Talk:UEFA Euro 2012 Group C

Spain vs. Italy starting lineups

There are some errors in the Italian team line-up: as I have edited in the text version, Giaccherini and Chiellini played on the left side, while Bonucci and Maggio played on the right one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunoliegibastonliegi (talk • contribs) 19:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The image went after the uefa.com reference which should be used mainly. Kante4 (talk) 19:22, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

But uefa.com site also states that "Emanuele Giaccherini made his international debut at left wing-back" http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/statistics/castroledge/analysis/newsid=1814072.html Brunoliegibastonliegi (talk —Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't know for why or what purpose but someone is intent on printing the wrong information regarding the Italian football team's formation, for the benefit of those who want the correct formation....

..............................Buffon.............................

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.............................De Rossi............................

...............Bonucci.....................Chielini..............

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.Maggio..............................................Giaccherini.

..........Marchisio...........Pirlo...........T.Motta............

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................Cassano................Balotelli.................

Hopefully when the group stages are over someone will correct this idiotic and extremely childish editing.--The Mercenary 73 (talk) 18:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

UEFA.com MatchCentre listed Giaccherini as LM and Chiellini as LB. These sources: UEFA.com article, Yahoo! Eurosport article and ESPN article also listed Giaccherini as left wing-back. It's ridiculous that only one reference can be used, which is the incorrect UEFA.com Tactical Lineups PDF. I don't see any rule that prohibit the use of other references for the lineups. I believe wikipedia accepts multiple references from independent and reliable sources to support a statement. Surely this satisfies WP:VERIFY and these sources qualify as WP:RELIABLESOURCES. This kind of obvious misinformation will have detrimental effect on the reliability of wikipedia. My attempt to correct this has been quickly reverted with no reason and no attempt to discuss the issue. Now if somebody kind enough to correct the formation and the image based on these references, that would be very nice. Thanks. — 125.161.247.198 (talk) 05:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Original research

Next match day scenarios are not referenced and are a violation of WP:NOR. Dr. Vicodine (talk) 21:20, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

See the talkpages of group A and of group B to see general consensus for using scenarios Jack Bornholm (talk) 20:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

A general discussion about this take place on: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Next match day scenarios. My guess is that the consensus made there would count in all football pages so go there and say your piece. Jack Bornholm (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Mandžukić

uefa.com has Mandžukić with 2 goals listed so no own goal by Given, maybe they change it later on but for now leave it like it is. Kante4 (talk) 11:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Logos on Spanish kits

The logos are copyrighted and should be removed. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Scenario after the second round

All scenarios except 5-5-5-0 do not involve a three-way tiebreaker, so I only explain the 5-5-5-0 situation below. If Spain draw with Republic of Ireland and Italy defeat Republic of Ireland, the three teams Spain, Republic of Ireland and Italy will have 5 point each, and 2 points each and 0 goal difference each among the three games among themselves. If the Spain-Republic of Ireland match ends at a draw of 2–2 or higher, Spain and Republic of Ireland will advance due to higher number of goals from games among teams in question. If the draw game is goalless, Italy will advance with a higher number of goals among teams in question while Spain and Republic of Ireland still tie. As reapplying the tiebreaker on the game between Spain and Republic of Ireland doesn't help, Spain will advance (with Italy) with a higher overall goal difference. If the draw is 1–1, the tiebreaker on overall goal difference applies. Therefore, the two teams with the best results against Republic of Ireland advance.Ckhandy (talk) 20:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Italy's chances -- ambiguous?

This sentence looks ambiguous to me: Italy will advance to the quarter-finals if... they defeat Republic of Ireland by two or more goals, except for a score of 2–0 and the Spain–Croatia match ending 1–1.

Is the Spain-Croatia 1-1 scenario in addition to the Italy-Ireland 2-0 scenario (i.e. they are both "excepts"), or is it part of the scenario where Italy beat Ireland by two or more goals? In other words, is a Spain-Croatia 1-1 scenario good or bad for Italy?

Maybe it could be reworded as one of the following:

• Italy defeat Ireland by two or more goals (except for a score of 2-0) and Spain-Croatia tie 1-1.
• Italy defeat Ireland by two or more goals, except for a score of 2-0 accompanied by a Spain-Croatia tie of 1-1.

... discospinster _talk 21:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

If Spain and Croatia tie 1-1, and Italy defeats Ireland 3-1, I see that Spain would qualify due to its overall goal difference, while Italy and Croatia would be tied in all respects up to country co-efficient. Wouldn't Italy qualify at that point? Juve2000 (talk) 22:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I have correct everything and spit that between when a team win the group and when they finish second--Stigni (talk) 23:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)