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August 18

David Friede

Why were the David Friede and Fr/action articles removed? I can't find anything about them when I was able to previously.

From what I can tell, there never was an article for David Friede. There is an article on David Freidel however. Dismas|^(talk) 04:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

and one on David L. Fried. Maproom (talk) 08:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Based on Google searches "Fr/action" [1] is a project by a musician called David Friede. He is mentioned in Ganymede (band) but apart from this I haven't found signs that Fr/action or David Friede have been mentioned in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

how to find out size of a page after citations etc took out

hiya all,

i want to know how i can find out the size ofa article when all things like cite web cite news, wikitable code, wiki code etc is took out of a page, just now i am working on a page and it exceeding the wp:size i think that the right one for being over 100kb, but i know about 1/3 of that is data that used for reference and other things so i like to know what the size of the apge is when it is barebones data that is displayed on the screen when not editing--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 12:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Try going to the page you are here about and once there paste into your browser's address bar (must be Firefox or Safari):

javascript:importScript('User:Dr pda/prosesize.js'); getDocumentSize();

This should provide a size report. If this doesn't work, you can install the user script, User:Dr pda/prosesize.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

unfortnaly nither worked probally more to do with i have comptuer issue and my system need rebuilt, but the artic.e is Rangers F.C. if someone can post the details for it here for me i be gratefully--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Current page size stats for Rangers F.C.:

• File size: 462 kB
• Prose size (including all HTML code): 65 kB
• References (including all HTML code): 16 kB
• Wiki text: 97 kB
• Prose size (text only): 34 kB (5806 words) "readable prose size"
• References (text only): 726 B

-- John of Reading (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

thanks john i appericate it, at leas ti knwo where the article stand on wp size--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin

Can I copy an article from the wikibin?? Is it free to use?? --Zayeem^talk 13:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin is a wiki completely unaffiliated with Wikipedia, and its parent organization the Wikimedia Foundation. Its content appears to be mostly made up of copyright violations of content taken from here without providing proper attribution under our licenses. Its front page says all its content is licensed under one of our licenses, the [GFDL]] but not the other. If content was originally from here and was posted under our license it's possible it may be properly re-used if that reuse complies with our licenses (both of which require attribution). For that, see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. The problem is that much of Wikibin's content is apparently items that were deleted from here, including things that were deleted because they were themselves copyright violations of third party material. So the short answer is that there's no easy answer, but generally, no; certainly not in the simple way your question implies of just copying it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikibin contains copies of deleted Wikipedia articles but Wikibin does not attribute the contributors in a page history or in other ways so they break the license and it would violate the rights of the original contributors to copy their work. See also Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Reusing deleted material which says: "Deleted articles may not be recovered and reused from Wikipedia mirrors". There is also another problem: The article was deleted from Wikipedia for a reason, sometimes a legal reason, and shouldn't just be recreated without discussion or checking by an administrator. See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion if you want the original article undeleted from Wikipedia. This will also restore the page history so the contributors are properly attributed. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually I was looking for the article Fuad al Muqtadir, and found that it was deleted for the lack of reliable sources claiming the artiste's notability. I asked the admin to userfy that deleted page and he did it. I then put some reliable sources in that article and re-created it. But then it got deleted again for being copied from a deleted page. Now as I said, the reason for being deleted in the first time was the lack of reliable sources and not the copyright violations, so can it be re-used?? If not then what should I do?? --Zayeem^talk 15:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You made the mistake of copy-pasting from User:Kmzayeem/Fuad al Muqtadir to a page you created at Fuad al Muqtadir. That breaks the license as described in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. You should have moved User:Kmzayeem/Fuad al Muqtadir so the page history was kept with attribution to the old contributors. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

probable link towards a virus on the 'Quoridor' page

Hi, I found in this article about a game :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoridor#External_links

this link towards a software version of the game :

• C++ using SDL implementation, open source solution

i'm quite sure this software conveys a virus (a prompt that would not disappear, asking you to pay a 100 euros fine for supposely having visited some porn web sites) the prompt appeared couple of minutes after the installation

i deleted the reference in the article anything else to do on your side ?

Sébastien BRON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.169.42.234 (talk) 15:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

1.0 assessment chart seems to be forbidden for me, any help?

Recently, I was trying to accesses parts of the WikiProject Physics 1.0 assessment listings, this, for example. I get the following message: "Forbidden (403) You are not allowed to view this page. If you think you are receiving this page in error, or you have a question, please contact the owner of this document: enwp10 [at] toolserver [dot] org.". I've been able to visit the pages in the past. Any help? Buggie111 (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

What specifically did you do to reach that link? If you clicked something then what did you click where? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

went to the Wiki Project Physics page, scrolled to the assessment table, and clicked on "Top-importance start quality artciles". Buggie111 (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Quotation marks usually indicate a direct quote but that doesn't appear to be the case here. I guess you mean the intersection of the "Top" column and "Start" row at Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics#Current status of physics articles. All the links fail. The tool is currently down. See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index#WP 1.0 bot temporarily down 2012-8-7. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:19, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

how to find hcard information

when editing a article how can you find where teh hcard informaiton is that getting used on the page?--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:07, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:WikiProject Microformats/hcard answer your question? If not then please give an example. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

yip i found it, it coming from another template so im happy now it fine--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

BOT

I am a bot account now how do I use it ? GyttonBot (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

If you have a bot you wish to use, you need to get it approved first. See Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group for more details. --Jayron32 18:35, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

This request should not be treated seriously. Apart from the above, GyttonBot's only contributions have been to leave some abuse (now deleted) on another user's talk page, and to create an article (now tagged for speedy delete) whose entire content reads "What is a Paint bomb ? Please tell me as I need it's article for School Project." Now he has been warned "your username, "GyttonBot", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it contains the suffix "-bot""; so he has apparently decided to be a bot. Maproom (talk) 18:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I blocked the account for personal attacks and because of the user name. It doesn't appear they are here to be productive. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Requests for file renaming

Per WP:IFN, image titles that have no meaning should be changed. That said, I stumbled upon File:DSC 9467 crop.JPG, and requested the title to be renamed to "Canoe_Cauius.jpg", based on the image summary. I did not notice that I misspelled "Caius". A few minutes later, the image uploader reverted my rename request, labeling me edit as vandalism. That brings up my first question; is it appropriate to remove someone else's rename request in general? Anyways, I reverted his edit, saying it was not vandalism, but he reverted it back, saying "suggesting cauius-canoe is vandalism. please stop." He then posted on my talk page, saying "please take the silly undergrad games somewhere else. And learn how to spell." I replied, telling him to calm down and assume good faith (which were my intentions), and informed him that I have a BA in psychiatry. He replied by saying "If you can't tell an eight from a canoe and if you can't spell "Caius", find a different picture to comment on" -- That constitutes WP:OWN, and he was getting very rude with me. I wrote back, explaining my reasoning behind the request. The basic point, is that I made a good-faith rename request, with a silly typo, that William could have easily fixed/changed. Instead, he decided to be extremely rude to me, and continued to remove my rename request. Is this something worth taking to AN/I? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not a canoe but a rowing boat called an eight (rowing). The uploader apparently suspected you of making fun. There is probably rivalry and teasing involved in these races. I believe you were acting in good faith and he should have been more polite but it's a minor dispute not worth AN/I. Suggest a proper name like "Caius and Downing at Lent Bumps 2012" and leave it at that. I would only consider it a WP:OWN problem if a proper name suggestion is reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You mis-spelled the name of the college and called an eight a canoe. Ok, that can be attributed to extreme incompetence. But when corrected, you did it again. I don't blame him for attributing that to malice. Maproom (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

As I've said, instead of reverting, he could have just fixed the typo and misidentification. Then, when I explained I did not mean to perform the typo, and my edits were in good faith, he continued to criticize me. His block history reads like a phone book, much of the blocks for personal attacks and civility issues. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, it is not "incompetent" to make an extremely minor spelling typo. He could have just fixed it. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately it's far too common for editors to mislabel edits as vandalism when it is not clear that they are. Your edits, while incorporating two errors in the span of two words, were not obvious vandalism. Labeling them as such in an edit summary, which is effectively permanent, after the other party has disagreed with the label given to their edit, well, suffice to say you're well within your rights to have been frustrated by it. The initial judgment WMC made is understandable (especially since we have the benefit of hindsight where he did not), but he should have handled it differently as things unfolded. PrimeHunter is right though, this isn't something for AN/I. It seems like it's over with, and any administrator intervention should only be made with the goals of deescalating to prevent further disruption. In cases like this where the issue persists, my advice would be rather than consdering AN/I, check out the steps that WP:EW#Handling of edit warring behaviors suggests. BigNate37_(T) 20:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you BigNate37; everything you said makes sense. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Making a new Rugby Union Flag Template.

I am trying to create a flag template for a rugby union team that includes its flag/logo and its name similat to the template Wales.

I am trying to use the same effect but with the British and Irish Lions logo/flag with their name next to it. Some thing like {{ru|Lions}}.

Could someone explaine how to do this, or create the template for me.

British and Irish Lions flag/logo is on this address. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_Lions_Rugby.svg

If you do create it for me, could you also do it for the Barbarians flag/logo.

Barbarians flag/logo is on this addresss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barbarians.png

Just to note, File:Logo Lions Rugby.svg is a non-free file, each usage of it requires a non-free use rationale. Using it in a template would probably be inappropriate. Could that image be replaced by another one that would serve the same purpose, say a combination of the UK and Irish flags? Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 21:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps this image will be ok. File:British and Irish Lions flag.svg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.Leon111 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC) or may be this one File:Free Use British and Irish Lions flag (bordered).png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.Leon111 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely convinced that File:British and Irish Lions flag.svg is licensed appropriately, since it's essentially a derivative work of the non-free File:Logo Lions Rugby.svg. I'm not an expert at the application of WP:LOGO#Copyright-free logos clause #3, but it seems to me if that applied then the actual logo wouldn't bear a copyright notice (in other words, at least one of them seems to be incorrectly licensed). In any event, note that the relevant guideline for all logos is Wikipedia:Logos. (Use of non-free logos must, of course, also conform to our Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy; that and other pertinent concerns are all discussed at the logo guideline.) BigNate37_(T) 22:06, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Spamlist on preview

Hi. I looked around for this answer but couldn't find an answer, so here I am. Is there any reason that a URL that is on the blocked list doesn't trigger a notice on preview? I tend to preview my articles on creation and would love it if the notice that a particular URL is disallowed popped up on the first preview after insertion rather than only when you save the changes. It seems to me it would be easier for article creators to find a new source at that point, rather than after article is ready to be submitted. Thanks! StarM 22:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

It sound like it would be a good feature. I can only find MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/January 2011#Preview where a user said: "Just guessing, but checking the blacklist would be a fairly intense operation for the server". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Not sure how I missed that. I guessed it was a technical issue since it seems like something that would make sense. Is there a good place to suggest/ask officially about this or to confirm that it would be a technical load issue? I know of VP/T but usually the conversation there is above my level of understanding StarM 00:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

This is just off the cuff so I might be way off here, but assuming the blacklist is public it would be feasible to perform the searching client-side, perhaps through a custom JavaScript module. For as often as the average editor would accidentally insert a blacklisted URL, I could only such a tool being of interest to folks who specialize in adding links. BigNate37_(T) 00:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

If you don't want to ask in VPT, maybe one of the other Village Pumps, such as the Idea Lab. RudolfRed (talk) 00:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, BigNate. I've been hit by the "ready to save, oops that link is bad" twice in last week. That's why I thought to mention it here. Probably the only two times in my article creating/editing that it happened so not sure how big an issue it is. Rudolf, will look into that. I'm not as familiar with those sections. StarM 00:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

What exactly happens when you save changes and there is a blocked URL, anyways? Is the entire edit discarded, or does it show you the contents of your rejected edit as well? It seems to me you should be able to browse back to the last previewed version of your edits, but even if that's correct it's not exactly a reason to keep things the way they are. BigNate37_(T) 01:01, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It shows the contents of the rejected edit. It's not in an edit box but you can either copy-paste it or use the browser back button (unless you have a crappy browser which doesn't remember your content when you go back). You can for examle try what happens with http://suite101.com. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:16, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be a crapshoot if you get the behavior PrimeHunter mentioned above - I use FF 13 on Mac running SnowLeopard and I don't always get my text back. I'm used to that issue, however, and make a habit of Command A, Command C before pressing save in case I get a loss of session data or any other hinky issue. On a related note, time to go find why the site that hit me yesterday is blacklisted. It's not an obvious one IMO StarM 03:56, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

August 19

Help with submitting an edited article

Hello

My article was declined because of a lack of verifiable sources. I have edited the article and added six more sources. How do I now resubmit the article??? I don't see a SUBMIT button anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfguy3333 (talk • contribs) 04:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved at IRC. Dru of Id (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

CHANGE DISPLAYTITLE OF GAYLORD DUBOIS PAGE TO GAYLORD DU BOIS

FULLROOTPAGENAME appears to be protected.

And I wouldn't know how to do it anyway.

Can someone please change the displayed title of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_DuBois so it becomes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord_Du_Bois?

I'm in over y head. Sorry.

~Dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Porta (talk • contribs) 05:33, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Gaylord Du Bois is already a redirect to Gaylord DuBois, and the article says that he went by both names, so it not obvious that the displayed title should be different than the actual title. You should raise the question on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 06:27, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

In order to display an extra space the page would have to be moved. That would require an administrator because the target name already exists with a page history. See Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Screwy layout for ordered lists

See for example Whorl (botany). Looks like a bug triggered by left-aligned flush images. I see that with Firefox. Please investigate. The list items look unindented and stick to the image for some reason. The HTML looks OK, probably a CSS bug. Thanks. 220.246.157.2 (talk) 08:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 08:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Left-aligned image for test purposes

Ruslik has fixed the problem for the article Whorl (botany), by moving the image there from left-aligned to right-aligned. But there is a more general problem here, and I agree with 220.246.157.2, it is probably a CSS bug. I have checked with several browsers:

1. Internet Explorer 9, on Windows: No indentation. List numbers are missing appear overlaid on the image (I only realised this when I used a pale image).
2. Firefox 14.0.1, on Windows,
3. Chrome 21.0.1180.79 m, on Windows,
4. Opera 11.50, on Windows,
5. Safari 5.1.7, on Windows,
6. default browser on Samsung Android: All have no indentation, and list numbers are too close to image.

I think this is a real problem, which needs a fix to the CSS. Maproom (talk) 09:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It is expected behaviour and cannot be fixed in CSS. Rather it is a 'bug' in the CSS specification, which all browsers adhere to. The only solution is to move the listmarkers to inside the list item (default is outside), but that will create even bigger problems because list items will be misaligned in numbered lists. — Edokter (talk) — 12:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

New Features

I was active back in 2010, and have decided to return from a long WikiBreak, which was essentially retirement to me. I remember Pending Changes, and I know reader assessment boxes started showing up soon after I quit being active, but are there any other features added in the last couple of years that I need to be aware of?

Thank you. Us441(talk)(contribs) 12:28, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

replacing an old logo with a new one

We have an old logo on our page, ad I can't figure out how to upload and replace it with a new one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alvarion_logo.png

Please send instructions.

Alvarioncontent (talk) 13:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Logos are a little tricky to handle correctly because of copyright. We can do it for you. Is the new logo http://www.alvarion.com/upload/images/logo_alvarion.gif? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes!! Can you upload it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvarioncontent (talk • contribs) 06:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvarioncontent (talk • contribs)

 Done I've updated File:Alvarion logo.png. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

That logo should probably be tagged with {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Trademarked}} for failing the threshold of originality to be protectable under copyright. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:27, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Question for administrator

{{admin help}} <Your Question> my username is my real name and i am afraid of it appearing in edits for a contribution. I've tried to change my username and signature but they are still there. can i delete the contributions to avoid harassment?

--rustarpuke (talk) 13:45, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You've already done the right thing by posting at WP:Changing username/Simple. - Purplewowies (talk) 14:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Article submitted for review

I am a new contributor. I submitted an article for review on 8-16. I could see a box of notes on the bottom of my preview (but it is now gone) and I cannot find my submission on the list of articles submitted or denied articles. What am I doing wrong?? Thanks, Boca Raton PL (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You accidentally removed a } from the template at the bottom. It's been fixed and the article is awaiting a review. Jarkeld (talk) 20:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Jarkeld, for help on New Article for Review

I apologize if this is the wrong place to say thank you but here is a very big thank you! I have read some of your suggested pages and will continue to learn. I hope to add more articles and become more involved in the Wikipedia community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boca Raton PL (talk • contribs) 20:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Well you can always contact him on his talk page at User talk:Jarkeld for matters that are only of concern to him, but this way he gets some spotlight time in front of all of us =P BigNate37_(T) 21:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Changing User Names While Article is Being reviewed

Is it possible to change a user name while an article is being reviewed or is it preferable to wait until the review is completed? Thanks. Boca Raton PL Boca Raton PL (talk) 21:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple; the change would be user name, user page, user talk, user sandbox, user subpages pretty much at the same time, including hyperlinks; places where those were not linked, but merely cited in text, would not update. Dru of Id (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

August 20

Listing page for Hungary in the Olympic games

Hi there:

I just added this link to Facebook: Hungary at the Olympics. I noticed there is a flag with a Swastika that pops up next to it, so I assume someone has added a hidden image to the HTML in the header. Could you please check it out?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.176.225 (talk) 00:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I've found it, though I can't see any difference in the article as it shows directly - could you take another look, and let me know if it has gone? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ooops! No, the flag I removed should have been there - it was for the 1936 Olympics, which were of course staged in Nazi-dominated Germany. If the icon is showing anywhere other than in the appropriate place, letus know. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:00, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

File deleted for lack of license

My Commons file [File:Lee Valley White Water Centre (1st gate set, 2012 Olympics).svg] was deleted for lack of a license. When I learned of this, I accidentally re-uploaded it to English Wikipedia instead of Commons. I would like to use the same name, so I would like to delete the English Wikipedia file before uploading the identical file, with the identical name, to Commons. How do I delete a Wikipedia file? HowardMorland (talk) 02:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Never mind. Since Commons would not let me upload it there, I just used (in the article) the one I accidentally uploaded here. HowardMorland (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Templates and expansion depth

I have been around here a while but I have only now encountered the message Page exceeded the expansion depth when editing a page. Seems they all go to Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded. Currently about 16.000 pages in it. Two of the templates that seem to do it are {{Automatic taxobox}} and also {{atn}} when there is no following archive page. I am no expert on templates or coding but should this be sorted out? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this looks bad. I suggest you post at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll try that. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

highest score for spider solitaire

after playing over 2100 spider solitaire inter games. as of 8-7-2012 WITHOUT CHEATING I got a score of 1266. Ican even send you a photo of my screen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.115.41 (talk) 07:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia articles should only report on what has been previously published in reliable sources such as books, newspapers, respected news websites and such like. If your feat is no amazing that it attracts media coverage, then, just possibly, it could be mentioned in a Wikipedia article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

About a deleted page

Hi everybody, I published a page here Teun Voeten (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) the page was about the journalist and war photographer Teun Voeten.

I had been away for a couple of weeks and I didn't check wikipedia during this time. When I came back the page was deleted.

I have already left a message to the editor that deleted the page, and I'm waiting a reply. In the meantime I want to ask you for some suggestions: is it possible to have a copy of the deleted page? How? How much shall I wait before re-publish it? How if the editor doesn't reply? The page passed the control of editors and after a period in the Articles for creation was published. Now if I want to republish the same page with the corrections do I have to pass again from article for creations or can I publish it straight on? How do I know if the topic is blocked?

Hoping someone helps me. Thanks a lot for your time and kindness

Ransfortstraat (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not a good idea to have the article back, as it was deleted as being a copyright violation. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, you must have meant to notify Crisco 1492 rather than Who. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Check your email. I have sent you two. The first contains the portions of the article that were not a copyvio, meaning the entire body has been removed, but I sent you the first sentence, the section headers, the bibliography, external links section and reference section with the markup template. I then realized you might want the inline citation text with their markup, so I sent that in a separate email. Everything else was a direct copyright violation and cannot be used, nor sent. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit please

--109.153.122.104 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)My Wikipedia entry states that I am currently the Deputy Chairman of TFS Ltd, when in fact I am the Chairman and have never been the Deputy. How do I obtain the necessary correction ?

HON RICHARD ALSTON

Thank you for pointing out the error. I have corrected the page. Maproom (talk) 12:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Reference formatting

This is really only kind of some small cosmetic problem, but here we go. When giving page numbers for a source using {{Rp}} and for a statement I want to give a range of pages plus a single additional page, such as , is what I gave here the correct formatting? I simply used two instances of {{Rp}} directly behind each other. Is that the correct way to do it, or is there perhaps an advanced version of the template where I can specify more than one range of pages? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can just write out the range in one use, like this: {{Rp|215, 217-218}}, which formats as RP, takes whatever you type, so you could even use something unusual you might need like "front page" or "App. C", pp. 1" for example.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I was not completely sure about how exactly the template works, but what you propose produces exactly the result I was seeking. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Help with appearance of Wikipedia (font size) in Mozilla Firefox

About a week ago, I logged into Wikipedia using Mozilla Firefox and the size of the font on all Wikipedia pages has increased from the default size to a much larger size. When I log in using Google Chrome or IE, I do not have this problem. It is only a problem on Mozilla Firefox, which is my default and preferred browser. Other websites (e.g. Google, Facebook, etc) have not increased their font size, just Wikipedia. How can I reduce the appearance of the default font size when I log in? Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not set the font size, but leaves it up to the browser. You may have accidentally changed the text size while viewing a Wikipedia page, and now Firefox is "helpfully" using that size for all Wikipedia pages. Try View > Zoom > Reset in Firefox and see if that fixes it. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can also reset the zoom to 100% with Ctrl+0 or adjust it with Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-. Ctrl and the the mouse wheel can also change size. Many users do this accidentally. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. Rangasyd (talk) 14:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

sources

how can I obtain a source for data provided in one of your articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekwan337 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

If you want to quote the article itself as a source then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Otherwise we need to know which data and article you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

outdated information please updated

hello sir , iam making a project on telecommunications in India , and i found that one of Wikipedia page about telecommunications in India is outdated

List of mobile network operators of India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

please update this with new info at

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-08-03/news/33020038_1_second-highest-addition-subscriber-base-user-base — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.185.77.75 (talk) 14:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You could be bold and update it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Of if you are not confident in doing that, Talk:List of mobile network operators of India is the best place to suggest a change. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Setting Background color for Table Header Row

How can I set background color for the entire Table Header Row?

Actually I am trying to make a table sortable which has background color. List of districts of Andhra Pradesh

I have done some changes which are in my Sandbox

Please help me get the background colors in the layout in my sandbox from the original page.

Thanks in Advance

RajivBandi (talk) 12:51, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I made some changes to your sandbox. See if that is what you wanted. One issue remains, I can't seem to have color and unsortable for the official website column. I'll keep checking, but it doesn't really hurt to have it sortable.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the last column now. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

MHA logo

Methodist Homes for the Aged (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please can you advise how to change the MHA logo on the wikipedia page and how to change the main title on the main page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Customerservices (talk • contribs) 14:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

To change the logo, you or someone will need to upload the new logo, giving the required copyright permission for its use. (In my experience, getting copyright permissions right is difficult, and gives a lot of trouble to those who have not done it before. I wish you luck.)

I don't understand "change the main title on the main page". Do you want to change the title of the article Methodist_Homes_for_the_Aged? What do you want to change it to, and why? Maproom (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

declined submission - style

Hi!

This is my article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Caligola (music project)

İt has been declined for the third time now - the sources should be fine now, but İ don't know what about the style. What else can İ change? İ'd be grateful for a littie bit of help for İ have changed it so many times now and İ honestly don't know what else to do! Thanks to anyone who can help me!!!Andrea Schweinberger (talk) 15:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

First there should not be any trivia section per WP:MOS. The information from the trivia should distributed over other sections. Second the history section actually mixes history with information about music style, development and genres. The article is actually not so bad. Ruslik_Zero 17:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can look at The Beatles as an example. Ruslik_Zero 17:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Could it be possible to watch move logs, deletion logs etc. separately?

1. Is there any way I can see move logs or deletion logs separately in Watchlist, RecentChanges, RecentChangesLinked or anything similar?
2. Is it technically possible?
3. And does it worth proposing to include them?

Thanks in advance. ···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 15:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit count numbers are different even after subtracting deleted edits

Why does the edit count tool that is found through your contributions give very different numbers than the number you get from your preferences, even after subtracting deleted edits?--108.27.100.194 (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm seeing only a slight difference: for me, "My preferences" says 140,261 currently while the edit count tool says 140,451. I think this is because the two methods count page moves differently; see Wikipedia:Edit count. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Replag explains it precisely, I think.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 01:23, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

A new article

Hello,

I just finished creating a new article about a poet, and I can't find it by searching her name in google. How can I see it? does it take time? Also, when I write her name on google, one of the sites that it does link me to, is to my sendbox where I practiced editing the article. I deleting what I wrote in the sandbox but I still see a link to that page, and to the image of her that I uploaded to wiki. thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, her photo file that I uploaded to wikicommons and then transfered to Wikipedia is seen as an entry when I write her name on google: File:Rachel Tzvia Back.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - how can I delete it from there? thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It takes time for the Google search engine to update its cash. You should wait for a few days. Ruslik_Zero 16:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{noindex}} to your sandbox, to stop it from being examined by search engine robots. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing for details. It's generally only for talk page and userspace, though. As far as changing search results to make a page rank higher or lower, we cannot affect that, nor should we be worrying about it. We do not have any sort of arrangement with Google, their formula decides where a certain page ranks automatically. See PageRank if you're curious. BigNate37_(T) 16:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your response! can you tell me how to remove the link to her photo file on wikipedia? for some reason it also appears as a link in addition to the wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meitalklachuk (talk • contribs) 16:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why you're worried about the image showing up on search results. Given time the article will probably rank higher than the image, because it will generate more traffic. Preventing useful content from appearing on searches is counter to the goal of the Wikimedia Foundation. BigNate37_(T) 17:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

How do I submit photos?

Hi, I have additional photos of the Ameila Earhart memorial in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. Just wondering if and how I can submit them to the Amelia Earhart page, or if that is possible.

Amelia Earhart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Cheers and Thanks Talhsoma (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Except in special circumstances, we require all images to be licensed under a free licence. In those exceptional circumstances it is best that the images are uploaded here, at Wikipedia. It sounds like your images will not fall into that category, so I'd like to direct you to our sister site, Wikimedia Commons, which is where all of our free media is stored (so that every language of Wikipedia can use your contributions). They have a guide at Commons:Contributing your own work that should help. BigNate37_(T) 16:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a little note, BigNate37's advice applies only if you are the photographer. If anyone other than you actually took the photos the rules become a bit more complicated. Roger (talk) 17:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah thank you for pointing that out, I made that assumption without even realizing it. BigNate37_(T) 17:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano's page was vandalized

Doreen Giuliano's page, the URL listed here, was recently vandalized. If you look at the history of the page, you will see that the page has been tampered with and things have been changed. I would like to get this fixed as soon as possible and also protect this page from this happening again. Can someone please tell me how to properly report this?

I would also like to protect her son, John Giuca's, page from vandalism as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdavis2 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

thanks.

Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I need someone to help me please- the page has been altered and we need to have it changed back and protected as soon as possible. See the link here:

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The vandalism has been fixed, however we would still like this page to be protected from this in the future. Can someone please tell me how to go about doing so?

Thank you.

Mdavis2 (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have undone one edit made in April, and will keep an eye on both this article and John Giuca. However, the article is unlikely to be protected from editing after only one bad edit. This is, after all, the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and other editors should be free to improve the articles in any way they see fit, subject to Wikipedia's policies. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I got a message saying I edited something (or someone at my ISP address did) yet I did not, what is going on?

I received a message when I logged on to wikipedia (no idea why I would receive a message), it took me to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.73.124.82&redirect=no

I have never edited any article on wikipedia, I don't even have an account. I don't have any desire to edit wikipedia either. Why is it saying that I did this when I did not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.73.124.82 (talk) 19:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Most people have Internet providers that change the IP address (which identifies you) every time you connect to the Internet. Most times they reuse addresses, so someone else made the edit and now that you have the address, you have got the message. This has happened to me as well. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 19:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

This is explained in the box at the bottom of your link. The edits by the IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/178.73.124.82. The message is about a 2011 edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.73.124.82 (talk) 20:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Trusts

where does the trust go after someone dies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.93.77.233 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Next time, ask in the Reference Desk, but look at Trust law. Us441(talk)(contribs) 19:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

August 21

Bo Guagua's nationality is UNKNOWN.

why did they call the following "vandalism?" this is so ridiculous!

examples, collapsed by Mdann52 (talk) 05:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Bo Guagua student visa expired in 60 days after his graduation in May of 2012, where he is, no one knows. you can't prove that he is currently in china, either. so if he is staying in the usa legally or illegally, no one knows. therefore, you can't say that his nationality is chinese unless you can prove it. $100,000 paid for guagua.com this part was also deleted by the pro-communist administrators. In 2010, he paid $100,000 to buy guagua.com from Antonio Marin, a 53-year-old university administrator from Tenerife, Spain. EF∙Royal Cornell 2009 Big Ben Award and Ten Outstanding Chinese Young Persons Selection in the UK Charity Ceremony the following part is also deleted by your administrators. show me the reasons why they can't be posted. --- According to Taiwan Apple Daily newspaper, the award he won was entirely fake. On May 9th of 2009, a charity organisation registered in UK - British Chinese Youth Federation (BCYF), whose owner is Yinya Li from city of Fuzhou of Fujian province, gave Bo Guagua an award during the first annual "EF∙Royal Cornell 2009 Big Ben Award and Ten Outstanding Chinese Young Persons Selection in the UK Charity Ceremony (TOCYP-UK)". at Le Meridien Hotel Piccadilly in London. No one from the UK government or any UK royals were present during this ceremony, but Chinese Consul Jin Shihong and his wife, the director of the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office in London - Hu Baozhu, representatives from the Malaysian Embassy, the Taipei Representative Office and Singapore attended the ceremony. The five judges were: Lord Tom Pendry, Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office in London - Hu Baozhu, Chairman of 48 Group Club Stephen Perry, Dr Xiaojiu Zhu who doesn't have a law degree who was hired as a legal counsel and to provide notary service for BCYF. , and the owner of BCYF. Marco Fu was also given the award, even though he lives in Hong Kong, and is a Canadian permanent resident. Daniel Jacoel who was the chairman of the 48 Group Club Young Icebreakers, was also given an award. Let Me Be Me performed during the event. This event was only widely reported by news media in mainland China. Most mainland Chinese were given the impression that he won the award that was given by the UK government. After 2009, British Chinese Youth Federation second web site (http://www.bcyf.org.uk) has ceased to operate. Their first web site ukbcyf.org expired. The web site of second annual EF∙Royal Cornell Big Ben Awards for the Top Ten Outstanding Young Chinese in the UK was moved to a web site based in China. . Meanwhile, Big Ben Award Corporation started to offer awards to Chinese all over the world. Its English page is still empty. Their Chinese page "Contact Us" has no name, phone number or email address listed. Both web sites are registered to Yinya Li. The current address for "Big Ben Award Corporation" is located in a dental office in London.

You may or may not have something worth saying on this issue, but either way, this is not the correct venue for it. Instead, please raise your concerns at Talk:Bo Guagua. --Jayron32 01:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

the pro-chinese communist party people have protected that page many times. the talk page is useless, because no one reads them. therefore, i want to know why those paragraphs are considered as "vandalism" even though they all have web sites which you can verify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC6B:6B90:4D70:9DFC:84BF:5CEF (talk) 01:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

If you are having a dispute, you need to raise the issue at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard or use one of the other methods described at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Please note, however, that if you have a valid point to make, then no one will listen to you if you cast aspersions or otherwise claim that other people have bad motivations for the work they are doing, as you have done above. In other words, keep a level head, don't attack others, and assume good faith. If you do as you have done here, people will ignore your valid concerns about the content of the article. Take it as a word of advice: you instantly lose your side of the dispute when you resort to name calling. So don't do it. --Jayron32 01:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The admins deletes these contents because they violates WP:BLP & WP:OR.--Jsjsjs1111 (talk) 05:42, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

wikipedia can NOT verify that he has a chinese passport!

he is assuming still living in the usa, and if he has a student visa, that expired after 60 days after he graduated. therefore, either he is an illegal alien or he has a green card. no one knows where he is now, if he has a chinese passport or not. you are just assuming that he still has a chinese passport! that is wrong, that is called rumor, and speculation.!

how can wikipedia prove that he still has ａchinese passport? did you people see it in person?

and you can't prove ANYTHING that i wrote is NOT true. go ahead, prove it to me that any part that I added was "vandalism". this is ridiculous. you can verify everything i wrote with those web sites that i added.

also, he won the FAKE award, you people put it as if that award was really given by the UK government which is not true at all. that FAKE award was given by a chinese who lived in the UK, who used the name of UK to give him a "UK top 10 chinese" award.

your site is spreading fake information, LIES instead of the truth about him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC6B:6B90:9DC7:EFBF:B01:ECB9 (talk) 00:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Gary Kong Elkerton

I submitted a Gary Kong Elkerton entry, which was approved and put up as Gary Elkerton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Elkerton. However, the person's legal name is Gary Kong Elkerton and the title page should reflect this. I simply cannot follow/execute the instructions on how to correct this. Thanks for helping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterSkySky1414 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The page Gary 'Kong' Elkerton (surfer) already exists and was renamed to Gary Elkerton with a redirect left behind. You can ask User:Joe_Roe on his talk page why he moved it. RudolfRed (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I suspect that most of his reasoning is going to lie with WP:COMMONNAME. Dismas|^(talk) 02:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a verifiable source that "Kong" is part of his legal name? All sources I can find indicate it's a nickname, for example [2]. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I have the legal documents pertaining to his name which is (under the auspices of Births, Deaths and Marriages in the state of New South Wales, Australia) Gary Keith Kong Elkerton. Naturally, there are privacy issues attached to me making this actual document public, though his legal name may be verified by the relevant NSW government department. He altered his name to legally include his (previous) nickname some time ago. Put plainly, people wishing to research this person are unlikely to search for him without inputing the word Kong, which is the name he has been commonly known as for 35 years. Advice regarding next steps, most appreciated... — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterSkySky1414 (talk • contribs) 06:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I have moved your second post to the existing section. Please click the "edit" link to the right of a section heading to continue a discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I have redirected Gary Kong Elkerton to Gary Elkerton. WP:COMMONNAME doesn't require use of the official name and WP:BLPPRIMARY says to not use public documents as primary sources. If a reliable published source like a newspaper has mentioned a legal change of name then it can be mentioned in the article, but I see no need to change the article title. There are lots of Google hits on "Gary Elkerton" and people entering "Gary Kong Elkerton" will now go directly to the article via the redirect. It appears most Google hits on "Gary Kong Elkerton" write "Kong" in quotes to indicate a nickname. If he has changed his legal name then it doesn't appear to be commonly known. I see you created the article [3] with the unsourced claim "that these days his legal name is Gary Keith Kong Elkerton". Apart from the article itself I get zero Google hits on "Gary Keith Kong Elkerton" so I will remove the name unless you can produce a published source. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

After translate, it become blocks...

Here, it's Template:Timeline_of_iMac_models
Then when I input any Chinese word, it all become blocks.
See here: That one on the Chinese wiki
Anyone know how to fix it?
by L19980623 (talk) 03:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean the text in the Chinese version? That looks like the standard output when your system doesn't have the font that the page is trying to use to display the Chinese characters. Dismas|^(talk) 03:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yep you're right. I don't know where to specify those fonts (even I haven't seen it in the source code. by L19980623 (talk) 03:08, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

It shouldn't be in the source code for the template. It's the computer that you're working on that doesn't have the necessary font. Dismas|^(talk) 03:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Seems bad. Cause I already installed those fonts on my computer. It seems the "EasyTimeline" doesn't support non-English words. Here I need a solution than make these Chinese word dispaly well by L19980623 (talk) 03:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Right, this is a limitation in the EasyTimeline extension and not in your own computer. See mw:Extension:EasyTimeline#Unicode and mw:Extension:EasyTimeline/syntax#Font support. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Almost got it, but no solution exist? :( by L19980623 (talk) 03:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

No solution with EasyTimeline as far as I can tell. You could combine an EasyTimeline graph with Chinese wikitext outside the graph, for example made with zh:Template:Legend, but it would be more complicated and not look as good. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Umm that's bad. How about done this work without EasyTimeline (use other tags)? by L19980623 (talk) 04:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

s...m...l

5 fleet in cetimetar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.225.214.129 (talk) 10:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

F...r...v 12 grogs in moretiletfdr? Did your keyboard just sneeze? Gesundheit. Umm, there's a feet to centimeters calculator here. Best I can make out from your post. You can find such unit converters for pretty much any unit comparison by typing "converter" or "calculator" and the measurement unit types you want to compare into Google.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I wonder if "s...m...l" is Small, Medium, Large. Maproom (talk) 17:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, could be, could be. Very not obvious though:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Trying to link to Nick Harkaway

Hi,

I've tried to link to this talk by Nick Harkaway about his book 'The Blind Giant' (discussed in his page), but my edit has received a filter. As the video is just a free talk given by Nick Harkaway (which he gave consent to be recorded), I cant imagine why it would be a problem to link to it? I have never edited wikipedia before - should I just go ahead and publish anyway?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by DShed (talk • contribs) 11:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean by "received a filter". When I look at the article, I see the link there, and when I click on the link, I get to view the video talk. Maproom (talk) 12:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Your edits are being reverted because you appear to be linking to a website to which you are connected (judging by your username). --Orange Mike | Talk 12:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Maproom, you can click "filter log" at Special:Contributions/DShed to see edit filter logs. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks so much for your replies. I am connected to the website, yes - I am the publisher of this content. However, I am not promoting the organisation (which incidentally, is a not-for-profit organisation and charity) - I am promoting the content, which is free to view and directly relevant to the page in question. So, to give an example; the content that I have linked to in the Nick Harkaway wiki page is the intellectual property of Nick Harkaway. We do have his permission to publish this content, but we are not employed by him, and there has been no exchange of monies regarding the publishing or dissemination of this content. It feels like a grey area to me. Obviously, I do not want to breach any etiquette here (hence my enquiries about this) but I am assuming that sharing relevant links is acceptable here as I am sharing content of which I am the publisher, but not intellectual property owner?

Thanks again for your advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DShed (talk • contribs) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP:EL#ADV. Note that Wikipedia makes little distinction between commercial and non-commercial promotion: anything which looks like promotion is frowned on, no matter how worthy. --ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

comms between submarines and frigates in WW2 (known as SST)

Wanted, info on use of this system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.121.45 (talk) 14:10, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

How about a please?--ukexpat (talk) 14:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 16:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

This help desk is manned by volunteers, who are happy to help people needing assistance editing Wikipedia. A little courtesy is helpful, especially when you aren't even in the right place for such a question.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Bellevue Washington article

I posted changes to the Bellevue Washington article in the section on the Economy. These were deleted/undone. I am the Economic Development Director for the City of Bellevue Washington and the original author of the content. Yes, much of the same information appears on the enterpriseSeattle website in the city profile section. How can I have my edits restored? Today, I also added to the list of external links. 12.17.152.3 (talk) 15:14, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

See WP:DCP. Ruslik_Zero 17:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Partial histomerge required

Hi, I've been working on an article recently: User:Lil-unique1/Sandbox/4 and would to move this into the mainspace, to be located at Trouble (Leona Lewis song). However I only want the page history to contain edits dated from 16 August to present. I know the process is a history merge but i think it's something that an admin will need to do. Is there someone who could peform this for me or point me in the right direction? Many thanks in advance. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 15:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how to do a histmerge, but a small question, did you have the right sandbox? There are no edits on or after 16 August. (or, perhaps, it was completed but the admin forgot to close this?)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Its ok it's already been done! An admin editor elsewhere got back to my request from earlier. This can be closed as completed. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 17:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Why did you request a history merge instead of performing a normal merge? The article history and diffs therein are now misleading where edits to the original continued during the 16–21 August time frame. From what I can tell, you did not start with content that was originally at the current title; it was a redirect until your changes were inserted. WP:HISTMERGE#Parallel versions states "If the two pages have separate origins and simultaneous separate parallel histories before they were text-merged, they should not be history-merged." You can tell that the current title was not stagnant because edits like this one (an undo of a redirection which is now separated from the edit it undoes by substantial edits by Lil-unique1). Unless I'm missing something, this should just have been a normal merge. BigNate37_(T) 17:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Let me correct myself; I see why a normal merge was undesirable: your sandbox has (had) irrelevant history in it. The history merge was still a poor choice, mind you. Splitting the pertinent history out into a new title and merging that would have been better. I suppose that the lesson here is to start with a fresh user subpage when writing on a new topic for articlespace. BigNate37_(T) 17:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I requested a history merge as that's what has been done in the past. In the music project people often create pages for song's which are to be releaed in the near future but then are redirected because they are not notable. So often users work on the pages in their sandboxes/userspace and in the past when I've tried to move articles back to the mainspace i've been told that history merge copies over the edit history as opposed to just copy and pasting the article over. If that's the wrong process I apologise. I did try reading WP:History merge and tbh it isn't exactly clear for users like myself who don't have some of the technical understand/expertise that others might have. I'll definitely learn to use a new user page in the future. (i've altered my sandboxes to accomodate this in the future). — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 17:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Well I am unfamiliar with that project, so it's entirely possible there's a consensus sui generis for handling music page merges that I'm not aware of. Whether a history merge is the best solution in the situations you describe depend on a couple other factors, mostly whether or not the two articles for merging have been edited separately during the same time frame (i.e., parallel histories) and whether the userspace article's history is complex enough that it needs to be preserved (i.e., if more than one user has edited it). Anyways, you do not owe me an apology, I'm just a passerby adding my two cents with the benefit of hindsight. BigNate37_(T) 19:28, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Follow up question:history merging always be done by sysop

Is history merging always be done by sysop?

I have got another one to be history merged, I think. (But it's slightly different)

• User:Milangberg/nitroxide_{status:created first} + Nitroxide Mediated Radical Polymerization_{status:created later} --to--> Nitroxide mediated radical polymerization_{status:not created}

Can it be done by myself? Or this too be done by an admin? (Kindly check whether this merge is actually needed before doing this in reality.)

Where on WP can we experiment on big things like this? ···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 18:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators may perform history merges. These two articles are a good candidate for history merges, because they do not have a parallel history of edits, but rather the first one was simply copied into the other and then editing resumed at the newer article. In the future a better method is to move your userspace draft to the new title in article space, because the history will move with it. BigNate37_(T) 19:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

WP:HISTMERGE points at Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves, which explains how to request history merges. In this case you can simply add {{Histmerge|User:Milangberg/nitroxide}} to the top of Nitroxide Mediated Radical Polymerization. Once that is done, you can either move it to Nitroxide mediated radical polymerization, or make the latter title a redirect to the article itself. BigNate37_(T) 19:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Frank E. Snodgrass

I just tried to clean up one reference that said ibid as requested, but I seem to have now lost all my references! Can you help please and reset them back? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silvergirl27 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 18:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Iron Man: Armored Legacy

Hello fellow wikians,

Since the Iron Man: Armored Adventures has been cancelled with no third series, I have decided to open a new series called Iron Man: Armored Legacy, it will contact everything seen in the other one, it will be a sequel, by writing, not animation or comic, unless we get produced or get offered by someone to help us animate or comic the series, we are currently hiring for help and we really want this to be a success to be put on Nicktoons or some show to watch the series, I would like if the series have it's page here and get the wikians to see that a sequel is to be coming not from Marvel but soon. Please help us.

The site is... <redacted>.

Thanks, Sshalwani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sshalwani (talk • contribs) 19:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a tertiary source, which means we cannot have an article for a subject until the subject has received sufficient coverage in reliable secondary sources—this is necessary so that we can make sure our articles are verifiable. If you believe that sufficient sources are available and the subject meets our notability criteria, you're welcome to request its creation at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. BigNate37_(T) 20:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

How to strike comments

Resolved

On plenty of occasions, I want to retract my comments by striking them out because they are either rude, pointless or the occasion that I change my mind. However, I don't want to remove the comments as that could disrupt discussion.

Here's the question: how do I strike comments? Hill Crest's WikiLaser (Boom.) (talk) 19:57, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

You can use <del></del> or <s></s> tags to produce strikeout text RudolfRed (talk) 20:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, you can use Template:Strikethrough and pass the text to be striken through the template as a parameter, like {{strikethrough|TEXT TO BE STRIKEN}}, which produces TEXT TO BE STRIKEN. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Hill Crest's WikiLaser (Boom.) (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

deleted while creating first page

i'm creating my first wiki page and it 's deleted before i'm finished i saved the page to see if i had done things correctly and was about to load an image nice user friendly site are we all experts the first time around all my page Had was a name birthdate and 1 line of description while i was resizing an image to add to the page it is deleted nothing on the page infringed on any licensing rights nor was there anything that could be considered offensive by anyone — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brogreg (talk • contribs) 20:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

What page were you working on? I don't see anything in your contrib history that shows a deleted page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I suspect it was Bryanne Pearson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - it's been deleted so won't show up in the user's contribs.--ukexpat (talk) 20:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

It was deleted under one of our criteria for speedy deletion: A7, for an article on a person without any credible assertion of notability. Most actors spend their entire careers without ever becoming notable enough to have an encyclopedia article about them. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Images

Hi, the vice principal of my old high school asked if I could add the school logo to the wiki article page on the school. To add in the school info box like other schools have. How would I do that? It doesn't seem like I can add an image yet. Here is the article URL: Apollo High School (Arizona) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

DZHinLA (talk) 20:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Working on it... Dismas|^(talk) 20:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Dismas|^(talk) 20:40, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!!

DZHinLA (talk) 20:41, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Uploading photos to already existing pages.

your caption here

I am having trouble in finding my way around the site. Yesterday I managed to upload a photo which I think show the cloud formation well for a "mackerel sky". I could not work out how then to attach this photo to the relevant page, where there were 3 other photo examples. Now I cannot even find my way back to the photo that I uploaded. Can you help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmstewartwatson (talk • contribs) 20:50, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you upload it to Commons? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:08, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes it's at Commons: commons:File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg. Thumbnail at right. The syntax for adding it to an article is [[File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg|thumb]]--ukexpat (talk) 21:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit conflict] And if so, is it File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg? This image was uploaded to Commons yesterday by someone with the username of Malcolmstewartwatson. To add the photo to the page, take the whole name and put it in brackets to start off; [[File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg]] produces the first of the three images to the right. If you don't want it on the right side, type |left or |center to the image; the left side image has the code of [[File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg|left]]. If you want a caption, type |thumb|text to get it to display a caption of "text"; the second image on the right displays "your caption here" because of the code [[File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg|thumb|your caption here]]. Finally, you can change the image away from the default size by typing the number of pixels in width after the pipe character and following the number with px — the 50-pixel-wide image is produced by typing [[File:Mackerel Sky over Beaufort-sur-Doron, Savoie, Rhone Alps (Northern French Alps).jpg|50px]]. WARNING!! If you don't use either "|thumb" or a pixel size specification, it will display the image at full resolution, and your image is large enough that this is a very bad idea. Look what happened when I forgot that just now. Nyttend (talk) 21:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Altocumulus mackerel sky is already image heavy and doesn't need an additional image unless one or two others are removed. In this case the article uses a special gallery tag which works differently from the above code samples for individual images. Edit the article to see how the gallery tag works, or see Wikipedia:Gallery tag. I have added your image to commons:Category:Altocumulus clouds and added a box with a link to the Commons category in Altocumulus mackerel sky. Thanks for uploading the image. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Importing a template to a non-WMF project

I just imported (by copying; not Special:Import) {{GeoGroupTemplate}} to a small wiki where I have an account, but its complexity is a problem because the other wiki has very few templates and much less development otherwise as well; I had to create its {{coord}} with rather raw and basic code just to get something to work. As a result, http://www.bloomingpedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoGroupTemplate is just a list of coordinates websites rather than the expandable box that we have here. My questions are threefold:

1. Is there a way to get the Toolserver to recognise another wiki's GeoGroupTemplate? If you click the links in the template's sole transclusion, http://www.bloomingpedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places, you get a "No geocoded items found" message, but I'm not sure if that be because the page is new, because Toolserver doesn't know about Bloomingpedia, or because of something else.
2. Is the lack of results from the Toolserver page because of a problem with http://www.bloomingpedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord?
3. Is there a way to convert the template into a list of boxes using just MediaWiki coding? I'm not going to burden this wiki with tons of imported things, so I'll have to leave the template as-is unless I can resolve the issue simply by editing this one template.

Thanks for the input! Nyttend (talk) 22:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, note that you'll be unable to edit the pages in question: the wiki has had trouble with spammers, so anonymous editing has been disabled. If you have an idea on how to fix things, I'll be happy to copy/paste code that you write, as well as attributing you, of course. Nyttend (talk) 23:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)