her life, not the leaking!!!

Macwiki 06:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good wook on the Mary McCarthy page. As for the plea to keep out the leaking, her life is now pretty much nothing but the leaking. Evensong 15:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Obviously, the truth that she is a left wing activist meets acceptable Wikipedia standards for bias and accuracy. The same adjective is found in the Jack Abramhoff article and has been found there for months. As it happens Abramhoff is less of an activist than McCarthy. McCarthy gave contributions to only leftists while Abramhoff gae contributions to politicians on the left and right. --DaveThomas 16:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't mean the story of the leaking, I mean adding bias to other parts of the article. And as for 'left wing activist', she made a couple of contributions, she was NOT a lobbyist. Jack Abramoff was. (and just because one article is bias does not mean all articles can be bias. UnBias Jack Abramoff if it bothers you so much) I guess that Wikipedias standards would allow you to be called a right wing nut job because you called a someone a 'left wing activist' --Macwiki 17:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Lobbyist is not necessarily activist and vice versa. Abramoff was a lobbyist for both Democrats and Republicans. Your personal attack has been noted and reported. --DaveThomas 17:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the word activism doesn't work is because it is such a loaded term. If you wanted to broadly look at the term, both her and Che Guevarra could be considered activists. It doesn't say much when you use such a term and just categorizes the person instead of actually breaking down the contents of a person and their actions. Macwiki was trying to make that point but you took more as a personal attack (which I don't think it was.) Personally, I think what she did was totally irresponsible, but our responsibility as editors is to fully document and research everything about her, put it in context of the article and let the reader make that decision. You could for example put in the article that she has been noted belonging to the democratic party and has made several donations (listing the organizations.) --Unreal128

Standards throughout Wikipedia need to be uniform if Wikipedia is to be taken seriously. Accepted uUse of this term at the Jack Abramoff article. Like McCarthy Abramoff gave money to influence politics. Unlike McCathy Abramoff gave to both Democrats and Republicans. McCarthy gave only to leftists. --DaveThomas 18:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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	The reason the word activism doesn't work is because it is such a loaded term. If you wanted to broadly look at the term, both her and Che Guevarra could be considered activists. It doesn't say much when you use such a term and just categorizes the person instead of [[WP:NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves\|actually breaking down the contents of a person and their actions]]. Macwiki was trying to make that point but you took more as a personal attack (which I don't think it was.) Personally, I think what she did was totally irresponsible, but our responsibility as editors is to fully document and research everything about her, put it in context of the article and let the reader make that decision. You could for example put in the article that she has been noted belonging to the democratic party and has made several donations (listing the organizations.) --[[User:Unreal128\|Unreal128]]		The reason the word activism doesn't work is because it is such a loaded term. If you wanted to broadly look at the term, both her and Che Guevarra could be considered activists. It doesn't say much when you use such a term and just categorizes the person instead of [[WP:NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves\|actually breaking down the contents of a person and their actions]]. Macwiki was trying to make that point but you took more as a personal attack (which I don't think it was.) Personally, I think what she did was totally irresponsible, but our responsibility as editors is to fully document and research everything about her, put it in context of the article and let the reader make that decision. You could for example put in the article that she has been noted belonging to the democratic party and has made several donations (listing the organizations.) --[[User:Unreal128\|Unreal128]]


			Standards throughout Wikipedia need to be uniform if Wikipedia is to be taken seriously. Accepted uUse of this term at the [[Jack Abramoff]] article. Like McCarthy Abramoff gave money to influence politics. Unlike McCathy Abramoff gave to both Democrats and Republicans. McCarthy gave only to leftists. --[[User:DaveThomas\|DaveThomas]] 18:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)