Talk:Randy Blythe

Randy Blythe

Just thought I would get a discution about this going.

Kholdstare666

Well, he looks like an Orc in that photo: 'Get the little halflings!' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.7.248.131 (talk) 06:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Roofer?

I remember from back in the Burn The Priest days that it was said that Randy was working as a roofer at one time. Is this true?

Yes, for a little while in 1999/2000. So was Mark.

Randy mostly did food service, though. [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.197.9.48 (talk)

"Death metal style" voice?

You've got to be joking. This is a total distorted yell, akin to the kind found in metalcore. --Ryouga 22:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's awsome, a one of a kind scream, not a distorted yell,,, no respect... Damn long live -Lamb of God- and the congregation!!!

I don't think that its metalcore AT ALL. --Iron bob 03:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

                                                        -Dhesil-

It's obvious that Randy is the epitome of the modern metal vocal style. The conjunction of the "cookie-monster" and prog-metal vocal styles sets Randy apart from his contemporaries. While other modern metal vocalists vacillate between a traditional melodic and a purely visceral style, Randy combines both approaches into a uniquely aggressive but melodic vocal style. Evidence of his recent vocal growth can be heard on tracks like "Descending", "Requiem" and "More Time to Kill". Nerdler 09:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)nerdler

Not metalcore at all... D.Mather 22:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Randy Blythe's voice cannot be alone associated with a type of metal, without the rest of the band's music behind it. You can tell it is an extreme metal voice, but that is a very general term. You may rule out what it is missing. It is missing high pitched screams of black metal, it isn't as deep when compared to singers such as George Fisher or Glen Benton, and it isn't as clean and "young" sounding at metalcore singers.--Gmunnywhiskers (talk) 03:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Bull whips?

He collects bull whips, which he "uses to great effect"? WTF does that mean? 4.131.51.168 16:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep thats true, I think its on the killadelphia dvd extras where it says he collects them and is shown fooling around with 1. C.Davis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.165.66 (talk) 09:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Walk With Me In Hell DVD, Randy sneaks whips past security in Europe. Willie wants to learn how to whip, so he's standing in the bus lot beating himself up with the whip. LOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.180.76 (talk) 17:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Really?

"Randy is the epitome of the modern metalcore vocal style"

That statement is the epitome of POV190.213.111.139 (talk) 04:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Real name

What is his real name? I've seen everyithing on this wikipedia page from David Randall Swayze Blythe to David Randall Pierre Blythe... nothing has ever had citations. Anyone know his middle name or can cite something? I am removing all middle names until we can get something cited on the page. He is a huge Patrick Swayze fan but I doubt that's an actual middle name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.190.138.242 (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2011 (UTC) His real name is David Randall Blythe. Contrary to a recent statement on wikipedia he is not the brother of Cody Lundin. They are, however, good friends. He was 3 younger brothers. TRUST ME I KNOW!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott's tots (talk • contribs) 04:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

It appears that the last sentence of the fifth paragraph has been vandalized and should be reverted to its previous form.

Blythe claims to have recorded Lamb of God's latest album, Wrath, completely sober, and now drinks non-alcoholic beverages
as much as possible, which led to the album to become and a commercial and critical disaster.[citation needed]

Xandrox (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

official publicist statement about arrest

http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/06/29/randy-blythe-faces-5-10-years-in-prison-official-statement-from-publicist/

75.58.121.23 (talk) 15:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Bail set at $200.000

Info here, including pictures from the court hearing. Waiting for a non-tabloid report in order to include it to the article with proper reference.Cimmerian praetor (talk) 12:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Content without proper reference for 3 years

I have removed content that has been marked as "citation needed" for some 3 years now. Here it is for anybody who would like to eventually return it back with a proper reference.Cimmerian praetor (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

He has a small tattoo on his hip that resembles a penis and two testicles. According to Blythe in Killadelphia, it was the result of him trying to tattoo the Misfits' logo on himself while drunk and passing out before he could finish it. He also has a tattoo on his left forearm reading COBHC, which stands for "Children Of Bodom Hate Crew" which is the name used by the band Children of Bodom for themselves, their crew, and their fans.

He has a great fondness for beer, especially Fat Tire, and for German digestif Jägermeister. In the Walk With Me In Hell DVD, Blythe said he would try not to drink as much as he usually did on the 2007 tour supporting the Sacrament album.. He was apprehensive about working with other bands that drank a lot, notably Children of Bodom and Mastodon. Blythe recorded Lamb of God's second latest album, Wrath, sober.

Ridiculous length and detail in Manslaughter section(s)

Does anyone else think the fact that nearly the entire article is now made up of several subsections covering this current event? I've done my best to reign in details and keep NPOV, but I can't keep up with what's essentially a single editor's work. --Williamsburgland (talk) 13:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that it is long and that the rest of the article deserves to be enlarge to keep up with it.

Considering that the last 3 days saw about as many visitors to the article as perhaps the previous three months, I think it is safe to assume that they were mostly looking for what the manslaughter section is describing, and thus it is not "ridiculous" due to its length neither to its content.Cimmerian praetor (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

One more note: as far as I know (being a metal/HC/trash fan) this is probably the first time that a member of a band was charged with killing his own fan (however involuntarily). This story is here to stay, and so should also the detailed section.Cimmerian praetor (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Williamsburgland, this section is quite lengthy. It looks like someone combed through the internet and did better reporting than some publications out there covering the event, but I think it's just too much detail for one event in an encyclopedic article. A lot of the "2010 Concert Incident" seems to be a collection of various opinions -- the second paragraph seems to be reviews published shortly after the concert. This section should really try to stick to the facts first and foremost, and use opinion and reception sparingly if at all. Fezmar9 (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Sources in manslaughter section

A lot of these sources are Google Translate links from various Czech publications of unknown reliability. Using Google Translate links is a problem for a few reasons: (1) we don't know how accurately Google Translate is translating the articles, (2) if and when Google Translate updates, we could lose both the translated article and the original article and (3) we should really be using the original article and letting the reader chose his own translation method. Most browsers automatically offer to translate articles anyways, so nothing is really lost by doing this. I also think it's a problem to see a lot of Czech publications whose reliability cannot really be determined. Since a lot of the exact same information can be found on trusted and well-known American publications such as Spin and NYT, I think the currently existing sources should be replaced where possible. I'd also like to go through and update the {{cite web}} templates. Fezmar9 (talk) 14:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

One of the ongoing issues has been the language barrier, though one of the major contributors seems to have a good grasp on Czech and English. Another has simply been the perspective of the reporting style - I don't know for sure, but the Czech publications tend to er on the side of reporting Blythe's responsibility for the incident, while American publications seem to take the other perspective. --Williamsburgland (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Being the major contributor: I am translating it directly, I am using the google links only for ease of whoever would like to double-check it.

Problem with most American sources is that they base their information on [www.blesk.cz www.blesk.cz] which is a tabloid. It is for good reason - this tabloid has the best coverage, it seems that on the Saturday court session they were the only printed media present (+TV Nova). All other printed media (or their online versions respectively) take their time in reporting on the issue (which may be also caused by attempt to double check information).

So far novinky.cz, aktualne.cz, denik.cz, mediafax.cz, idnes.cz, are all reliable sources. TV Nova is a bit sensational, but still serious media. novinky, aktualne, idnes seem to be neutral on the issue. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 18:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

To be clear, I wasn't calling your translation skills or accuracy into question, but it does create a reliability issue (as there usually are with current events and various news organizations competing to break the news first).--Williamsburgland (talk) 18:49, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I perfectly understand that.

It is a real pity that the serious media don't cover it as good as Blesk does. Apparently the Czech prosecution asked US authorities to prosecute Blythe in the US, but they declined any cooperation - I think this is rather a very important information, especially if the US authorities never relayed the issue to Blythe himself. Hopefully some more reliable source will cover this issue soon too. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 19:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Just thinking about the holiday - would it be too much to note that Lamb of God singer's release from prison in the most atheist country in Europe will be most probably delayed by public holidays, which celebrate the official acceptance of christianity in the country and the most important church reformer leader before Luther?Cimmerian praetor (talk) 19:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

SPAMMING

is there anyway of putting a petition link for randy on the page without being considered spam..i think it got deleted once before because they may have thought it was spam. There are alot of celebrities tweeting about it and i think it should be included in the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.115.65 (talk) 03:20, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Likely no, and certainly not for the purposes you're seeking. Wikipedia is not a means to publicize a movement or goal, so the only way to add it to the article would be to find reliable, verifiable coverage of the petition and add it using neutral language without calls to action.

I'd also note that while your intentions are good, it's unlikely that said petition will have any bearing on the legal proceedings. Even if it did gain any attention in Washington, the US Government has little to no influence over legal happenings in Europe. --Williamsburgland (talk) 04:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the response..do you think i could put a link from a blabbermouth source mentioning the petiton on it..im new to posting on wikipedia maybe someone can help me word it right — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.115.65 (talk) 04:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Now that last time wasnt spamming at all..whoever changed it is a jerk..if you dont want to contribute to randy blythe then you shouldnt be contributing to a page on wikipedia that is supposed to be dedicated for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.115.65 (talk) 20:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

That is misunderstanding. This is not a page dedicated to Randy, this is page about him.Cimmerian praetor (talk) 20:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

So why make a page about him if you arent for him. Who makes random pages about individuals or contributes to the writtings if they arent for him. I had a news source local news about the vigil and it got deleted. oh i see all your contributions are czech related so are you against petitioning for randy? is that why it got deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.115.65 (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedians don't write articles because they are "for someone", but because they have an interest in the person or the topic. If someone adds to Adolf Hitler article, it does not necessarily makes him anti-Semite. If someone adds to this article, it does not make him "free-Randy" or "kill-Daniel and the likes" person.

That information about vigil is still there, only the "scorching heat" and similar descriptions didn't make it due to Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policies. You are invited to add other reliable, verifiable, notable and neutral information to the article; especially to other sections, which seem a bit neglected compared to the manslaughter charges section. RegardsCimmerian praetor (talk) 20:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The mention of the vigil is there but the article for people to read the whole story isnt...it is a reliable, verifiable notable and neutral source..it is a local richmond news source where they are from