Jump to content

Talk:Forks Over Knives: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Browse history interactively
← Previous editNext edit →
Content deleted Content added
VisualWikitext
m Anthony Appleyard moved page Talk:Forks Over Knives to Talk:Forks over Knives: Requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves as uncontroversial (//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&oldid=498732719#movereq-Forks_Over_Kniv...
clean up, archive old
Line 1: Line 1:
{{talkheader}}
{{WikiProject Film|American-task-force=yes|class=Start}}
{{WikiProject Film|American-task-force=yes|class=Start}}
{{WikiProject Food and drink|class=Start|importance=low}}


{{ archive box |
==Criticism==
# [[/Archive 1]]
"The scientific basis of the film was thoroughly criticized by Denise Minger in her blog.[6]"
}}
Why on earth is Denise Minger mentioned? She is not a nutrition professional, scientist, journalist, or in any career that matters, or would make her an authority on this topic. If I were to hazard a guess, I would bet she entered the reference herself. The blog post linked is basically a book report; she offers no critical insight or valid scientific insight. Rather, her rebuttals read like a sardonic teenager using phrases like "Nice job screwing it up", "Fo’ sho’", "Oh, but it gets better.", or "Well, golly.". Such verbiage would be better suited to a rebuttal of the Kardashian Wikipedia article. I recommend that this reference be removed. This girl would never be referenced in a hard copy encyclopedia.
[[Special:Contributions/128.119.55.8|128.119.55.8]] ([[User talk:128.119.55.8|talk]]) 14:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

:There certainly should be a space for criticism of the film. I don't know of anything published about this, however. Several of the studies mentioned in the film as key evidentiary points have since been changed - long before the movie was made - so there should be some citable criticism of the movie. And I say this as a practitioner of 'eat whole food, mostly plants,' style diet. [[Special:Contributions/76.21.107.221|76.21.107.221]] ([[User talk:76.21.107.221|talk]]) 05:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

::I agree, but such criticism should be given by someone with a degree in nutrition, in a peer-reviewed article, or by a similarly qualified source. Denise Minger does not by any stretch meet those criteria! [[Special:Contributions/71.192.214.133|71.192.214.133]] ([[User talk:71.192.214.133|talk]]) 16:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


Our cavemen ancestors had no disease and ate only plants like Disney lions. Quick destroy the archaeological skeletal remains with arthritis etc and cooked animal remains.
The "natural" evidence is obviously cooked.

:Which is sad. Because the vegan topic DOES have a rationale scientific socio-political basis in truth. That being that the planet can support more people on vegan basis than high carnivorous slant to omnivore. I can remember the idea presented in schools in the 1960s before they resorted to propaganda based on testimonials and manipulated "evidence". Nowadays the public opinion experts say use any lie to sell your ideological truth and to remember emotion is more powerful than logic. (I can present a film of graphic digestive disease and results that would probably convince many "delicate" people not to eat at all.)

:Of course the sad part of that ideological truth is that its pure procrastination on worldwide human population control. The human population levels supported by a vegan life-style actually will make every dimension of the final crisis MANY times worse. Humans will be able to totally crowd out all higher animals by eating plants. And in doing so erase much of the elasticity of the bio-sphere to rebound with some higher lifeforms support after the human overpopulation finally crashes things.

:Vegan means the end of the earth can look like a nearly completely paved over urban area except for dusty areas that used to be high concentration vegan farms (organic farms will clear out animal habits but then be replaced by gene engineered production.) No land animal larger than a rat is expected to survive nor any natural land plants. The seas may well suffer similar fate depending on how accessible all areas become. Life will likely continue after humans but it well not be higher than single celled life after the Vegan apocalypse happens. Carnivorous diets at least mean the human population will crash while some sort of higher land animals still live. [[Special:Contributions/72.182.15.249|72.182.15.249]] ([[User talk:72.182.15.249|talk]]) 02:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Pretty silly movie, they keep saying Casein = Animal protein, but really, Casein is more related to Gluten (from your favorite grains) than any other animal protein. Also the plant diet is only good because it eliminates refined sugars, ANY diet that reduces sugars will be healthier than what you ate before. So ye, a criticism tab should definitely be added. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.95.9.240|82.95.9.240]] ([[User talk:82.95.9.240|talk]]) 21:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Sean O'Connell==
WHY is Sean O'Connell of The Washington Post mentioned here? He goes down into history as the one critic that has never anything nice to say about any movie that she reviewed so why bother now?

I think we should put Sean on a liquid plant based diet for a while with occassional servings of hemp infused rubber chicken with cow bile reduction <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/166.203.62.251|166.203.62.251]] ([[User talk:166.203.62.251|talk]]) 10:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==Celebrities reception==
Various sources ([http://www.ecorazzi.com/2011/12/06/eliza-dushku-goes-vegan-after-watching-forks-over-knives/ here] for instance) indicates that the documentary has convinced several celebrities to become vegan, Russell Brand, Eliza Dushku, Ozzy Osbourne, Carrie Ann Inaba. Should this be included ? --[[User:Joancharmant|Joancharmant]] ([[User talk:Joancharmant|talk]]) 16:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:02, 16 September 2012

WikiProject iconFilm: American Start‑class
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.FilmWikipedia:WikiProject FilmTemplate:WikiProject Filmfilm
StartThis article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the American cinema task force.
WikiProject iconFood and drink Start‑class Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink
StartThis article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
Food and Drink task list:
To edit this page, select here

 Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:
Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Forks_Over_Knives&oldid=512992496"