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== No official 10 Degree! == |
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Both his ranks are not officially recognised by the Kodokan! |
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Furthermore are the organizations quoted in the atricle non of the three officiall usa judo organizations: United States Judo, Incorporated (USJI), United States Judo Federation (USJF) and the United States Judo Association(USJA). |
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They seem to be more or less, small independent organizations which are able to promote members as they wish. |
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To me it does not seem logical to rank him as a 10th or 9th degree judo practitioner based on the sources in the article. |
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"One can easily see why Gene LeBell would grow up to become the world class athlele, competitor and teacher he is."
I congratulate the writer(s) on the large amounts of effort they have gone to in their research regarding Mr. LeBell, however this article needs evalutation for NPOV. I think it reads more like an overture dedicated to Mr. LeBell rather than an encyclopedia article focused on him. 202.74.202.30 05:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
This page is taken directly from http://www.genelebell.com/bio.html - the bio on his official site.
- Which is why it is probably not written in an NPOV...This is an extremely poor article obviously written by a fanboy.--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 03:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- If it was obviously copied, the article should be deleted or stubbed. Zuiram 05:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I have added the copyvio tag to the article, as this is indeed a verbatim copy of the URL mentioned. Would've added the nothanks tag to the user's homepage, except the text was added anonymously. The same IP address (203.94.152.2) that introduced the copyrighted material has also vandalised several pages (such as Ohm's Law), generally by deleting material and/or replacing it with various statements involving the word "gay". Zuiram 05:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
is this guy 9th dan Kodokan Judo ? The Usjf has o authority to promote him as a kodokan judo player can they ? Only the Kodokan in Japan can do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.121.5 (talk) 00:55, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Gene LeBell is officially listed in the Kodokan Judo Association in Japan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.83.226 (talk) 19:48, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Seagal?
Did the story about him making 'The Great One' involuntarily empty his bowels get deleted again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.136.115.45 (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the story about Steven Seagal gettting chocked out by Gene LeBell is always getting deleted. Steven Seagal sued Gene over the embarrassment, and they settled out of court with Gene promising to never talk about it. However, Steven forgot to include the over 30 witnesses.
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Removal of Bruce Lee content
A number of apparent single purpose accounts have edited this article, attempting to remove any connections to Bruce Lee, among other things. They are:
- Leavelike1101 (talk · contribs)
- Thai110.49 (talk · contribs)
- Lebellshxt (talk · contribs)
- Shxtlebell (talk · contribs)
It appears this article has had content issues in the past and these kinds of edits don't help matters. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:44, 15 March 2012 (UTC) Added this user:
- IvanTillman (talk · contribs)
--Jtalledo (talk) 10:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Bruce Lee was NOT a student of Gene LeBell
For some strange reasons, user Jtalledo is so keen in adding the name 'Bruce Lee' into the student list under Gene LeBell in this article, despite failing to prove there was a formal teacher/student relationship between them after multiple interrogations.
Every source user Jtalledo refers to only shows that they were training partners.
Here are the factors which need to be considered:
(1) Bruce Lee never acknowledged, in any way, that he had a teacher and student relationship with Gene LeBell.
No one is more qualified than Bruce Lee himself to say whether Bruce Lee was a student of Gene LeBell. If Bruce Lee never acknowledged it, nobody can say he was.
(2) Bruce Lee's students only mentioned that they trained with each other for some time.
Though they might have learnt something from each other, but that does not necessarily lead to a teacher and student to one another, and there's no evidence of Bruce Lee ever calling Gene LeBell teacher.
(3) Bruce Lee in fact never talked about Gene LeBell at all.
It's not even known whether Bruce Lee agree with any of what Gene LeBell showed him.
(4) Gene LeBell himself talked in various events that he taught Bruce Lee grappling and Bruce Lee taught him other techniques in return.
So, if one tag Bruce Lee as Gene LeBell's student, then one also has to tag Bruce Lee as Gene LeBell's teacher. If Bruce Lee's name is not listed as Gene LeBell's teacher, neither should it be listed as his student.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by GregTillman (talk • contribs) 05:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
No official 10 Degree!
Both his ranks are not officially recognised by the Kodokan! Furthermore are the organizations quoted in the atricle non of the three officiall usa judo organizations: United States Judo, Incorporated (USJI), United States Judo Federation (USJF) and the United States Judo Association(USJA). They seem to be more or less, small independent organizations which are able to promote members as they wish. To me it does not seem logical to rank him as a 10th or 9th degree judo practitioner based on the sources in the article.
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