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August 17

Multiple Infoboxes

Let's say I want to create an article that fits the scope of two or more infoboxes, for example a bridge on the National Register of Historic Places. Should I use the NRHP infobox or the bridge infobox or both? Thanks in advance! Americanfreedom (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

For your example, see Template:Infobox NRHP#Embedding for how to use both. See Brooklyn Bridge for an example of use. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Do I create draft article in 'user page' or 'sandbox'?

Hello, I'm writing a draft of a potential article (biographical). I don't want it to go for any formal review until I have finished it, although I would welcome people looking at progress and making suggestions/adding things. There is also a conflict of interest issue as I was related to the subject. So do I write it on the 'user page' or make a 'sandbox' page? Or would it be better to just write it in Word and transfer it later? What I don't understand is whether a work-in-progress can be seen by other people, and if so, at what point? There are references to the subject in other Wikipedia articles - the name appears in red - will these become live links to the article-in-progress, or only when or if the article is approved for publication? Thanks TuttiFruttiCherryPie (talk) 02:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage at User:TuttiFruttiCherryPie should remain about you. A sandbox would therefore be best. You can put it under whatever title you want while you're working on it. So either User:TuttiFruttiCherryPie/sandbox or User:TuttiFruttiCherryPie/John Doe would be fine (replacing John Doe with the subject's actual name). Those links will only turn blue when the article is moved to the main article space. While conflicts of interest are avoided, they aren't totally prohibited. It's just that most people find it hard to write objectively about someone they know. See WP:COI for more on that. While the article is in your sandbox, anyone can see it and edit it. Generally other editors won't touch it unless there is some glaring problem with it that is affecting other main article space articles. Or if you are making claims that you cannot back up with sources. For the most part, editing someone's sandbox uninvited is considered rude. I think that covers everything you asked... Dismas|^(talk) 02:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your prompt & full reply TuttiFruttiCherryPie (talk) 10:53, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

All saved edits are immediately visible to everybody but there are places few people will look without being asked. A user subpage like Dismas suggests is possible but for a new user wanting to create an article, I recommend you use Wikipedia:Article wizard instead. It helps you get started and places a noindex tag to avoid search engine indexing of the draft. Click "Create new article draft" and not "Create submission for review" when you get to that choice. Then you can work on the draft and ask for help before submitting for review. Red links in articles will not link to the draft and it will not be in mainspace which is where the "live" Wikipedia articles reside. If your submission is accepted then the reviewer will move it to mainspace where the red links will change to blue links to the new article. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:50, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your reply and this suggestion TuttiFruttiCherryPie (talk) 10:53, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

ISBN

Most books listed in Google Books, etc. have two ISBN numbers. For example: This book lists ISBN 1576074226, 9781576074220. What is the difference? Which one (or both?) should be used in a citation template? I have usually taken the first one; but I have a nagging suspicion that the existence of two ISBN numbers actually means something. The article International Standard Book Number has not enlightened me. --Amble (talk) 07:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:ISBN says you should use the second one (the 13-digit one). - Purplewowies (talk) 07:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I had not found my way to that guideline page. It sounds as though 13-digit is technically preferable, but 10-digit identifies the work just as well, and there's no reason to cite both. In that case, I'll go with the 13-digit one from now on. Thanks. --Amble (talk) 18:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Indira Parthasarthy

Please delete the article Indira Parthasarthy as the subject has asked for its deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.1.75 (talk) 08:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

That's a pretty contentious thing here. I'll see what I can do. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 08:15, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

We would need proof that the person requesting the deletion is in fact the subject and a valid reason for the request. See Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject) for guidance. Roger (talk) 08:46, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Image provided by a company for use in a press pack

I would like to use an image from a press pack provided on the page: http://www.sjm.com/corporate/media-room/media-kits/patient-conditions-and-therapies/pns-for-chronic-migraine.aspx The company allows use of it if a credit is written below it. The company says on the media relations webpage above "Credit any images and video as follows: Images or video provided courtesy of St. Jude Medical, Inc." I tried uploading it under fair use and ticked the box about it being from a press pack, but it has been rejected. Can this image be accepted under any circumstances? It's a perfect illustration and is free to use if the credit is added. I'd appreciate any advice. Pnsmigraine (talk) 08:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I do not believe hosting of this image is permissible under our fair use policy as it is replaceable by a free equivalent image, either existing or which could be created.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:16, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you told us in which article you want to use the image and what purpose would be served by the image in the article. Otherwise it is impossible to tell whether the use is acceptable under fair use or not. But the image here is unlikely to be acceptable in any article per what Fuhghettaboutit said above. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help. The article I would like to add the image to is Occipital nerve stimulation which describes a medical therapy. This picture perfectly illustrates the concept for the reader. I've not been able to find a copyright free image which can replace it Pnsmigraine (talk) 13:23, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

That image fails NFCC#1 because it is theoretically possible to create a free equivalent. WP:NFCC is quite restrictive when someone with the necessary skills and tools could be expected to create a free equivalent that would serve the same purpose. That seems to be the case here, so I am sorry, I fear a use of that image is unacceptable. However you could try to ask the copyright holder to donate the image as described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:36, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You could ask at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab whether someone over there can create a free image to be used in place of the one from the website. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Internal consistency error

Hi.

I have trouble seeing, reverting or uploading a new version of File:Windows 8 start screen.png. All attempts yield either of the following error messages:

1.

The file "mwstore://local-multiwrite/local-public/f/f3/Windows_8_start_screen.png" is in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends

2.

Error generating thumbnail

Error creating thumbnail: convert: no decode delegate for this image format `/a/magick-tmp/magick-XX1PE8VR' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532. convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_4d7e1e0-1.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2970.

What's wrong?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 11:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I see it just fine. Maybe it's a problem at your end. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:59, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 102#Error when deleting files: "inconsistent state within the internal storage backends". Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

word pronounciation

Hello Is it possible to create a tool to be able to right click a highlighted word and have it sounded out. I love this site, thank you and all of those involved, for doing a great job. Mike Bruning 12:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)12:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)~ :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeflyer4 (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately we don't have such a feature, but you might be able to request someone create an extension for Mediawiki to do that here (note that this is a separate website, and while the page does state that it's not the best place to make such a request, it's a good launching point to start from), or contact one of the users in this category to make a widget for it. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 15:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)

You look Russian article Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) and understand everything would just like to have the same pictures as well as here but the photo in the frame of change is not necessary! I need help --90.155.142.140 (talk) 13:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Look, we have tried telling you again and again, policy is different here, and the changes you want just don't conform to our policies. Either stop trying, or get a longer block. Mdann52 (talk) 16:27, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Declined Article

Hi, I submitted an article on the book Believeniks!: 2005: The Year We Wrote a Book About The Mets, by Jonathan Lethem and Christopher Sorrentino. It was initially declined because it was poorly sourced; I added citations listing independent references referring directly to the subject of the article and the claims made in the article, and it was declined again. This time, it was because of the sourcing (which baffles me) and because of the notability of the subject. The book is manifestly notable in that it is a novel written by Jonathan Lethem, who is demonstrably one of the most important (and well-known) writers in America. The sources include a well-known New York newspaper, a well-known magazine, and an online newsletter published by MediaBistro and closely watched by members of the publishing industry. I wrote to the editor and have not heard back from him(?). I would like to know what, exactly, is expected of sources other than independence, relevance, and confirmability. I am also interested in knowing by what standard "notability" is measured if the global renown of the author of the book in question is not sufficient to establish it. Thank you.

69.119.59.55 (talk) 14:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Notability is not inherited. A notable author can write a non-notable book, just as a non-notable author can write a notable book. The notability of each work is judged separately; see our standards for notability of books. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Please give us a link to your draft article, we might be able to help you with specific advice. Roger (talk) 18:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I would guess it's Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Believeniks! 2005: The Year We Wrote a Book About the Mets.--ukexpat (talk) 18:59, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Unnecessary italic title

Why is the title of Amanda Overmyer in italics when you go to the article? And how do you fix it? 2001:18E8:2:1020:9000:A702:ABA8:C638 (talk) 14:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Because the article includes an infobox about one of her albums, and unless instructed otherwise, {{infobox album}} assumes that the whole article is about an album and should therefore have an italicised title. I have fixed this by adding "| Italic title= no" in the appropriate spot. Thanks for drawing this to our attention. Bencherlite^Talk 15:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

family history

Sorry but came onto this site whilst searching family history I was trying to read into some information on baronets and it brought me to this page for access - am I doing something wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adette2338 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 15:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Churches

Is there a notability guideline regarding churches? The only thing I found along those lines was this discussion. Americanfreedom (talk) 18:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Not that I can find, so I think you have to fall back on WP:GNG and WP:N. You may get a better response on the talk page of one of the relevant Wikiprojects such as WP:WPARCH or WP:Christianity.--ukexpat (talk) 18:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

(ec)Churches would rely on the notability requirements for either organisations or buildings but there isn't one for buildings so the general notability guideline applies if the article is of a church "as a building". Roger (talk) 18:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Lenzie

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Hi Would it be possible to stop editing to lenzie scout group on the Lenzie page as although an ex scout leader is under investigation by the the police Lenzie scouts are trying to stop it from sticking to their name if it could be stopped the editing of this page the scout group would be very grateful Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.8.56 (talk) 19:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The scout group has a conflict of interest. If it's a notable enough thing to be included in the article, it should be included. There hasn't been persistent vandalism or edit warring that I can see, so there's no reason to protect it just because the scout group only wants positive things about the scout group in the article. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

From the source cited: "Police have told parents they have no reason to believe children involved with the Scout group have been the victim of abuse.". As someone with no conflict of interest, I don't think that mention of this incident belongs in the article. If I were planning to visit Lenzie and wanted to know all about it, I would think this police investigation irrelevant. Maproom (talk) 08:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Hydrocephalus article

I'm not a great writer and I don't plan on doing any editing personally.

I am the state chapter director for North Carolina, for the Pediatric Hydrocephalus Foundation. I have a 20 month old little girl living with hydrocephalus.

I absolutely hate the picture of the dead infant on the hydrocephalus page. While death is a very real possibility for those with hydrocephalus, it does not best represent the majority of those who have it in modern times.

I would like this picture to be removed or at least more pictures added of people who are living and thriving while having hydrocephalus.

As a parent advocate, this picture is NOT the first thing I want expectant parents to see when they Google "hydrocephalus" for the first time.

Any help or advice on how to get this changed would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lddewar (talk • contribs) 20:15, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I suggest expressing your concerns at Talk:Hydrocephalus. Keep an eye on any responses (see WP:WATCH for information about putting the article on your watch list}. It's a medical article; some editors familiar with the medical field may not see the image as a problem, but everyone has a right to express an opinion on Wikipedia. If you find yourself in a dispute, follow the guidelines at WP:DR. Good luck. Cresix (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Lddewar, the photo presents a very skewed image of the condition. Given early intervention and proper monitoring, hydrocephalus has minimal effect on quality of life for the vast majority (who have access to "first world" medical care). Roger (talk) 08:22, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Frank Pace (TV producer) and multiple issues template and COI

Hello,

I am working on my Bosses page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Pace_(TV_producer). The box at the top that says the page has multiple issues, but I feel that I have fixed them all, except for the part about it being written like a resume. My boss does not want to change the way it is written, so with that said how can make that box go away?

Thanks in advance

TransplantPro (talk) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Your boss does not get to decide what goes in the Wikipedia article about him, nor how it is written. Having said that, you've been doing a fairly reasonable job of tidying it up to comply with Wikipedia standards. I've removed the templates that seem to me to be no longer applicable. It would be wise for you to concentrate on requesting changes on the article's talk page where necessary, rather than continuing to edit the article directly. Hopefully someone else can vet the article for neutrality and tone, then remove the one remaining template that I've left. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

TransplantPro, I think you should read WP:COI to understand the issue here. Cresix (talk) 21:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Two questions about the Chipman NB page

Hi, how can I find out who wrote the page about Chipman, New Brunswick (Canada)?

The reason is I'm looking for someone to write a history of Chipman for the official website, of which I am the webmaster, and that person seems to be the only one who knows anything about it.

Secondly, I have tried to add a link to the official Chipman website on that page, but I can't figure out how to do it. Can you help me?

Thank you.

Gina Bisaillon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygreenhome (talk • contribs) 21:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia. Click the "View history" tab at Chipman, New Brunswick to see the page history. It shows there are many contributors since the page was created in 2005. I just became one of them by adding an external link to the official website. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I did view the History and saw many contributions, but no real names and contacts for these people. The funny thing is nobody in the village knows who they are either! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygreenhome (talk • contribs) 22:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and thank you so much for adding the link! -Gina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygreenhome (talk • contribs) 22:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia allows editors to be anonymous and most are. See Help:Using talk pages and Wikipedia:Emailing users for possible ways to contact editors. I often come by an article and edit something I have nothing to do with, like in this case. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the Wikipedia language! Maybe I'll just post an invitation on the village website & see if anyone responds. Thanks! -Gina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygreenhome (talk • contribs) 23:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The information about the history of Chipman was added to the article by Heather Skedether back in 2009. Heather has made only two edits here—both to that article—and does not have a user page and did not enable Wikipedia e-mail. Do you happen to know anyone named Heather in the village? Deor (talk) 23:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Why not just reuse the Wikipedia text on your website in accordance with the terms and conditions at WP:REUSE?--ukexpat (talk) 00:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Re Heather: I think I have tracked her down and I'm sure she is known here... so thanks for digging that up! -Gina

Re reusing the article: Google frowns upon that sort of thing and even paraphrasing is a no-no. The acceptable alternative is a link to Wikipedia and that's what I've got now but I want to create a separate page with the history, some historical photos, etc. -Gina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygreenhome (talk • contribs) 01:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Reuse of Wikipedia content is nothing to do with Google. It is permitted by Wikipedia's terms of use, on certain conditions. That is all you need to be concerned about.--ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I assume Mygreenhome's concern is not legal but is about being removed or poorly placed in Google search results if Google's software detects that content is duplicated from Wikipedia. See http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66359. We have no inside knowledge of Google's algorithms. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Trailers/Teasers in film articles?

Can trailers or teasers be uploaded and added to articles? I came across this video file (a trailer), File:Rebel teaser.ogv which was added to the film article, Rebel (film). I am confused about the licensing of this file and also i don't see how it's contributing to the article either. Please help me understand about this licensing and tell me if such files(trailers) are allowed. Krzna (talk) 23:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Trouble uploading

Some of the images that I have tried to upload to wikimedia today have generated a "Unknown error: "unknown-warning"." message. I can view these .jpg images on my computer in both Windows Explorer and Canon ZoomBrowser EX software. I have tried to upload them four different ways: after downloading the files to my laptop, directly from the camera, from my SD card slot and via an SD card reader. Are there any known current glitches with images being uploaded? I shot the images today with a Canon EOS Rebel T3i.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I have been able to upload two of the problematic files (File:Kenwood Academy sculpture.JPG and File:Obama_first_kiss_monument.JPG) on Wikipedia although they are not uploading on Wikimedia.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:59, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Note that the latter has been reduced for FU considerations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:09, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know that it's related but see this village pump technical post. They are implementing some new media storage thing and so it's not surprising that things are going wonky for image display and uploading.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

User:LX had an insight for what may be the root cause here, in the discussion over at commons:COM:HD#Trouble_uploading. At first glance it doesn't seem to be related to the Swift backend change. BigNate37_(T) 17:01, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Problem now understood.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

August 18

David Friede

Why were the David Friede and Fr/action articles removed? I can't find anything about them when I was able to previously.

From what I can tell, there never was an article for David Friede. There is an article on David Freidel however. Dismas|^(talk) 04:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

and one on David L. Fried. Maproom (talk) 08:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Based on Google searches "Fr/action" [1] is a project by a musician called David Friede. He is mentioned in Ganymede (band) but apart from this I haven't found signs that Fr/action or David Friede have been mentioned in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

how to find out size of a page after citations etc took out

hiya all,

i want to know how i can find out the size ofa article when all things like cite web cite news, wikitable code, wiki code etc is took out of a page, just now i am working on a page and it exceeding the wp:size i think that the right one for being over 100kb, but i know about 1/3 of that is data that used for reference and other things so i like to know what the size of the apge is when it is barebones data that is displayed on the screen when not editing--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 12:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Try going to the page you are here about and once there paste into your browser's address bar (must be Firefox or Safari):

javascript:importScript('User:Dr pda/prosesize.js'); getDocumentSize();

This should provide a size report. If this doesn't work, you can install the user script, User:Dr pda/prosesize.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

unfortnaly nither worked probally more to do with i have comptuer issue and my system need rebuilt, but the artic.e is Rangers F.C. if someone can post the details for it here for me i be gratefully--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Current page size stats for Rangers F.C.:

• File size: 462 kB
• Prose size (including all HTML code): 65 kB
• References (including all HTML code): 16 kB
• Wiki text: 97 kB
• Prose size (text only): 34 kB (5806 words) "readable prose size"
• References (text only): 726 B

-- John of Reading (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

thanks john i appericate it, at leas ti knwo where the article stand on wp size--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin

Can I copy an article from the wikibin?? Is it free to use?? --Zayeem^talk 13:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin is a wiki completely unaffiliated with Wikipedia, and its parent organization the Wikimedia Foundation. Its content appears to be mostly made up of copyright violations of content taken from here without providing proper attribution under our licenses. Its front page says all its content is licensed under one of our licenses, the [GFDL]] but not the other. If content was originally from here and was posted under our license it's possible it may be properly re-used if that reuse complies with our licenses (both of which require attribution). For that, see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. The problem is that much of Wikibin's content is apparently items that were deleted from here, including things that were deleted because they were themselves copyright violations of third party material. So the short answer is that there's no easy answer, but generally, no; certainly not in the simple way your question implies of just copying it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin contains copies of deleted Wikipedia articles but Wikibin does not attribute the contributors in a page history or in other ways so they break the license and it would violate the rights of the original contributors to copy their work. See also Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Reusing deleted material which says: "Deleted articles may not be recovered and reused from Wikipedia mirrors". There is also another problem: The article was deleted from Wikipedia for a reason, sometimes a legal reason, and shouldn't just be recreated without discussion or checking by an administrator. See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion if you want the original article undeleted from Wikipedia. This will also restore the page history so the contributors are properly attributed. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually I was looking for the article Fuad al Muqtadir, and found that it was deleted for the lack of reliable sources claiming the artiste's notability. I asked the admin to userfy that deleted page and he did it. I then put some reliable sources in that article and re-created it. But then it got deleted again for being copied from a deleted page. Now as I said, the reason for being deleted in the first time was the lack of reliable sources and not the copyright violations, so can it be re-used?? If not then what should I do?? --Zayeem^talk 15:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You made the mistake of copy-pasting from User:Kmzayeem/Fuad al Muqtadir to a page you created at Fuad al Muqtadir. That breaks the license as described in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. You should have moved User:Kmzayeem/Fuad al Muqtadir so the page history was kept with attribution to the old contributors. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

probable link towards a virus on the 'Quoridor' page

Hi, I found in this article about a game :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoridor#External_links

this link towards a software version of the game :

• C++ using SDL implementation, open source solution

i'm quite sure this software conveys a virus (a prompt that would not disappear, asking you to pay a 100 euros fine for supposely having visited some porn web sites) the prompt appeared couple of minutes after the installation

i deleted the reference in the article anything else to do on your side ?

Sébastien BRON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.169.42.234 (talk) 15:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

1.0 assessment chart seems to be forbidden for me, any help?

Recently, I was trying to accesses parts of the WikiProject Physics 1.0 assessment listings, this, for example. I get the following message: "Forbidden (403) You are not allowed to view this page. If you think you are receiving this page in error, or you have a question, please contact the owner of this document: enwp10 [at] toolserver [dot] org.". I've been able to visit the pages in the past. Any help? Buggie111 (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

What specifically did you do to reach that link? If you clicked something then what did you click where? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

went to the Wiki Project Physics page, scrolled to the assessment table, and clicked on "Top-importance start quality artciles". Buggie111 (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Quotation marks usually indicate a direct quote but that doesn't appear to be the case here. I guess you mean the intersection of the "Top" column and "Start" row at Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics#Current status of physics articles. All the links fail. The tool is currently down. See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index#WP 1.0 bot temporarily down 2012-8-7. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:19, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

how to find hcard information

when editing a article how can you find where teh hcard informaiton is that getting used on the page?--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:07, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:WikiProject Microformats/hcard answer your question? If not then please give an example. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

yip i found it, it coming from another template so im happy now it fine--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

BOT

I am a bot account now how do I use it ? GyttonBot (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

If you have a bot you wish to use, you need to get it approved first. See Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group for more details. --Jayron32 18:35, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

This request should not be treated seriously. Apart from the above, GyttonBot's only contributions have been to leave some abuse (now deleted) on another user's talk page, and to create an article (now tagged for speedy delete) whose entire content reads "What is a Paint bomb ? Please tell me as I need it's article for School Project." Now he has been warned "your username, "GyttonBot", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it contains the suffix "-bot""; so he has apparently decided to be a bot. Maproom (talk) 18:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I blocked the account for personal attacks and because of the user name. It doesn't appear they are here to be productive. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Requests for file renaming

Per WP:IFN, image titles that have no meaning should be changed. That said, I stumbled upon File:DSC 9467 crop.JPG, and requested the title to be renamed to "Canoe_Cauius.jpg", based on the image summary. I did not notice that I misspelled "Caius". A few minutes later, the image uploader reverted my rename request, labeling me edit as vandalism. That brings up my first question; is it appropriate to remove someone else's rename request in general? Anyways, I reverted his edit, saying it was not vandalism, but he reverted it back, saying "suggesting cauius-canoe is vandalism. please stop." He then posted on my talk page, saying "please take the silly undergrad games somewhere else. And learn how to spell." I replied, telling him to calm down and assume good faith (which were my intentions), and informed him that I have a BA in psychiatry. He replied by saying "If you can't tell an eight from a canoe and if you can't spell "Caius", find a different picture to comment on" -- That constitutes WP:OWN, and he was getting very rude with me. I wrote back, explaining my reasoning behind the request. The basic point, is that I made a good-faith rename request, with a silly typo, that William could have easily fixed/changed. Instead, he decided to be extremely rude to me, and continued to remove my rename request. Is this something worth taking to AN/I? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not a canoe but a rowing boat called an eight (rowing). The uploader apparently suspected you of making fun. There is probably rivalry and teasing involved in these races. I believe you were acting in good faith and he should have been more polite but it's a minor dispute not worth AN/I. Suggest a proper name like "Caius and Downing at Lent Bumps 2012" and leave it at that. I would only consider it a WP:OWN problem if a proper name suggestion is reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You mis-spelled the name of the college and called an eight a canoe. Ok, that can be attributed to extreme incompetence. But when corrected, you did it again. I don't blame him for attributing that to malice. Maproom (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

As I've said, instead of reverting, he could have just fixed the typo and misidentification. Then, when I explained I did not mean to perform the typo, and my edits were in good faith, he continued to criticize me. His block history reads like a phone book, much of the blocks for personal attacks and civility issues. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, it is not "incompetent" to make an extremely minor spelling typo. He could have just fixed it. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately it's far too common for editors to mislabel edits as vandalism when it is not clear that they are. Your edits, while incorporating two errors in the span of two words, were not obvious vandalism. Labeling them as such in an edit summary, which is effectively permanent, after the other party has disagreed with the label given to their edit, well, suffice to say you're well within your rights to have been frustrated by it. The initial judgment WMC made is understandable (especially since we have the benefit of hindsight where he did not), but he should have handled it differently as things unfolded. PrimeHunter is right though, this isn't something for AN/I. It seems like it's over with, and any administrator intervention should only be made with the goals of deescalating to prevent further disruption. In cases like this where the issue persists, my advice would be rather than consdering AN/I, check out the steps that WP:EW#Handling of edit warring behaviors suggests. BigNate37_(T) 20:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you BigNate37; everything you said makes sense. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Making a new Rugby Union Flag Template.

I am trying to create a flag template for a rugby union team that includes its flag/logo and its name similat to the template Wales.

I am trying to use the same effect but with the British and Irish Lions logo/flag with their name next to it. Some thing like Template:Country data Lions.

Could someone explaine how to do this, or create the template for me.

British and Irish Lions flag/logo is on this address. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_Lions_Rugby.svg

If you do create it for me, could you also do it for the Barbarians flag/logo.

Barbarians flag/logo is on this addresss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barbarians.png

Just to note, File:Logo Lions Rugby.svg is a non-free file, each usage of it requires a non-free use rationale. Using it in a template would probably be inappropriate. Could that image be replaced by another one that would serve the same purpose, say a combination of the UK and Irish flags? Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 21:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps this image will be ok. File:British and Irish Lions flag.svg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.Leon111 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC) or may be this one File:Free Use British and Irish Lions flag (bordered).png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.Leon111 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely convinced that File:British and Irish Lions flag.svg is licensed appropriately, since it's essentially a derivative work of the non-free File:Logo Lions Rugby.svg. I'm not an expert at the application of WP:LOGO#Copyright-free logos clause #3, but it seems to me if that applied then the actual logo wouldn't bear a copyright notice (in other words, at least one of them seems to be incorrectly licensed). In any event, note that the relevant guideline for all logos is Wikipedia:Logos. (Use of non-free logos must, of course, also conform to our Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy; that and other pertinent concerns are all discussed at the logo guideline.) BigNate37_(T) 22:06, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Spamlist on preview

Hi. I looked around for this answer but couldn't find an answer, so here I am. Is there any reason that a URL that is on the blocked list doesn't trigger a notice on preview? I tend to preview my articles on creation and would love it if the notice that a particular URL is disallowed popped up on the first preview after insertion rather than only when you save the changes. It seems to me it would be easier for article creators to find a new source at that point, rather than after article is ready to be submitted. Thanks! StarM 22:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

It sound like it would be a good feature. I can only find MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/January 2011#Preview where a user said: "Just guessing, but checking the blacklist would be a fairly intense operation for the server". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Not sure how I missed that. I guessed it was a technical issue since it seems like something that would make sense. Is there a good place to suggest/ask officially about this or to confirm that it would be a technical load issue? I know of VP/T but usually the conversation there is above my level of understanding StarM 00:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

This is just off the cuff so I might be way off here, but assuming the blacklist is public it would be feasible to perform the searching client-side, perhaps through a custom JavaScript module. For as often as the average editor would accidentally insert a blacklisted URL, I could only such a tool being of interest to folks who specialize in adding links. BigNate37_(T) 00:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

If you don't want to ask in VPT, maybe one of the other Village Pumps, such as the Idea Lab. RudolfRed (talk) 00:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, BigNate. I've been hit by the "ready to save, oops that link is bad" twice in last week. That's why I thought to mention it here. Probably the only two times in my article creating/editing that it happened so not sure how big an issue it is. Rudolf, will look into that. I'm not as familiar with those sections. StarM 00:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

What exactly happens when you save changes and there is a blocked URL, anyways? Is the entire edit discarded, or does it show you the contents of your rejected edit as well? It seems to me you should be able to browse back to the last previewed version of your edits, but even if that's correct it's not exactly a reason to keep things the way they are. BigNate37_(T) 01:01, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It shows the contents of the rejected edit. It's not in an edit box but you can either copy-paste it or use the browser back button (unless you have a crappy browser which doesn't remember your content when you go back). You can for examle try what happens with http://suite101.com. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:16, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be a crapshoot if you get the behavior PrimeHunter mentioned above - I use FF 13 on Mac running SnowLeopard and I don't always get my text back. I'm used to that issue, however, and make a habit of Command A, Command C before pressing save in case I get a loss of session data or any other hinky issue. On a related note, time to go find why the site that hit me yesterday is blacklisted. It's not an obvious one IMO StarM 03:56, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

August 19

Help with submitting an edited article

Hello

My article was declined because of a lack of verifiable sources. I have edited the article and added six more sources. How do I now resubmit the article??? I don't see a SUBMIT button anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfguy3333 (talk • contribs) 04:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved at IRC. Dru of Id (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

CHANGE DISPLAYTITLE OF GAYLORD DUBOIS PAGE TO GAYLORD DU BOIS

FULLROOTPAGENAME appears to be protected.

And I wouldn't know how to do it anyway.

Can someone please change the displayed title of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_DuBois so it becomes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_Du_Bois?

I'm in over y head. Sorry.

~Dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Porta (talk • contribs) 05:33, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Gaylord Du Bois is already a redirect to Gaylord DuBois, and the article says that he went by both names, so it not obvious that the displayed title should be different than the actual title. You should raise the question on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 06:27, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

In order to display an extra space the page would have to be moved. That would require an administrator because the target name already exists with a page history. See Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Screwy layout for ordered lists

See for example Whorl (botany). Looks like a bug triggered by left-aligned flush images. I see that with Firefox. Please investigate. The list items look unindented and stick to the image for some reason. The HTML looks OK, probably a CSS bug. Thanks. 220.246.157.2 (talk) 08:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 08:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Left-aligned image for test purposes

Ruslik has fixed the problem for the article Whorl (botany), by moving the image there from left-aligned to right-aligned. But there is a more general problem here, and I agree with 220.246.157.2, it is probably a CSS bug. I have checked with several browsers:

1. Internet Explorer 9, on Windows: No indentation. List numbers are missing appear overlaid on the image (I only realised this when I used a pale image).
2. Firefox 14.0.1, on Windows,
3. Chrome 21.0.1180.79 m, on Windows,
4. Opera 11.50, on Windows,
5. Safari 5.1.7, on Windows,
6. default browser on Samsung Android: All have no indentation, and list numbers are too close to image.

I think this is a real problem, which needs a fix to the CSS. Maproom (talk) 09:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It is expected behaviour and cannot be fixed in CSS. Rather it is a 'bug' in the CSS specification, which all browsers adhere to. The only solution is to move the listmarkers to inside the list item (default is outside), but that will create even bigger problems because list items will be misaligned in numbered lists. — Edokter (talk) — 12:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

New Features

I was active back in 2010, and have decided to return from a long WikiBreak, which was essentially retirement to me. I remember Pending Changes, and I know reader assessment boxes started showing up soon after I quit being active, but are there any other features added in the last couple of years that I need to be aware of?

Thank you. Us441(talk)(contribs) 12:28, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

replacing an old logo with a new one

We have an old logo on our page, ad I can't figure out how to upload and replace it with a new one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alvarion_logo.png

Please send instructions.

Alvarioncontent (talk) 13:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Logos are a little tricky to handle correctly because of copyright. We can do it for you. Is the new logo http://www.alvarion.com/upload/images/logo_alvarion.gif? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes!! Can you upload it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvarioncontent (talk • contribs) 06:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvarioncontent (talk • contribs)

 Done I've updated File:Alvarion logo.png. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

That logo should probably be tagged with {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Trademarked}} for failing the threshold of originality to be protectable under copyright. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:27, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Question for administrator

{{admin help}} <Your Question> my username is my real name and i am afraid of it appearing in edits for a contribution. I've tried to change my username and signature but they are still there. can i delete the contributions to avoid harassment?

--rustarpuke (talk) 13:45, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You've already done the right thing by posting at WP:Changing username/Simple. - Purplewowies (talk) 14:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Article submitted for review

I am a new contributor. I submitted an article for review on 8-16. I could see a box of notes on the bottom of my preview (but it is now gone) and I cannot find my submission on the list of articles submitted or denied articles. What am I doing wrong?? Thanks, Boca Raton PL (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You accidentally removed a } from the template at the bottom. It's been fixed and the article is awaiting a review. Jarkeld (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Jarkeld, for help on New Article for Review

I apologize if this is the wrong place to say thank you but here is a very big thank you! I have read some of your suggested pages and will continue to learn. I hope to add more articles and become more involved in the Wikipedia community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boca Raton PL (talk • contribs) 20:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Well you can always contact him on his talk page at User talk:Jarkeld for matters that are only of concern to him, but this way he gets some spotlight time in front of all of us =P BigNate37_(T) 21:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Changing User Names While Article is Being reviewed

Is it possible to change a user name while an article is being reviewed or is it preferable to wait until the review is completed? Thanks. Boca Raton PL Boca Raton PL (talk) 21:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple; the change would be user name, user page, user talk, user sandbox, user subpages pretty much at the same time, including hyperlinks; places where those were not linked, but merely cited in text, would not update. Dru of Id (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

August 20

Listing page for Hungary in the Olympic games

Hi there:

I just added this link to Facebook: Hungary at the Olympics. I noticed there is a flag with a Swastika that pops up next to it, so I assume someone has added a hidden image to the HTML in the header. Could you please check it out?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.176.225 (talk) 00:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I've found it, though I can't see any difference in the article as it shows directly - could you take another look, and let me know if it has gone? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ooops! No, the flag I removed should have been there - it was for the 1936 Olympics, which were of course staged in Nazi-dominated Germany. If the icon is showing anywhere other than in the appropriate place, letus know. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:00, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

File deleted for lack of license

My Commons file [File:Lee Valley White Water Centre (1st gate set, 2012 Olympics).svg] was deleted for lack of a license. When I learned of this, I accidentally re-uploaded it to English Wikipedia instead of Commons. I would like to use the same name, so I would like to delete the English Wikipedia file before uploading the identical file, with the identical name, to Commons. How do I delete a Wikipedia file? HowardMorland (talk) 02:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Never mind. Since Commons would not let me upload it there, I just used (in the article) the one I accidentally uploaded here. HowardMorland (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Templates and expansion depth

I have been around here a while but I have only now encountered the message Page exceeded the expansion depth when editing a page. Seems they all go to Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded. Currently about 16.000 pages in it. Two of the templates that seem to do it are {{Automatic taxobox}} and also {{atn}} when there is no following archive page. I am no expert on templates or coding but should this be sorted out? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this looks bad. I suggest you post at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

highest score for spider solitaire

after playing over 2100 spider solitaire inter games. as of 8-7-2012 WITHOUT CHEATING I got a score of 1266. Ican even send you a photo of my screen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.115.41 (talk) 07:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia articles should only report on what has been previously published in reliable sources such as books, newspapers, respected news websites and such like. If your feat is no amazing that it attracts media coverage, then, just possibly, it could be mentioned in a Wikipedia article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

About a deleted page

Hi everybody, I published a page here Teun Voeten (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) the page was about the journalist and war photographer Teun Voeten.

I had been away for a couple of weeks and I didn't check wikipedia during this time. When I came back the page was deleted.

I have already left a message to the editor that deleted the page, and I'm waiting a reply. In the meantime I want to ask you for some suggestions: is it possible to have a copy of the deleted page? How? How much shall I wait before re-publish it? How if the editor doesn't reply? The page passed the control of editors and after a period in the Articles for creation was published. Now if I want to republish the same page with the corrections do I have to pass again from article for creations or can I publish it straight on? How do I know if the topic is blocked?

Hoping someone helps me. Thanks a lot for your time and kindness

Ransfortstraat (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not a good idea to have the article back, as it was deleted as being a copyright violation. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, you must have meant to notify Crisco 1492 rather than Who. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Check your email. I have sent you two. The first contains the portions of the article that were not a copyvio, meaning the entire body has been removed, but I sent you the first sentence, the section headers, the bibliography, external links section and reference section with the markup template. I then realized you might want the inline citation text with their markup, so I sent that in a separate email. Everything else was a direct copyright violation and cannot be used, nor sent. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit please

--109.153.122.104 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)My Wikipedia entry states that I am currently the Deputy Chairman of TFS Ltd, when in fact I am the Chairman and have never been the Deputy. How do I obtain the necessary correction ?

HON RICHARD ALSTON

Thank you for pointing out the error. I have corrected the page. Maproom (talk) 12:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Reference formatting

This is really only kind of some small cosmetic problem, but here we go. When giving page numbers for a source using {{Rp}} and for a statement I want to give a range of pages plus a single additional page, such as , is what I gave here the correct formatting? I simply used two instances of {{Rp}} directly behind each other. Is that the correct way to do it, or is there perhaps an advanced version of the template where I can specify more than one range of pages? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can just write out the range in one use, like this: {{Rp|215, 217-218}}, which formats as RP, takes whatever you type, so you could even use something unusual you might need like "front page" or "App. C", pp. 1" for example.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I was not completely sure about how exactly the template works, but what you propose produces exactly the result I was seeking. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Help with appearance of Wikipedia (font size) in Mozilla Firefox

About a week ago, I logged into Wikipedia using Mozilla Firefox and the size of the font on all Wikipedia pages has increased from the default size to a much larger size. When I log in using Google Chrome or IE, I do not have this problem. It is only a problem on Mozilla Firefox, which is my default and preferred browser. Other websites (e.g. Google, Facebook, etc) have not increased their font size, just Wikipedia. How can I reduce the appearance of the default font size when I log in? Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not set the font size, but leaves it up to the browser. You may have accidentally changed the text size while viewing a Wikipedia page, and now Firefox is "helpfully" using that size for all Wikipedia pages. Try View > Zoom > Reset in Firefox and see if that fixes it. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can also reset the zoom to 100% with Ctrl+0 or adjust it with Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-. Ctrl and the the mouse wheel can also change size. Many users do this accidentally. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. Rangasyd (talk) 14:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

sources

how can I obtain a source for data provided in one of your articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekwan337 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

If you want to quote the article itself as a source then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Otherwise we need to know which data and article you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

outdated information please updated

hello sir , iam making a project on telecommunications in India , and i found that one of Wikipedia page about telecommunications in India is outdated

List of mobile network operators of India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

please update this with new info at

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-08-03/news/33020038_1_second-highest-addition-subscriber-base-user-base — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.185.77.75 (talk) 14:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You could be bold and update it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Of if you are not confident in doing that, Talk:List of mobile network operators of India is the best place to suggest a change. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Setting Background color for Table Header Row

How can I set background color for the entire Table Header Row?

Actually I am trying to make a table sortable which has background color. List of districts of Andhra Pradesh

I have done some changes which are in my Sandbox

Please help me get the background colors in the layout in my sandbox from the original page.

Thanks in Advance

Rajiv Bandi —Preceding undated comment added 14:49, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

MHA logo

Methodist Homes for the Aged (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please can you advise how to change the MHA logo on the wikipedia page and how to change the main title on the main page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Customerservices (talk • contribs) 14:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

To change the logo, you or someone will need to upload the new logo, giving the required copyright permission for its use. (In my experience, getting copyright permissions right is difficult, and gives a lot of trouble to those who have not done it before. I wish you luck.)

I don't understand "change the main title on the main page". Do you want to change the title of the article Methodist_Homes_for_the_Aged? What do you want to change it to, and why? Maproom (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

declined submission - style

Hi!

This is my article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Caligola (music project)

İt has been declined for the third time now - the sources should be fine now, but İ don't know what about the style. What else can İ change? İ'd be grateful for a littie bit of help for İ have changed it so many times now and İ honestly don't know what else to do! Thanks to anyone who can help me!!!Andrea Schweinberger (talk) 15:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

First there should not be any trivia section per WP:MOS. The information from the trivia should distributed over other sections. Second the history section actually mixes history with information about music style, development and genres. The article is actually not so bad. Ruslik_Zero 17:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can look at The Beatles as an example. Ruslik_Zero 17:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Could it be possible to watch move logs, deletion logs etc. separately?

1. Is there any way I can see move logs or deletion logs separately in Watchlist, RecentChanges, RecentChangesLinked or anything similar?
2. Is it technically possible?
3. And does it worth proposing to include them?

Thanks in advance. ···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 15:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit count numbers are different even after subtracting deleted edits

Why does the edit count tool that is found through your contributions give very different numbers than the number you get from your preferences, even after subtracting deleted edits?--108.27.100.194 (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm seeing only a slight difference: for me, "My preferences" says 140,261 currently while the edit count tool says 140,451. I think this is because the two methods count page moves differently; see Wikipedia:Edit count. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

A new article

Hello,

I just finished creating a new article about a poet, and I can't find it by searching her name in google. How can I see it? does it take time? Also, when I write her name on google, one of the sites that it does link me to, is to my sendbox where I practiced editing the article. I deleting what I wrote in the sandbox but I still see a link to that page, and to the image of her that I uploaded to wiki. thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, her photo file that I uploaded to wikicommons and then transfered to Wikipedia is seen as an entry when I write her name on google: File:Rachel Tzvia Back.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - how can I delete it from there? thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It takes time for the Google search engine to update its cash. You should wait for a few days. Ruslik_Zero 16:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{noindex}} to your sandbox, to stop it from being examined by search engine robots. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing for details. It's generally only for talk page and userspace, though. As far as changing search results to make a page rank higher or lower, we cannot affect that, nor should we be worrying about it. We do not have any sort of arrangement with Google, their formula decides where a certain page ranks automatically. See PageRank if you're curious. BigNate37_(T) 16:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your response! can you tell me how to remove the link to her photo file on wikipedia? for some reason it also appears as a link in addition to the wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meitalklachuk (talk • contribs) 16:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why you're worried about the image showing up on search results. Given time the article will probably rank higher than the image, because it will generate more traffic. Preventing useful content from appearing on searches is counter to the goal of the Wikimedia Foundation. BigNate37_(T) 17:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

How do I submit photos?

Hi, I have additional photos of the Ameila Earhart memorial in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. Just wondering if and how I can submit them to the Amelia Earhart page, or if that is possible.

Amelia Earhart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Cheers and Thanks Talhsoma (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Except in special circumstances, we require all images to be licensed under a free licence. In those exceptional circumstances it is best that the images are uploaded here, at Wikipedia. It sounds like your images will not fall into that category, so I'd like to direct you to our sister site, Wikimedia Commons, which is where all of our free media is stored (so that every language of Wikipedia can use your contributions). They have a guide at Commons:Contributing your own work that should help. BigNate37_(T) 16:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a little note, BigNate37's advice applies only if you are the photographer. If anyone other than you actually took the photos the rules become a bit more complicated. Roger (talk) 17:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah thank you for pointing that out, I made that assumption without even realizing it. BigNate37_(T) 17:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano's page was vandalized

Doreen Giuliano's page, the URL listed here, was recently vandalized. If you look at the history of the page, you will see that the page has been tampered with and things have been changed. I would like to get this fixed as soon as possible and also protect this page from this happening again. Can someone please tell me how to properly report this?

I would also like to protect her son, John Giuca's, page from vandalism as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdavis2 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

thanks.

Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I need someone to help me please- the page has been altered and we need to have it changed back and protected as soon as possible. See the link here:

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The vandalism has been fixed, however we would still like this page to be protected from this in the future. Can someone please tell me how to go about doing so?

Thank you.

Mdavis2 (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have undone one edit made in April, and will keep an eye on both this article and John Giuca. However, the article is unlikely to be protected from editing after only one bad edit. This is, after all, the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and other editors should be free to improve the articles in any way they see fit, subject to Wikipedia's policies. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I got a message saying I edited something (or someone at my ISP address did) yet I did not, what is going on?

I received a message when I logged on to wikipedia (no idea why I would receive a message), it took me to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.73.124.82&redirect=no

I have never edited any article on wikipedia, I don't even have an account. I don't have any desire to edit wikipedia either. Why is it saying that I did this when I did not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.73.124.82 (talk) 19:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Most people have Internet providers that change the IP address (which identifies you) every time you connect to the Internet. Most times they reuse addresses, so someone else made the edit and now that you have the address, you have got the message. This has happened to me as well. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 19:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

This is explained in the box at the bottom of your link. The edits by the IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/178.73.124.82. The message is about a 2011 edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation :)

Trusts

where does the trust go after someone dies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.93.77.233 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Next time, ask in the Reference Desk, but look at Trust law. Us441(talk)(contribs) 19:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)