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UEFA Euro 2012 schedule

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It is a totally redundant content fork to UEFA Euro 2012. Every date, venue and result information can be found on this article. There is no meaning to make a separate article for a schedule. Article also doesn't meed the GNG, as there are no independent coverage in reliable sources, which discuss the schedule of this competition. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 22:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

• Delete as per the reason above, the article content covered in main article on the tournament already. No need to merge.Seasider91 (talk) 23:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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• 169.587 hits in a single day say speedy keep and snowball close. Moreover, the schedule page presents the data at-a-glance in a userfriendly table format that is nevertheless not useful for the main article. Thus, the page greatly increases reader access to a specific data subset. Imho it would be a disservice to readers to delete/redirect the page. You may notice how I keep using the word "page" instead of "article", because obviously the page is not a full article by any measure. The question is: does it have to be? What's the harm in offering the reader a highly useful overview over this highly notable set of data? Why not propose merger or deletion after the competition is concluded? Why does it have to be right now? --195.14.221.65 (talk) 05:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  WP:ITSUSEFUL and WP:PAGEVIEWSTATS are not valid reasons to keep any article. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 07:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  My arguments provide an excellent reason not to nominate the page for deletion in the first place. Again: Why not propose merger or deletion after the competition is concluded? Why does it have to be right now? I also reject your characterization of my reasoning as WP:ITSUSEFUL, which clearly states that this concerns only !votes without argumentation. I did provide my reasoning for why exactly the page is useful, therefore WP:ITSUSEFUL does not apply. You may want to actually read essays before citing them. If you don't agree with my reasoning that the main article does not present an at-a-glance overview of the schedule, just say so. But please don't pretend that I didn't present any reasoning, that's simply not collegial or honest. --195.14.221.65 (talk) 12:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• Delete Euro 2012 already has the schedule information, but redirect could be useful. Brandmeister^talk 09:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Keep The article shouldn't be deleted, because it provides all information on matches timing. However, the Euro 2012 page just provides the schedule on a group basis which is inconvenient (because you have through every group to know the schedule. A.h. king • Talk to me! 14:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

There are separate entries on every match of the group stage and they contain the related schedule, see UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage. Brandmeister^talk 14:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It is more convenient to have all the schedule in one article. A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. We're not TV Guide, and the information is redundant. Ask yourself this question: "Will the information this page be at all useful six months from now?" The answer vhere is no, and therefore this isn't material for Wikipedia. Sven Manguard Wha? 14:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Ask yourself this question: "Is the page useful right now?" Then what's the hurry? Why not delete it after Euro 2012 has concluded? Why right now? --195.14.221.65 (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

the information is redundant -- Not entirely, no. The main article contains no chronologically sorted overview. You may argue that that's not sufficient to justify a separate page, but there is in fact information in the schedule page that isn't currently included in the main article in any form. --195.14.207.176 (talk) 09:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep This is really useful. Secretlondon (talk) 17:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  WP:ITSUSEFUL. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep Encyclopaedic information in a reader friendly form that Wikipedia does so well. This at a glance information will be as valid in 1,000 years as it is today. The only real question is where to place the chart - is it better in a click-through stand-alone, or embedded in the main article in a collapsible. Not really a question for AfD. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 18:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Keep Extremely useful article which I myself have had stickied in my browser for the past week. I can't fathom why anyone would be so anal as to nominate this for deletion. --Schcambo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  WP:ITSUSEFUL. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep I strongly agree that this page should not be deleted as it contains all relevant info about the match results. Trelos physikos (talk) 19:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  UEFA Euro 2012 also contain all the relevant info about the match results. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

  Yeah, but not in a concise and chronologically ordered format as found in this page. I think that his alone justifies this page's existence. Finally, about the WP:ITSUSEFUL, please stop quoting it again and again, by now we are all familiar with it...Trelos physikos (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep Needs to be fleshed out, but it is notable. Nominator's assertion that there is no coverage is false. Just Google "Euro 2012 schedule". Tchaliburton (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  But they only contain the schedule and don't discuss it in detail. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

  Yes, there is little in the way of analytical examination of the schedule. How does that render the schedule of the UEFA Euro 2012 a non-notable subtopic? No offence, but doesn't this all strike you as a rather pointless exercise at this point? What are you hoping to achieve? An AfD would have had far better chances a month ago, or a month from now. And you know that perfectly well, which once again begs the question: Why right now? --195.14.207.70 (talk) 15:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep THis is extremely useful and is not redundant at all: it organises the matches by date, not by group. Definitely do NOT delete this - it will be a huge loss of a very useful page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.68.75.29 (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

  WP:ITSUSEFUL. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Keep. I know WP:ITSUSEFUL, but still don't really think it's sensible to delete such an eminently useful piece of information. —Nightstallion 13:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
• Keep. It provides users with infos in one single article and therefore it should not be deleted. Those infos can't be found on the main article (time and stadium). Oh, and Armbrust, just stop with the WP:ITSUSEFUL, really annoying to see it under every comment, just because someone has another opinion. Kante4 (talk) 14:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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• *Keep. One place to quickly find match results, timetable etc. בורה בורה (talk) 15:28, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• Are you implying that it's useful? --195.14.207.70 (talk) 15:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC)