User talk:Ubelowme

Please be advised that if you leave me a message here, it might be some time before I read it/respond to it. Ubelowme (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, Ubelowme, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Optional notification

Hi and welcome (back?) to wikipedia. You may wish to notify ArbCom of your clean start: Wikipedia:CLEANSTART#Notification_and_permission. This notification does not involve a public disclosure of your previous account. It helps to prevent future doubts as to the standing of the previous account. Bear in mind I'm just a random editor and my suggestion is entirely optional and you can choose to make no notification if you wish. IRWolfie- (talk) 11:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest and the suggestion. Now that I've reviewed them, I think I understand the conditions under which I should notify ArbCom and I do appreciate your having pointed me to them. I wasn't a contentious editor before and I very much doubt I'll be one now, but as you say it is best to prevent future doubt. Ubelowme (talk) 15:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ubelowme. You have new messages at Dismas's talk page.
Message added 21:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Dismas|^(talk) 21:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 06:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, such as on Talk:Dr. R.A. Vernon‎, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 17:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Username

• Hi. Your edits seem to be exemplary but is your username a pun on "you blow me"? It sounds like it is, and if so, that's not the best basis for a clean start. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm glad to know that you think my edits are exemplary. If you have a problem with my username, feel free to share it at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention. For the record, you seem to be the only person who has that opinion of its meaning. Best of luck with your future contributions. Ubelowme _U ^Me 15:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I think its pretty clear that its "you below me", which while also suggestive is not nearly so graphic. Especially with your superscript/subscript signature showing the positions! Gaijin42 (talk) 14:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

List of Defensive Gun Use Incidents

I saw your comment on the AFD. I have added some criteria to the article for inclusion in the list. Please review and see if this mitigates any of your concern? Thanks. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The criteria do indeed mitigate my concerns -- not entirely, but you have put in some thorough and thoughtful work and it has significantly improved the article. I certainly won't be unhappy if this article remains. Ubelowme _U ^Me 14:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the feedback, would you consider making your !vote keep or at least neutral? Gaijin42 (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It is refreshing to work with another editor who is willing to keep an open mind and review their original opinion. Quite often these debates become trench warfare, with no progress once an initial position is set out (a problem which I myself am subject too more often than I would prefer). good working with you. Let me know if I can be of any assistance in your interest areas on wikipedia. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I've annotated my !vote. BTW, when I mentioned the "stand your ground" laws, I wasn't specifically suggesting that the title of the article be changed; merely that that concept seems to provide a useful lens for viewing such incidents and it might be another worthwhile criterion for selecting entries for the list. Thanks for your comments; I do try to bring an open mind and I like to occasionally remind myself that the function is to improve Wikipedia, not feed my ego by making me feel good about being "right", an evanescent concept in the context. Thanks also for the explanation of "Clinton-esque", which did not offend me. An American Supreme Court judge once remarked that he couldn't define pornography but he knew what it was when he saw it; I have always found that an extremely unsatisfactory jurisprudential expression and I take comfort in precise definitions (as you have probably seen). Ubelowme _U ^Me 14:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

CKW

• dear ubelowme since CKW is now deleted, I would appreciate it if you omit or replace your earlier sentence "The writing style is so obfuscatory and bafflegab-ish as to render it too opaque for me to make the enormous effort to plough through it" by some more balanced statement as this can be read by anyone interested in the discussion about the deletion process. Thank you. Culturalknowledgeworker (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. My understanding is that, generally speaking, the results of AfD processes are meant to remain as they are precisely because they are meant to be read by anyone in a future discussion process. I meant my comment to indicate that I had a great deal of difficulty in mastering the material sufficiently to make an informed comment, precisely because I found that the writing style was so opaque. It is occasionally helpful to the closing administrator to know things like that because it helps him/her to assess the weight to be put upon my !vote -- in this case, I added the comment in case it would allow the closing admin to give LESS weight to my comment if that was merited. Since my opinion of the writing style has not changed, I'm going to decline further action. Best of luck with your future contributions. Ubelowme _U ^Me 19:54, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

• dear ubelowme thanks. Question: What is your academic background and your field of studies? Culturalknowledgeworker (talk) 09:51, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Absolutely none of your business. Our interaction is now over. Ubelowme _U ^Me 13:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Una Guðmundsdóttir

Hi Ubelowme. You !voted to delete. Your thoughts on the outcome? --Shirt58 (talk) 10:50, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. As I noted in the AfD process, I was entirely prepared to believe that I had missed something -- I find the Icelandic alphabet difficult to manipulate in search processes -- and I am happy to see that Wikipedia has gained a useful article for which I was apparently not sufficiently skilled to find sources. I look at this as a "no harm, no foul" situation and have no problem assuming good faith on the part of all concerned. Ubelowme _U ^Me 19:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

My Recent Mistake

I am truly sorry, I was using Lupin's AV tool and I saw your name and followed the trail. I'm sorry that I got that confused. Thanks!