User talk:Graham Beards

Mother Nature loves Fibonacci numbers

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[1] Archived why? Nobody commented on it. Till I Go Home ^{talk stalk} 06:09, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

• Nevermind. I can see that WP:FAC states that it can be archived if "insufficient information has been provided by reviewers to judge whether the criteria have been met". The article is now a GA btw. Till I Go Home ^talk 04:11, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Hello again. I hate to be a pest, but am I permitted to re-nominate this article for WP:FAC as it was "archived with no (or minimal) feedback"? Till I Go Home ^talk 13:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, go ahead. And, although you must not contravene WP:CANVAS, there is no problem with drawing the attention of editors at any relevant projects to the nomination. Graham Colm (talk) 14:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

William Burges

Absolutely no need to apologise. I'm just delighted that the article, on which so many worked so hard, made FA. Whilst I'm on, could you point me in the direction of the guidance on how an FA makes it to the front page. I'm interested to understand the process. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 23:18, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, you need to go to this page WP:TFAR. Graham Colm (talk) 06:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Script

Hi Graham, do you have Ucucha's HarvErrors script installed? I love it, and I think it would be pretty helpful for you when looking at articles that are under review. Keep up the good work at FAC, I love seeing your name on my watchlist :) Mark Arsten (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mark, thanks for the tip, I have just installed it, and your kind words. Graham. Graham Colm (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

fyi, this may be related to a discussion on my talk. Since you've got the script installed, please see an article that just passed in this state. And see the recent history for clean up I did. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 16:47, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, this is embarrassing – I've learnt an important lesson today. But I can't understand why these issues were not brought up at the nomination stage. Graham Colm (talk) 17:05, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you see this as important. I didn't see the nomination until after it closed. I look at what passes, what's dumped on the main page, what is currently called "our best". I have fixed this sort of thing in hundreds of FA, thousands of articles of all sorts. The problem is that these issues are not of much concern to many participants. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 17:14, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Glad you agree with us Graham, and yes you're a good editor and you do good work. It's not just how some get through FAC...the recent TFA Amador Valley High School got to the MAIN PAGE as TFA with 19 dead links in it. This week I came across two FAs with major problems. One has 32 ref errors and one has about 12-15 cite needed tags. I'm sure you'll agree this is also far from ideal.PumpkinSky talk 17:43, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

"Unacceptable" might be a better word. I am checking the articles I have promoted since accepting the job, for these errors. Graham Colm (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I have no problem using unacceptable here, esp with Amador. The two I allude two were promoted a few years ago, but yea, checking every one would be daunting 'manually', maybe Br'er can throw together a script for it. PumpkinSky talk 17:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

The large table on my talk is a separate issue. That's not about harv/sfn, it's about named refs, and their pitfalls. Editors create multiple references that have the same name all the time; it results in the first definition being used for all, which is also "unacceptable". These issues can be highlighted by proper use of the WP:REFTOOLBAR, which every editor is offered (anons, too). No article should pass any review process without these issues being addressed and fixed. I'll look over the rest of the articles on your list, tomorrow. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

For example, Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) contains two definitions of the named ref "AMGtC" and a "/" invocation:

<ref name=AMGtC>{{cite book|title=All Music Guide to Country: The Experts' Guide to the Best Country Recordings|isbn=0879304758|page=447|editor=Woodstra, Chris, Stephen Thomas Erlewine, Vladimir Bogdanov, and Michael Erlewine |year=1997|publisher=[[Backbeat Books]]|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=7Mo7xm-X1r4C&pg=PA447&dq=%22Red+Steagall%22+%22Here+We+Go+Again%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PGzOT7Vdxp7bBe3n5b8M&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Red%20Steagall%22%20%22Here%20We%20Go%20Again%22&f=false}}</ref>

<ref name=AMGtC>{{cite book|title=The Virgin encyclopedia of country music|isbn=0753502364|page=405|author=Larkin, Colin|year=1998|publisher=[[Virgin Publishing]]|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=wi_aAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Don+Lanier%22+%22Here+We+Go+Again%22&dq=%22Don+Lanier%22+%22Here+We+Go+Again%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=pXTOT5uGE-WL2AXY5cXSDA&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBA}}</ref>

<ref name=AMGtC/>

The second definition is simply omitted from the rendered article; they are all collated together using the first definition; see here. The first ref is presumably correct. The second could be fixed by simply renaming it. It is not clear which the "/" invocation should really be linking to without a review of both the article content and the sources. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:25, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Archived FAC

I saw that you archived the Kappa Kappa Psi FAC. What should my next step be? Another peer review? I figure it's bad form to immediately re-nominate, but I don't want something that I think is FA-quality to fail to be promoted because people don't review it. Sycamore (talk) 18:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

The FAC rules are "None of the nominators may nominate or co-nominate any article for two weeks unless given leave to do so by a delegate; if such an article is nominated without asking for leave, a delegate will decide whether to remove it. Nominators whose nominations are archived with no (or minimal) feedback will be given exemptions." I am happy to grant you an exception, but you must make this clear in the nomination statement. By the way, it's OK to draw reviewers' attention to the FAC as long as your request is neutral and does not contravene WP:CAN. Graham Colm (talk) 19:16, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for that clarification. I'll go ahead and re-nominate and post on the associated WikiProject talk pages to try to gin up some interest. Sycamore (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

I appreciate your spotchecking Grand Teton National Park...it is now featured.--MONGO 01:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Publishing the Dengue article

Per here we are working on publishing the Dengue fever article in the journal Open Medicine. Are you okay with your real name being used? The authors will be listed by number of edits which would make you third. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (please reply on my talk page) 17:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

No cost for publication at this point. The journal is covering it and I have applied for funding from the Gates Foundation for future publications. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (please reply on my talk page) 18:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks James, count me in. Graham Colm (talk) 19:12, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chinese Indonesians/archive2

• Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chinese Indonesians/archive2. Tks. – Ling.Nut (talk) 00:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)