Talk:Nikola Tesla

Baptism vs. birth certificate

The caption for the picture of the certificate says it's for Tesla's baptism, but the picture itself is title a birth certificate. Can somebody who reads Serbian take a look and change whichever is wrong? (Yeah, this is a minor issue, since—with his father being a priest—it's hardly in question whether Tesla was baptized; but accurancy is important in small things too.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.144.230.213 (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

The Supreme Court Opinion

Ummm... "Nine months after Tesla's Death..."?????

Who came up with that??

320 US 1 was argued on April 9-12, 1943, and finally decided on June 21, 1943.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=320&invol=1

Change it to "Six months after"...

63.230.156.31 (talk), 6 February 2012‎

interesting interview

please add some info from here: [1] - (edit added by 178.148.216.119 01:45, 20 February 2012 [2])

Serbian-American

So every German, Irish, English ... who is born in USA, and works in Croatia is German-Croat, Irish-Croat, English-Croat...ok I understand. Serbs lies are under protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.177.234 (talk) 21:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Agree 100%. He was Serbian. Living in a different country doesn't change your country of origin. I will change it to Serbian unless a thorough explanation for the contrary is provided. Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 01:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit Proposal

The paragraph discussing John G. Trump could be linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.56.75 (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

The grammar in this sentence is missing something: "If read one of an author's books, he had to read all the their books." ... perhaps Yoda has edit access? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.30.87.144 (talk) 16:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done with "he".Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:34, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 May 2012

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Shisir 1945 (talk) 04:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Done, by a bot. --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

they need to teach about Tesla in school

When i was in school and i was a little kid, i was taught that edison was all wise and nice and an electrical genius. they never told me about how edison cheated tesla out off what would equate to a mil bucks today, and just blew him off after tesla helped him. i think they should teach about tesla in school! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.87.241 (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Needs correction

"After the war ended, Tesla made predictions regarding the relevant issues of the post-World War I environment, in a printed article (20 December 1914)."

The war began in 1914 and ended in 1919. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sesesq (talk • contribs) 14:52, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Dealt with Chaosdruid (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 June 2012

Please add the following to the Tesla in Popular Culture section:

Tesla was the subject of one of the vignettes, titled "Jack Shows Meg His Tesla Coil", in Jim Jarmusch's 2003 film Coffee and Cigarettes. The vignette in question starred Jack and Meg White, of The White Stripes, and focused on Jack's efforts to convince Meg of Tesla's underappreciated genius after reeling off some of the inventor's many noteworthy contributions to science. The scene culminates with Jack's failed attempt to provide Meg with a demo of an air transformer (Tesla Coil) he built based on some of Tesla's original designs.

Babagoogas (talk) 03:44, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mdann52 (talk) 10:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_in_popular_culture#Allusions_3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOriginalSoni (talk • contribs) 17:35, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

The film itself is a source. Do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.61.25.254 (talk) 10:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 July 2012

In the personal life section, the paragraph on Tesla's interaction with pigeons is repeated.

Is there a Mountain named after Telsa?

Know,theres a Tesla Elelectric car brand name,a tesla moon crater too and even a tesla aunable to find a Mt.tesla anywhere on search. no tesla mounatin why not?Thanks!Moiamme (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Tesla Motors mentioned twice

I noticed there are two mentions of Tesla Motors in the "Legacy and Honors" list. I am unable to edit the article due to it being semi-protected. Could someone please correct this error? U. E. Aduan (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done MrX 21:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

VTOL invention?

Changed this and reverted back to it because VTOL classification includes fixed-wing aircraft as well as helicopters, so Tesla is not the first instance of VTOL by a long shot. Also the entry should not be ref'ed to primary sources (patents) - it needs reliable secondary sources, one now provided (see WP:PST, WP:RS). Secondary source provided states "Contrary to popular Tesla myth, this concept was not the inspiration for vertical-takeoff-and-landing craft...", that "to my knowledge this is the first time anyone proposed a turbine on a rotorcraft", and "The other thing that’s lacking is a way of compensating for torque reaction, which means it could never be practical". Looks like info should be added to Tiltrotor. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 02:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The 1913 Tesla quote at that source is quite interesting: "You should not be at all surprised if someday you see me fly from New York to Colorado Springs in a contrivance which will resemble a gas stove and weigh almost as much."— Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 July 2012

Marconi signal was received 1901 at Signal Hill, St. John's, Newfoundland ... not Canada as stated in the article. Canada did not join Newfoundland until 1949.

Proposed change: replace 'Canada' with 'Newfoundland'.

64.80.139.76 (talk) 16:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done also linked. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict on trying to make the same change. The link is now refined, anyway. Rivertorch (talk) 17:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Now refined further. I have gone the whole hog here - please trim back if necessary. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

That works too. I thought there might be some value in linking directly to a passage that described the political status of Newfoundland in 1901, but your wording seems less awkward. Rivertorch (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Am tempted to swap the detail from the Colorado Springs section to the Wardenclyffe section, as that would better support the chronology? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Tesla's signature

I removed the illustration of Tesla's signature TeslasSig666.png and accompanying description from the article because of WP:NPOV, namely "shows Tesla's ego/demonstrates his serious-mindedness" opinion was stated as fact without in text attribution, and it is the opinion of one author (Marc Seifer) making it a tiny minority view (of one) (WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV, WP:UNDUE). Also this seems to have been copied directly from the source which is an even bigger reason for removal (see WP:COPYVIO, Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 21:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I must say I have to agree. This seems to be some kind of single case psycho-analytic-graphology that is quite unjustified here, perhaps even in the original source. If anywhere one signature, as "egotistical" as you like, belongs in the info box here. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I concur. There are a few other places where this article needs similar editing. There's a fair amount of trivial detail lifted straight out of some of the cited sources. Some of the biographical source material employs a substantial amount of poetic license, often bordering on the sensational. I can't think of a good reason to include all of it in an encyclopedia article. MrX 23:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 July 2012

Birth place of Nikola Tesla is: Serbian Military Frontier province Krajina - which was back then (in 1856) part of Habsburg Empire !!!

216.75.214.7 (talk) 11:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any source for that claim? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 16:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Personal life needs some attention

The Personal life section is becoming large and a slightly difficult to follow. I recommend that we either shorten it or break it into smaller sections, for example:

• Social views
• Religious views
• Health issues
• Personality
• Relationships
• Animal lover(?)

These are probably not the right sections, but I think Personal life needs to be condensed or organized. It's not very narrative now, probably because of the diverse editors who have contributed that the section.

Thoughts and comments are welcome. MrX 21:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Update

I have cut some of the detail from and rearranged some of the content in the Personal life section so as to, hopefully, make the section a little easier to follow. I have also broken it down into sub-sections per my above comments. I think perhaps a little more work needs to be done to make it more like an encyclopedia article, and less like a full book autobiography.

With all due to respect to the editors who have been adding the very well researched material to the article, I would just caution us to remember that less is more. MrX 12:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Tesla and the Nobel Prize

I reverted this edit (and then ended up re-editing the section) because it was not an improvement, adding un-referenced claims re:Tesla/Marconi/assistant and copy/pasting dubious material from other Wikipedia articles. Also Guglielmo Marconi and the American Supreme Patent Court have nothing to do with the Tesla patent rumor. We need to not reference this stuff to more dubious or primary sourced material/opinion, other Wikipedia articles, or Tesla himself for that matter (WP:PST). Also articles don't need colloquialisms such as "fourth estate" (WP:TONE). "Nikola Tesla Research" may be wrong, we seem to have the same story twice 1912/1915... did this happen twice?

There are problems from the old version of this section. It starts with an un-referenced "Since" statement. "Some sources have claimed" is WP:WEASEL, it only references one source - Seifer, and there are other versions of this story not covered[3]. There is also no reference anywhere that this was a "Nobel Prize controversy". I have edited it back to "rumors", since that is what comes up in reference. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 21:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Baldwin replaced Chamberlain?

The paragraph dealing with Baldwin and Chamberlain is seriously wrong and should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.54.229 (talk) 13:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

What corrections do you think are needed? Do you have reliable sources to support the changes? MrX 13:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Um, the sequence of British Prime Ministers was MacDonald - Baldwin - Chamberlain - Churchill? Or are we talking about the sequence for some other office? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand now. I have removed most of the paragraph as it was unsourced anyway. This is what I removed:

Removed Content

He also offered this invention to European countries. Tesla revealed that he had carried on negotiations with Prime Minister Chamberlain for the sale of his teleforce weapon to Great Britain for $30,000,000. He was convinced that Mr. Chamberlin would adopt the device as it would have prevented the outbreak of the then threatening war, and would have made possible the continuation of the working agreement involving France, Germany and Britain to maintain the status quo in Europe. When Chamberlin failed to retain this state of European equilibrium, Baldwin replaced Neville Chamberlin as Prime Minister of Great Britain to make the effort to shift one corner of the triangle from Germany to Russia. Baldwin found no virtue in Tesla's plan and ended negotiations. None of the governments purchased a contract to build the device and Tesla was unable to act on his plans.

MrX 15:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

A wise move. I think this article is probably not the best place to discuss British-European politics of the late 1930s. But the assertion itself is intriguing and I would encourage any other editors to provide any reliably sourced information about contact between Tesla and the British Government during this time, particularly with regard to his teleforce weapon. That figure of $30M does seem quite outlandish, however. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The source of the story is Tesla relating it to O'Neill, and other writers have noted how it seems to be historically inaccurate[4]. Tesla/O'Neill seem to be a pretty bad combo sometimes for anything accurate (for example Tesla/O'Neill give us Tesla using the word "robot" some 20 years before the word was invented[5]). So its hard to tell whats true, whats the ramblings of an old man, or the embellishments of a biographer. Good edit though. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

first

File:Tesladeathmask.jpeg

second

The first picture is a modern and there is no point! In the section "Early years (1856-1885)" they have a four pictures, which is enough!

The second picture is a scary! The children reads this article and there is no place for a such picture!--Свифт (talk) 22:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the second photo doesn't belong in the article, but not because it will scare children (see WP:NOTCENSORED. I just don't think it adds to the understanding of the subject, especially when so many other photos and illustrations are available.

The first image is perhaps excessive, and adds relatively little to the article that could otherwise be summarized in the text of the article. Other editors may feel differently though. MrX 22:26, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request

I see this exact same sentence three times in the article, "For example, he derided Albert Einstein for claiming that matter and force are transmutable (Mass–energy equivalence), even though Archimedes and Isaac Newton had stated that they are not." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.119.87 (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Good catch. I've removed two of the redundant sentences. Let us know if you find any others. - MrX 22:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

More for the department of redundancy department. We have two accounts of Tesla digging ditches, after he quit Edison and after he was fired from Tesla Electric Light & Manufacturing. Did he just love to dig ditches or is this two conflicting versions of the same story? The references are poor (in fact one of them seems to be dead). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:31, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla

Not sure that Nikola Teala was Serbian. The reason is that on his migration to USA he filled out paperwork and stated that he was Croatian. so please check and confirm as these records as still available for viewing.His migration paperwork upon entering USA he filled out his nationality as Croatian and not in fact Serbain as your site states. Many also claim that Marco Polo was Italian, but in fact he was also Croatian by birth. Cheers Miro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miro Rukavina (talk • contribs) 13:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

That Q belongs here--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity

 DoneSlushy9 (talk) 16:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Induction motors and digging ditches

For something that was supposed to be a Tesla "claim to fame"... induction motors and rotating magnetic fields.... it is really poorly covered in this article, mixed up with conflicting anecdotal stories about Tesla digging ditches which sounds like they were adapted from one of the semi-fiction movies on the topic. I have tried to consolidate the material, removing un-referenced ditch digging and other claims. This should all be better explained with reference and maybe consolidated more. Also "Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries... in the "War of Currents" is an un-referenced and probably bogus[6] claim, reworded those parts.. While trying to clean that up I am also noticing the description of Tesla's time/relationship with Westinghouse is very poorly covered, the dates seem to be wrong, and it is pretty much scattered across the article. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 17:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree. There's quite a lot of florid detail about his personal life, and relatively little about areas where he made significant impacts in technology. Much of this article really needs to be written in more of a summary form, and in a more encyclopedic voice. It's simply too long and detailed, in my opinion. — MrX 19:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I have to agree. The death section also needs to be condensed. Slushy9 (talk) 00:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 Aug 2012

He was working under Tivadar Puskás, not Ferenc Puskás. The former is an engineering pioneer and inventor, the latter is the famous Hungarian football player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzsfkzm (talk • contribs) 17:38, 19 August 2012‎

Not that I doubt you, but the cited source says Ferenc Puskás. Can you provide a source that says Tivadar Puskás? — MrX 21:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

From Tivadar Puskás's page on wiki: In 1879 Puskás set up a telephone exchange in Paris, where he looked after Thomas Edison's European affairs for the next four years. In Paris he was greatly helped by his younger brother Ferenc Puskás (1848–1884), who later established the first telephone exchange in Pest.Slushy9 (talk) 03:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Alma Mater

If Tesla was an auditor when he attended Charles University, is that still his alma mater?Slushy9 (talk) 00:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't so, if he only audited classes there. I think Austrian Polytechnic in Graz would be considered his alma mater. — MrX 01:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

 DoneSlushy9 (talk) 16:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Tesla/Government conspiracy theories

I have removed all un-referenced or poorly referenced Tesla/Government conspiracy theories (dif), mostly stuff on how the government stole his papers. I have seen reference to John G. Trump examining Tesla's papers, left that part, needs better ref and should probably be moved up to the Tesla death ray section.... looks like that is what Trump was looking for. All the other stuff needs to pass WP:REDFLAG to be re-added. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The claim about the liquifaction of air in the Tesla generator being "over unity" is stated as fact, but the source seems a bit suspect, and "over unity" is not fact period. Did Tesla really believe that he could get free energy/perpetual motion/over unity/thermodynamic free lunch by compressing air? or is this yet more BS. This paragraph seems to have been copy/pasted all over the web.78.128.90.154 (talk) 13:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree, in the spirit of Fountains of Bryn Mawr, I removed the original research which was apparently synthesized from the magazine article [here]

I also removed the rest of this unsourced paragraph. More cutting like this needs to occur, in my opinion. This article is becoming TL;DR-ish. I think we should be vigilant in removing uncited material, especially if it is seems speculative or related to conspiracy theories. — MrX 14:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Is this Tesla?

I found this picture of a swimming instructor online. He looks like Tesla (he did enjoy swimming) and many people online have noticed. If he is, I might consider adding the pic to the personal life section.

Slushy9 (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

We've got lots of pictures of Tesla that have good provenance; a random picture of a skinny white guy with a moustache in an 1890's bathing costume is not appropriate, unless it's got a reliable source saying it is. --Wtshymanski (talk) 15:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, there is almost 0% chance. Here are my thoughts:

• Tesla would have been about 42 years old at the time of this photo; the man in the photo looks to be about 20-25 years old.
• In 1898, Tesla was involved in inventing, having just received a large sum of money from Westinghouse. I doubt he would have needed a side job at that point in his career. Also, it was about a year before he started his Colorado Spring laboratory.
• The swim instructor has a pronounced bend in his nose, which I don't see in the other photos of Tesla.
• The ears are all wrong. Tesla had strange ears that were fairly large, angled, low on his head and stuck out slightly. The swim instructor seems to have fairly average ears.
• Rumors on the internet carry almost no weight. Reliable sources would be required, as mentioned by Wtshymanski

— MrX 15:54, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

 DoneSlushy9 (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I remove "(who might be Nikola Tesla" from the file description page. All content in Wikipedia mainspace must be verifiable - WP:V. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Electromechanical devices and principles

Cleaned up the LIST Electromechanical devices and principles developed by Nikola Tesla (dif). List needs to follow WP:LIST re: definition with matching members. List members should also be articles unless there is another verifiable criteria. Some items removed were primary source. Article links do not need references (its at the article). Linked articles that did not mention Tesla in their history section were removed. Some members were not "Electromechanical devices and principles" at all, such as airplanes. Reword statement/def "developed by" since it seems to imply invention... there are things on the list that were not invented by Tesla. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Tesla's work in Budapest, Hungary

The article about Tesla states that he has worked under Puskas Ferenc at the Budapest Telephone Exchange. There is a mistake here. Puskas Ferenc was a world-class football player in the 1950's and 60's, he wasn't in the telephone business.

The fact is that Tesla worked under Tivadar Puskás; see his wiki page. Tivadar Puskás was the inventor of the multiple switchboard used in telephone exchanges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.100.125.188 (talk) 17:07, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

 DoneSlushy9 (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Tesla's work in Budapest, Hungary

I was wrong about my comment above, sorry for the hasty post! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.100.125.188 (talk) 18:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 August 2012

Correction to spelling. On one occasion in this document Tesla is erroneously spelled "Telsa" Amarsd (talk) 20:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. — MrX 20:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 August 2012

Correction to spelling. On one occasion in this document Tesla is erroneously spelled "Telsa" Amarsd (talk) 20:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

 Not done. This was already asked and answered above and I see no other instance of this misspelling. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 21:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Societal views: Is one note enough for such a controversial point of view?

"Tesla, like many of his era, became a proponent of an imposed selective breeding version of eugenics. His opinions stemmed from a belief that humans already interfered with the natural "ruthless workings of nature", rather than from conceptions of a "master race" or inherent superiority of one person over another. His advocacy of it was however to push it further. In a 1937 interview, he stated:

... man's new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct .... The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal.[177]"

Those two controversial paragraphs are backed by only one citation (177) which is an interview by the supposed Tesla's friend Mr. George Sylvester Viereck. This article was published in the year 1937, a known period of fascist speech recrudescence. Also according to Wikipedia, Mr. George Sylvester Viereck was registered by "the U. S. Department of State as a Nazi agent". The neutrality of this segment needs to be reviewed for the sake of Tesla's article accuracy. Samooc 00:35, 29 August 2012‎

The real problem I am seeing is that large parts of the whole section, including that bit, are primary sourced, which is contrary to WP:PSTS. The next step is to delete it all and note it in talk so someone can find secondary sources on the topics. Will probably do that in a bit unless real WP:RS starts popping up. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 01:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I suspect that there are other secondary sources to back this content, and if so, I think it needs to represented in the article with due weight (summary; perhaps 2-3 sentences). As it stands, we do the subject a disservice by taking a few cherry-picked direct quotes out of context to advance an idea that Tesla envisaged some sort of new world order. — MrX 02:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

NYT quotes our article: Tesla "died penniless"

This is embarrassing, both for WP and for the NYT. See http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/science/to-keep-teslas-flame-bright-fans-return-to-his-workshop.html

Two questions:

1. what was Tesla's yearly pension income in 2012 dollars when he supposedly "died penniless?"

2. What chunk of gold was found in his office safe when opened right after his death?

(A penniless person has a pension? Owns gold? Has a safe? And an office? Yes, it was in his penniless FREAKING SUITE OF ROOMS IN A DOWNTOWN NY HOTEL!!)

Sheesh.

Don't pass on unsupported fabrications. Yes, Tesla was penniless in debt in 1916, and the land at Wardenclyffe was taken to pay his hotel back rent. But why are we using references to this to back up our article's claim that Tesla "died penniless in debt?" Yes, he wasn't a billionaire like he probably should have been, but how can this prove that he had zero money?

128.95.172.173 (talk) 19:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Those "unsupported fabrications" come from reliable sources. It's not up to us to conduct original research and try to analyze the economics of the situation. If you have reliable sources that contradict this information, please feel free to add such content to the article with proper citations. — MrX 19:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

"Those "unsupported fabrications" come from reliable sources." LOOK AT THE FIRST SOURCE. Penniless in 1916 proves he died penniless? I'll remove that one, since it has no bearing on his 1943 financial situation. I'll remove the 3rd Fox News source, since that's just the WSJ article in the 2nd source. And I'll contact teslauniverse.com, since they shouldn't be passing on exaggerations either. (And, are you contesting the claim that Tesla accepted a "modest pension" from the Yugoslav govt. You should. Hint: it was not at all "modest," don't believe me, go look up outside sources for the amount.) In other words, our article directly contradicts itself and needs to be fixed. Either Tesla wasn't penniless in 1943 after all, or the statement about his pension is wrong and needs removing. (Yes, perhaps he was penniless in the 1930s after his turbine project collapsed. That's not the issue. Or should we say "died penniless, except for his enormous pension.") Again, please answer question #1. What was his yearly pension in today's dollars? The amount appears in other external articles (but not in ours.) This dollar amount can be used to detect whether so-called "reliable" sources are passing along rumors or unsupported exaggerations.128.95.172.173 (talk)

PS, I'm motivated because I'm currently working on a "false Tesla mythology" site, and WP has at least one of the common myths: "died penniless." Maybe WP needs a separate "tesla myths" entry to help researchers separate out the significant BS surrounding Tesla?128.95.172.173 (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

128.95.172.173 (talk) 19:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)