User talk:Krun

Please post below any comments, suggestions, and requests you might have for me. You may use English, Icelandic, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, French, or German.

Chinese Punctuation Marks

I reverted one of your edit recently. Apparently, you don't know the proper usage of Chinese punctuation marks. First off, Chinese punctuation marks are relatively modern invention. Many ancient text did not have them. Publishers added them as annotation marks. So strictly speaking, the marks in most ancient quotes are not from the original text anyway. The 、 mark that you added is not a comma. The UNICODE name for the character is a misnomer. This mark is used like the : or ; in the English language. Some examples of usage follows (imagine the following text are written in Chinese and also note the proper use of comma in Chinese):

A list consists of：
1、item one
2、item two
3、item three

For Mother's day presents，I bought a diamond ring、a jet plane、a thirty room mansion。

I bought a diamond ring for her；she bought a car for me。

Please also note that hexadecimal entity does not work in older browsers. For compatibility reasons, it would be better to use the decimal value instead, e.g. #12289 is safer than #x3001.

Hope this clear it up for you. Kowloonese 20:20, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Cyrillic letters

I don't think you should move the Cyrillic letters to their Unicode titles. There's too much possibility of confusion, the cyrillic Ve looks very much like the Latin B. Of course the Cyrillic letter title should exist as a redirect to Ve (Cyrillic). -- Curps 20:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess it might be a bit confusing because of the number of letters that have exactly the same form as some Latin letters... maybe it's best kept as it was after all. -- Krun 20:42, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Changing &# entities to accented letters

Hi, I noticed you're doing edits to change &# to accented letters, for instance this edit to Zdob şi Zdub.

It is not clear if such change is safe. the &# is encoding neutral and will appear correctly when the pages are presented in any encoding, but sometimes the accented letters can be encoding sensitive and they turn into gibblish whent he user pick a wrong encoding in the web broswers. If all wiki pages are done in Unicode, then either way would be safe. Kowloonese 01:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

It's a good idea to get rid of these, but it's very tedious and error-prone to do so manually. I've recently written a bot that does this in an automated way, see User:Curpsbot-unicodify and Special:Contributions/Curpsbot-unicodify. Right now I'm running it on articles about Polish topics, but will soon run it on other eastern European categories as well. -- Curps 04:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Requesting comments on template alteration

Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments.

Your recent contributions

I see you've gone ahead and started working on the User instruments templates. I think most of them are okay (good catch boldfacing the skill words, instruments, etc., for instance). There are a couple of them that I disagree with, however.

• You changed the link on 'professional' in {{User instrument subcategory/4}} to link to the subcategory. However, there is a reason I linked it to the article professional; I would link the words in the other three templates to articles, if I knew what to link to (novice is inappropriate, for instance). {{User instrument/1}} is a redirect to {{User instrument subcategory/1}} and on through 3 (but not 4) because I realized after making the subcategory/n templates that I could reuse them; if in the future appropriate articles are found for 'novice', 'intermediate', and 'advanced', it will be necessary to un-redirect the user-page templates. But perhaps you feel 'professional' shouldn't be linked that way?
• You reverted my removal of 'the' from {{User instrument category}}. It's probably not apparent to you (it wasn't to me initially), but there is a slight problem if someone wants to use a mass noun (such as 'percussion'); in that case, putting 'the' before it is awkward ("These users play the percussion..." See?). In fact, someone does want 'percussion'. On the other hand, I don't think leaving it out makes the phrase awkward, so it's best to leave it out.

Ddawson 06:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

You replied:

I totally disagree with your first point. Linking the levels with the level-specific subcategories conforms with the standard used for user language templates (e.g. {{User en-4}}). There should be at least this much uniformity in the various Babel templates. It is also much more useful for other Wikipedians to get a direct link to the relevant category in order to see which other users play the instrument at this level, rather than being told what a professional is (most users are familiar with the word's definition and would, I believe, rather have information that is more relevant and specific to the skills of the user in question).

Actually, I agree with what you're saying. But you seem to be confused about the difference between {{User instrument}} and {{User instrument subcategory}}: the former creates the box on a user page and thus definitely should link back to the subcategory page; the latter, however, makes the box on the subcategory page, in which there is no need for a link to the subcategory page (a self-link). Nor is an extra link to the main category needed, as the category tag serves that purpose.

I may have caused some confusion by putting subcategory links on the /1, /2, and /3 templates; that was merely so I could reuse them as the {{User instrument}} helpers, as there are already a lot of templates. As I said, {{User instrument/4}} is the one that doesn't redirect, because of the link to professional in {{User instrument subcategory/4}}. In other words, the only possible problem is that perhaps there should be no link to professional anywhere, but I don't see any harm in it.

When it comes to the definite article in the instrument categories, I do find sentences like "These users play clarinet" much less natural than "These users play the clarinet". In special cases like percussion, one could simply use the raw code for the little green box at the top of the category and subsequently add CategoryTOC below, as there won't be many such cases. (In fact, that of percussion may be the only one.)

Hmm. Well, personally I tend to use either form. But I suppose you have a point. Very well, I will leave the 'the' in.

And thanks for your assistance in converting categories. Ddawson 05:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Chu shogi

Hi Krun,

About the piece names you changed. One (hakku) was a typo, but the rest follow Japanese Wikipedia. 反車 hensha <--> hansha confuses me, because I can't find hen as a possible pronunciaion of 反 (I only find han and hon), but hensha has its own article and is the only pronunciation given. 奔王 honnou and 龍馬 ryuume are specifically given as alternates to hon'ou and ryuuma, and seem to be the more common variants. kwami 02:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to make things clear: The Japanese Wikipedia does not show the names in rōmaji, only in hiragana. The free king's (奔王) name is given as ほんおう, for example. Proper rōmaji are meant to be able to be transliterated perfectly into hiragana or katakana, and the apostrophe is simply used (officially, I might add) to avoid confusion between post-syllabic n and syllable-initial n. Therefore the name should be written hon'ō, because the first syllable is "hon" (ほん) and the second is "ō" (おう), and not honnō, because this spelling leads one to think that the syllables are "hon" and "nou" (making the hiragana ほんのう, which is incorrect).

The piece is either ほんのう or ほんおう on the Japanese chu shogi page. Because ほんのう is irregular, I figured it must be the colloquial term. Presumably people who don't know the pronunciation in shogi circles would pronounce it regularly as ほんおう.

In the case of hansha/hensha (反車), "han" and "hon" are the only possible readings I get for the first character from my kanji dictionary, and here the piece is called hansha. I can only assume that the name is spelt incorrectly at the Japanese Wikipedia, which is of course no more infallible than the English version is.

If they spelled 反車 wrong, they did it both on the 反車 article - and several times at that - and on the chu shogi page. Somehow I doubt that's a typo. As for the English source, that isn't very reliable either.

The dragon horse (龍馬) is given as either りゅうま (ryūma) or りゅうめ (ryūme) at the Japanese Wikipedia, but ryūma is listed before the other, and since 馬 normally only has the readings ba, ma, and uma, I think it is better to put ryūma down here. If we had a separate article for each shogi piece, we could put the variant pronunciation ryūme in the page for dragon horse along with the other. --Krun 14:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

りゅうま is an irregular pronunciation. Given that irregular pronunciations are likely to be in common usage (otherwise people would just use the regular form), maybe you're right, and we should go with that - but to be consistant, only if we go with irregular hensha and honnou as well. りゅうめ is the expected pronunciation for that piece (め is the go on reading of 馬), which is probably why it's included. kwami 21:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

SVG images

Has the policy on vector vs. bitmap images been changed? My understanding was that SVG are stored for archival purposes but converted to PNG for use in articles due to lack of broad support in browsers.  — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

When an svg-image is used in an article, the Wikimedia servers convert it to png automatically, and it is displayed as such at the user end. No technical problems there. Krun 23:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Does that not put too much load on the servers?  — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't cause too much workload; most flags, diagrams, etc., are easy to process. Besides, in future, when most people have a browser with good svg-support, it'll be much nicer for print. We should, of course, pave the way for new and better technology as much as we can :) – Krun 14:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Þórir Jökull Steinfinnsson

There's been a response on him. You can delete this post if you wish.--T. Anthony 12:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Jesus

Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 22:14, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter featured article drive

I'm trying to get the Featured Article Drive going again on the HP Wikiproject. Check out Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Harry_Potter/Improvement#Improvement_Drive, I'd appreciate your input! Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 05:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Requested article

Hello, Krun. My name is Hatto. I'm from Japan. I knew you were from Iceland. At first, I ask you a question. Are you interested with Japanese culture and people? I want you to edit a certain famous person's article in the Icelandic language if you are OK. Please answer to me! (I can't speak English well.) Hatto 12:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

That'll probably not be a problem. Sure, I'll do it if there isn't extensive research involved ;) – Krun 16:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for answering to me, Krun! I want you to edit Masashi Tashiro's article in the Icelandic language, OK? I explain about him because you may not know him. He is a so famous television performer in Japan. However, he committed several crimes one by one and he was dismissed from the entertainment world since he committed a crimes (Sneak shot of a woman's skirt) in 2000. For repeated scaldals, he was chosen as Time magazine's Person of the Year by unjust voting in 2001. Now, his articles were editted in Japanese, English, French, Spanish, Indonesian and Chinese etc. May I request editting his article to you? Hatto 07:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

There just isn't any article on him in Icelandic. What is it you want me to do? Are you asking me to write/translate the whole article from English? If so, I won't be able to do this until after the New Year. – Krun 13:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd like you to write and translate his article from Japanese and English wikipedia or other information. Ain't you able to edit until after the New Year comes? Of course, it's better if you do it from now, but you don't need to do it. I'm so glad if you do it in 2006. Hatto 01:24, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hurry you, but when do you edit Masashi Tashiro's article in Icelandic? Additionally, I'm so glad that you edit his article in Danish language if you are OK. Please!Hatto 15:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Need some help

I already posted this on your french user page but i don't know if you check it regulary so i post it here to, could you help me with a little problem of translation on that page : fr:Discuter:Takk… Takk :)

Need a translation / Besoin de traduction

Salut! Je cherchais un utilisateur parlant Danois et je suis tombé sur toi, pourrais tu nous traduire ceci s'il te plait: Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Merci.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET) Hi, I waiting for a danish user, and I see your profile. Could you translate this please: fr:Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Thanks.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET)

Högisländska at the Swedish Wikipedia

Hello! I've left a message for you at your Swedish user talk page. /130.243.135.145 17:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Lofsöngur photos

Hi Krun - thank you for getting in touch. I took both photographs myself after a request. I've updated the files on the Commons with GFDL-self and have added an information box. Is this enough? If you need anything else from me don't hesitate to ask. Qwghlm 21:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Bird names

Hi, please don't move articles on birds to "standard" wikipedia capitalization. (i.e. Common Starling -> Common starling), consensus has been reached to follow ornithological convention and capitalize all the words of bird's name in a title. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Birds#Bird_names_and_article_titles for full explanation.) Thanks Dsmdgold 01:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been through your contributions over the last couple of days and moved the pages back to the agreed titles and recapped the names as above. You might want to check that nothing useful like interwiki links has gone in the process. jimfbleak 05:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't aware of this and until now suspected that it was just some private preference of a user or two. Still, I noticed that the project page you linked to purports to be a „draft“. And anyway, it's silly if it's limited to articles on birds rather than animals in general (or even all living species). Is there a common consensus on these conventions throughout Wikipedia's zoological „community“? – Krun 11:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)