Talk:Saw (film)

Tagline

it seems common to put the tagline on movie pages quite some way down, why is that the case? I'm not sure it's really a part of the plot and the spoiler warning doesn't apply here either.

(clem 15:28, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC))

I picked it up from some other film articles, and it seems (to me anyway) that it's the best place to put it. It looks too disjointed when it's before the synopsis. Xezbeth 16:59, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

inconsistencies:

• how does electrocuting through the chains work? afaik for a shock the circuit has to be closed and the floor doesn't seem to be wet.
• Adam wakes up soaked in the bathtub and still spends the rest of the movie in his (wet?) clothes?
• dr Gordon is awake when Adam gets off the tub, how come he didn't see/hear Jigsaw dump Adam in the tub and then lie down? (maybe they were sedated and Jigsaw electrocuted them awake?)
• given how long the men were chained in the toilet, Adam would have probably found his key in the tub, therefore the ending of the film makes very little sense
• also: how does Jigsaw lay on the floor the whole time acting so dead and not moving so much as a muscle to breath, all with a certified physician in the room observing him. BIG omission on the part of director Wan.

EDIT: When Adam woke up in the bathtub, in the first thirty seconds of the movie, his erratic movements caused the plug to be pulled from the tub, and subsequently, the key was washed down the drain.

• Jigsaw's lair found by the cops would have contained enough evidence for them to determine Jigsaw's true identity (or at least positively confirm that he wasn't dr Gordon)

subtle clues about the story progressing:

• the dead body's tape recorder doesn't contain a tape
• Zep says "don't look at me, I can't help you" when Adam and Dr. Gordon discover the camera
• the opening credits/the key sinking down (but the key got lost, so the game could not be won anyways?) (also note connection to Mulholland Dr.'s opening credits where the solution is already given)

(clem 17:08, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC))

• no casing in the revolver when Dr. Gordon loads it. This means the 'dead man' did not shoot himself.
• when Adam and dr Gordon talk to each other, they are often shot from John's POV

• Reverted back in plot details, this page has a tagegd spoiler warning already, removing the element takes away from the article for those reading it in retrospect of seeing the film. xaosflux 12:28 06-Nov-2005
• X marks the spot. John is lying on the bathroom floor with his legs and arms spread out in a way forming letter X, therefore hinting that letter X has something to do with his body.--Gusiman 22:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio

The copyvio only applies to the trivia part; but the policy is not clear on how to handle this. (The offending part has to be removed from the history too, after all). Old Version w/o Trivia is on temppage. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Yoghurt 8 July 2005 01:25 (UTC)

Sorry, have found the specific documentation in the copyvio talk page. Removing the part is enough. -- Yoghurt 8 July 2005 01:32 (UTC)

RE: MERGE SUGGESTION

Comments regarding merging Saw (2003 Film) with this article:

• DON'T MERGE: The other article references a a differant, though related film. The characters in the other film are somewhat diferant, although the scene's are realted. Suggest putting a SEE ALSO link on this article. Xaosflux 21:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

As there have been NO comments, I'm removnig the tag(s). xaosflux ^T/_C 02:05, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Two Incorrect Statements in Plot Section

The plot area says two things that are incorrect.

First: 'Jigsaw' "abducts morally wayward people". 'Jigsaw' abducts the first victim (Razorwire) because he made a suicide attempt: I flatly reject that suicide is 'morally wayward' as that means it's wrong, suicide has many causes it can't be deemed 'wrong' as simply as that. I'm changing this.

Second: 'Jigsaw ' "does not actually kill his victims himself". That, too, is incorrect: if Zep had died of the poison it would have been "Jigsaw's" fault, the same for Amanda, the victim with the jaw breaker. Adam presumably dies in the bathroom, hence "Jigsaw" killed him. Also, according to Wikipedia: "In law, murder is the crime of a human being causing the death of another human being, without lawful excuse, and with intent to kill or with an intent to cause grievous bodily harm." What "Jigsaw" does is, therefore, defined by wikipedia as murder.

I'm editting both of these now.

Premium Channel

Does anybody know what premium channel Saw is on (HBO, Starz, etc.)?

Showtime

Similar to Phone Booth??

How is Saw similar to Phone Booth? mtz206 02:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

• Guy doing bad things is trapped by a "higher entity" and must play games to stay alive? // Gargaj 01:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler Trivia

In the DVD commentary for Saw, Leigh Whannell claims that an audience member during a viewing in a theater had to be excused for vomiting. While it is unknown why or at what point, his best guess would the scene with Lawrence sawing off his foot.

Plot details

Some plot details I found missing:

1. The previous victims.
2. The box with the cellphone and cigarettes + the cigarette "trick".
3. The warehouse chase where Sing dies with the guy and the drills.
4. Tapp being removed from Police, paying Adam to take photos of Lawrence being infidel.

If someone saw the movie it would be nice if someone could include them. // Gargaj 00:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

also, how did jigsaw electrocute the victims if he didnt have anything in his hand but the gun, and how did he press it without either of them knowing if he was ina spread position