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I wouldn't even know where to begin to find sources for this kind of stuff. I'm not sure if a citable paper exists for most assertions on this stuff. Maybe a few about flame temperature exist, but all are paywalled that I could find. Maybe patent filings could mention smoking, or not. Really, I feel that common sense combined with using wikilinks (possibly as actual sources). Or maybe I suck at researching, but all the google stuff I sifted through was ultimately linked to forum postings and such. So, I apologize for the volume of uncited statements, but if it's gonna be mentioned that we use torch lighters for creme brulees, then it'd be incomplete to not also mention its applications in smoking hard drugs - for people who smoke their primary drug, torch lighter can be a necessity. For some hashish, anyway, a regular Bic lighter, or even several, can't do more than melt the shit (by that type of method, at least)
I wouldn't even know where to begin to find sources for this kind of stuff. I'm not sure if a citable paper exists for most assertions on this stuff. Maybe a few about flame temperature exist, but all are paywalled that I could find. Maybe patent filings could mention smoking, or not. Really, I feel that common sense combined with using wikilinks (possibly as actual sources). Or maybe I suck at researching, but all the google stuff I sifted through was ultimately linked to forum postings and such. So, I apologize for the volume of uncited statements, but if it's gonna be mentioned that we use torch lighters for creme brulees, then it'd be incomplete to not also mention its applications in smoking hard drugs - for people who smoke their primary drug, torch lighter can be a necessity. For some hashish, anyway, a regular Bic lighter, or even several, can't do more than melt the shit (by that type of method, at least)[[User:Mr0t1633|Mr0t1633]] ([[User talk:Mr0t1633|talk]]) 20:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

As for the section I added about drug usage, I would welcome any attempts to trim down the drug use section and/or make attributions for the article in general. Thanks - [[User:Mr0t1633|Mr0t1633]] ([[User talk:Mr0t1633|talk]]) 20:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


:Here is a [http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT4069006&id=Vn4vAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=torch+lighter&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q=torch%20lighter&f=false patent application] for something at least similar to a torch lighter. Cant tell from schematics and stuff and don't know WP policy on linking patents.
:Here is a [http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT4069006&id=Vn4vAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=torch+lighter&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q=torch%20lighter&f=false patent application] for something at least similar to a torch lighter. Cant tell from schematics and stuff and don't know WP policy on linking patents.

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As for the section I added about drug usage, I would welcome any attempts to trim down the drug use section and/or make attributions for the article in general. Thanks - Mr0t1633 (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I wouldn't even know where to begin to find sources for this kind of stuff. I'm not sure if a citable paper exists for most assertions on this stuff. Maybe a few about flame temperature exist, but all are paywalled that I could find. Maybe patent filings could mention smoking, or not. Really, I feel that common sense combined with using wikilinks (possibly as actual sources). Or maybe I suck at researching, but all the google stuff I sifted through was ultimately linked to forum postings and such. So, I apologize for the volume of uncited statements, but if it's gonna be mentioned that we use torch lighters for creme brulees, then it'd be incomplete to not also mention its applications in smoking hard drugs - for people who smoke their primary drug, torch lighter can be a necessity. For some hashish, anyway, a regular Bic lighter, or even several, can't do more than melt the shit (by that type of method, at least)Mr0t1633 (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a patent application for something at least similar to a torch lighter. Cant tell from schematics and stuff and don't know WP policy on linking patents.
And one that was the first result for 'temperature torch lighter' was this paywalled paper. Again, can't really tell what it is. Better to just post it here than to cite a source that may not prove your point, and thus risk having only the illusion of citation.
It should at least be easier than I thought a while ago to establish the usages of torch lighters in smoking. I'll amend main article to mention cigars as there was a patent for a torch lighter for cigars. I'll cite that one, though, as it's unambiguous. Mr0t1633 (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]