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== Armenian Patriarch speaks at symposium ==
== Armenian Patriarch speaks at symposium ==
Hi Fadix, if you haven't read and if you are interested you can find the patriarch's speech in my talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yce#Armenian_Patriarch_of_Istanbul_speaks_at_Erciyes_University page]. [[User:Yce|Cansın]] 3 May 2006
Hi Fadix, if you haven't read and if you are interested you can find the patriarch's speech in my talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yce#Armenian_Patriarch_of_Istanbul_speaks_at_Erciyes_University page]. [[User:Yce|Cansın]] 3 May 2006

:: Hi again, well, I was trying to finish my ph.d. and finally I defended my dissertation in March. now there is job search in academia which turned to be more stressful...I do not have time to contribute to articles however from time to time I follow the hot topics ;). Regards. [[User:Yce|Cansın]] 4 May 2006


== Armenians living in Turkey ==
== Armenians living in Turkey ==

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Demonising Turks

It is obvious from certain Wikipedia articles that many people are using it as a vehicle to demonise Turks. Wherever possible articles derogatory to these people are being written, media and writings manipulated so that when a search is done of Google - only one version - a completely Christo-Armenia, Greek Othodox version can be found. It is seems that as in America, Armenian and Greek lobbying is alive and well here, too. What a shame that Jews, who found solace in the Turkish Ottoman Empire, while the rest of Europe was have progrom festivals have come on board, too. It seems that all that it needs to get the Jew and the gentile on the same wagon, is to beat the tired old donkey issue of the barbarious Turk.

It wears thin.

To be honest, I don't want Turkey to join the EU. I want you and teh editors and admin that are like-minded to carry on with your actions. We need to perpetuate the misnomers and misrepresentation of the Turks. Forget the Royal Academy's exhibition last year about these people. We need to keep isolating them. Because one day you will help in ending your civilisation by cutting such a large chunk of it out.

I do hope you get what you deserve. 82.145.231.194 14:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ankaram

You should post this to the admin noticeboard, and offer it to a wider wikipedia audience. As for checkuser, it's not so much that they refuse requests from people not in the clique, but these requests are generally only used when rules have been violated. I don't think any purported sock of Ankaram has been subject to admin action yet. So I suggest you bring this to the wider community and maybe some things will come of that. Having a sockpuppet is not disallowed, so checkuser is rarely used. --Golbez 22:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree it should be posted at the admin noticeboard. I also noticed that there seems to be sockpuppetery in contributions that mainly consist of self-promotion. Bertilvidet 15:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SL

Thanks for letting me know about your wiki project plans and user Sedat Laciner. From the above comment I am guessing that you have or are trying to get admin. to watch this guys edits. I will also keep an eye on him and will contact other users and let them know about this; lets keep one another informed.--Moosh88 23:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Germar Rudolf

Some funny guy on Talk:Germar_Rudolf is trying to add POV, help welcome. --tickle me 02:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guenter Lewy

In case you didn't know already, this guy who happens to be Jewish btw also denies that gypsies were targeted specifically by Nazis: http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/HistoryWorld/European/Germany/?ci=0195142403&view=usa --Eupator 15:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I doesn't make any differences if he is a Jew or not, what makes a differences is that he is intellectually dishonnest and fabricated a so-called 'Three pillars' which when taken a closer look are rather the three arguments used by those that attempt to draw a parallel with the Holocaust, his task was to try to discredit them rather. I happen to have read his book about the Gypsies, what he does is to polarise both sufferings(Jews and Gypsies), by supporting the intentionalist thesis for one and the functionalism for the other to dismiss the charges of genocide against the Gypsies. He specifically write in that book that he does not believe that the Gypsies faced genocide. His work about the Gypsies on the other hand, really provide a lot of valuable documentation, but his purpouses was else. He took the same path in his work regarding the Vietnam war, in the second part he nearly totally fill the book with American administration apologistic trash dismissing the accusations of war crimes against Vietnamese civilians. But, it is not only the Armenian and Gypsie genocide he denies, he denies also the destruction of American Indians, in an article for example, he write that what happened to the American Indians was not a crime but rather a conflict between two different cultures. The thing here is not about him being a Jew, but rather that as a person who escaped NAZI Germany and becoming conscient of the horror of NAZI crimes against the Jews, he seem to have become alienated of empathy regarding the suffering of other peoples, even though he claims to the contrary. I won't be surprised that he later publish books denying the genocide in Cambodia or Rwanda, or dismiss the Nanking Massacre to preserve the stigmatised Uniqueness of human sufferings which he consider Jews being the sole possessors of.
Israel Charny recently answered to one of his articles, the answer was edited, which seems to be purpousful as to mislead the readers, which angered him. Fad (ix) 18:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A KISS Rfa Thanks

Thank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you!
Hello Fadix. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- Fang Aili 說嗎?

Thanks

Thanks for supporting me in my RfA. I really didn't think people appreciate my work here that much, but it's nice to see you do: my Request was closed with 66 supports and 4 opposes. I'll do my best not to turn your confidence down. If in any point in the future you get the feeling I'm doing something wrong, do not hesitate to drop me a line. --Dijxtra 11:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian Azerbaijan

File:NG-Azerbaijan.jpg
National Geographic map

Fadix, please re-add the reference to Southern/South Azerbaijan at the Iranian Azerbaijan page. I asked Grandmaster to do it, the article has said that for literally years until some anon removed it yesterday. Thank you. --Khoikhoi 17:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you don't have to re-add the 2nd paragraph, but "South/Southern Azerbaijan" is still a term used by Azeri nationalists (ultranationalists if you will), and should be mentioned. I don't think people are going to be confused, we can add a footnote if you want. --Khoikhoi 18:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I checked the Google hits for "South Azerbaijan", and most, if not all of them are refering to the region in Iran.
As for Western Armenia, I don't think it's as notable of a term today as "South Azerbaijan" is.
Here's a map that I scanned from my National Geographic atlas. Since is has the region "Azerbaijan" in Iran, it definately seems to be more notable that the southern part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. (Even though it doesn't say "South Azerbaijan")
Also, User:Zereshk pointed out that the movement for independence among Iranian Azeris is growing, therefore, the term is becoming more notable.
I'm not giving in to vocal users. There are a lot of things that I disagree with Grandmaster about, like how he handled the situation at the Khojaly massacre page, but I have to agree that the term "South Azerbaijan" is notable enough to be bolded. —Khoikhoi 22:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, fine fine. I won't get involved in that page anymore. You and Grandmaster work it out. —Khoikhoi 23:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm sorry. :( I promise that I won't, I'm just really stressed out right now with real life and the never-ending cycle of Wikipedia. --—Khoikhoi 23:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fadix, this is not dissimilar to the situation at Persian Gulf. I think the standard for inclusion of such a term is whether or not it is used by non-Azeri/Turkish sources. Personally, I doubt this. If the term "South Azerbaijan" is only used by Azeri nationalists/separatists then it certainly doesn't belong in the intro, but mentioned elsewhere in the article. SouthernComfort 23:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It could be mentioned elsewhere as with Mani's move to its own section as well. The main problem is that this term is sometimes used by academics too as it's just a simple matter of a north south thing as there are two Azerbaijans today and it's easy to say it as South Azerbaijan if one is talking about some sort of comparison between the two. Here's something interesting though. Prof. Frye (of Harvard) wrote the articles on the two Azerbaijans in Encyclopedia Americana and the caption for Azerbaijan is about Iranian Azerbaijan and then the country is under Azerbaijan, Republic of. Clearly there is no universality, but I do agree with Prof. Frye's usage as the historical Azerbaijan was the Iranian portion, while the north was Arran. However, in modern usage since the 19th century this changed and since the two regions are interconnected with the Azeris predominating in both regions the terminology is going to change. Perhaps one could mention some of the background and I wouldn't make a big deal of the South Azerbaijan issue and the edit by SC seems like a good compromise. Tombseye 22:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Norwegian Wikipedia (Armenian Genocide)

Hi Fadix,

thanks for the message. Yes I've translated the en:Armenian Genocide article, and as I've expected , it has been a discussed subject. So far Pasja is the only one to react in a "negative" manner to the article. As you mention, he's been quite active in regards to Turkish related subjects. If you don't mind I'll post your comments on the discussion page and also make a note that one of the administrators or bureaucrats should make a decison about it. As I mentioned the article is a clear translation of the en version, and as far as I understood there are no major disputes at the moment. Thanks again for the input and I'll get back to you if we should need any further information. Babaroga 09:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks from Petros471

For a more general RfA thanks to all voters see User:Petros471/RFA Thanks.

I'm sorry that you didn't feel able to support my RfA. If you want to, I would be very happy to know why you opposed, so I know if there is anything I need to fix. Either way, please do let me know at any time how I am doing as an admin, or if there is anything I can improve on. Cheers, Petros471 21:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Fadix --Cool CatTalk|@ 15:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hey Fadix,

I was wondering if you could keep an eye on the Adana page for me. Some user keeps adding this to the article, although their source is the Turkish government. :-/ Another page is the Ardahan article, in which some user wants the Armenian name removed, calling it "Armenian vandalism". Thanks. —Khoikhoi 04:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian Patriarch speaks at symposium

Hi Fadix, if you haven't read and if you are interested you can find the patriarch's speech in my talk page page. Cansın 3 May 2006

Hi again, well, I was trying to finish my ph.d. and finally I defended my dissertation in March. now there is job search in academia which turned to be more stressful...I do not have time to contribute to articles however from time to time I follow the hot topics ;). Regards. Cansın 4 May 2006

Armenians living in Turkey

Hi Fadix, I wanted to know the general feeling or image in Diaspora about Armenians living in Turkey today. Can you help me understand this issue? Thank you. Btw I like your approach in Wikipedia, good work. Cheers --Gokhan 07:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]