Talk:Magnus the Good

Requested move

Please discussion the requested move to Magnus the Good at Talk:Harald I of Norway. Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Closed as no consensus. —Wknight94 (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 09:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC) There is at least significant cause to question many of the accepted points, in that the mere dating and deeds of magnus I's life are in dispute at least back to 850 ad. particularly with reference to the completely omitted attributed deeds that earned the title of "the good" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.169.94 (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Pardon? No one claims that he lived in 850 ad - what do you mean?--Barend (talk) 03:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Translation

The note at the bottom of this page saying that it's translated from the Danish Wikipedia article dates back to 20:22 on 2 March 2003. I looked over there on my way to get the version number to replace the note with the "translated from X version" template, but the header for that edit says "Based on an article by Søren Sørensen," so I suspect the actual source was what's listed as "Søren Sørensen (www.aerenlund.dk)" under "Sources/External Links" on the Danish page. That makes it a bit more complicated; clearly it would be better to make inline references to that source in this article. Also the Danish article is shorter than this one; this one has grown in the over 100 edits since. So what I plan to do is look on Norwegian Wikipedia for more info and rewrite it to be on the safe side in case there is copyvio, and get a few inline references in if possible . . . unless someone else does the rewriting first :-) . . . and meanwhile I'll import the list of sources and links from the Danish page so that they're there for info as well as in acknowledgement of where the page seems to have in part come from.

And I also want to get the names internally consistent and matching their forms on en.wikipedia. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Oops. Found the Sørensen essay at Min Verdenshistorie: Vikingetiden 735-1086 starting in 1024. This is not a reliable source, and the text looks at first glance to be awfully close to the English. I'm dumping it here as documentation. This article will have to be rewritten.

1024 Magnus den Gode, konge af Norge fra 1035-1047 og af Danmark 1042-1047, søn af den norske konge Olav den Hellige. I perioden 1028-1035 lever han i landflygtighed, men efter Knud den Stores død bliver han kaldt hjem og kåret til konge af de norske høvdinge, der har fået nok af danskerstyre. Efter Hardeknuds død i 1042 kåres han til dansk konge, selv om Svend Estridsen i hast er sejlet til Danmark for at gøre krav på tronen. Svend er søn af Estrid, Knud den Stores søster. Der er store uroligheder syd for den danske grænse, og i 1043 besejrer Magnus venderne i slaget på Lyrskov Hede, hvor omkring 15.000 vendere menes at miste livet. Det er vistnok den sejr, der sikrer ham tilnavnet "den Gode".

Hans stærk rival, Svend Estridsen giver dog ikke op. Efter Magnus' tronbestigelse er der talrige konflikter mellem Magnus og Svend. Der indgås et forlig, som gør Svend til jarl i Danmark. Magnus har nok at gøre i Norge, hvor hans farbroder, Harald Hårderåde gør krav på den norske trone. I 1046 må Magnus anerkende Harald Hårderåde som medkonge. I 1047 fordriver Svend Estridsen Magnus fra Danmark med hjælp fra Anund Jakob af Sverige. Svend kan dog ikke samle den fornødne opbakning, og det ender med, at Svend må flygte til Skåne. Magnus dør den 25. oktober 1047, vistnok ved et styrt med en hest. På sit dødsleje meddeler han, at Svend skal arve Danmark og Harald Norge. Hans lig føres til Norge og begraves i domkirken i Trondheim, hvor også hans fader ligger begravet. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I have now completed a rewrite, with references. There is surprising disagreement about many things, and the no.wikipedia article has many more details but no sources for several that I would otherwise have used; so I hope others can continue to expand this with references I didn't find. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Can someone take a look at this and translate and add any new information.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 00:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Done; it's a venerable source, although a tertiary one. Adds nothing new except that it enabled me to reference the daughter. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)