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[[User:DEBORAH1111|DEBORAH1111]] ([[User talk:DEBORAH1111|talk]]) 09:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Dear Legok, thank you for stopping by my page. you have added 'The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline' I have added 44 refrences on the page and as it is mentioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources this will prove the notablity of a person the refrences are magazines, websites, books, newspapers. Thank you again [[User:DEBORAH1111|DEBORAH1111]] ([[User talk:DEBORAH1111|talk]]) 09:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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:I don't believe that those sources meet the guidelines specified at [[WP:42]], however I'll let another editor make judgement on that. [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 09:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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[[User:DEBORAH1111|DEBORAH1111]] ([[User talk:DEBORAH1111|talk]]) 10:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Legok, I forgot to say thank you again for adding the categories[[User:DEBORAH1111|DEBORAH1111]] ([[User talk:DEBORAH1111|talk]]) 10:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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:No problem! [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 10:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Hi, thank you for taking your time to help me out. There is a small problem which is that the csd articles are not enabled on the subpage (I have now enabled the twinkle for csd log). Is there any way out from this? (PS: Could you please post the reply on my talk page). [[User:Torreslfchero|Torreslfchero]] ([[User talk:Torreslfchero|talk]]) 11:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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:Have you [[WP:BYC|bypassed]] your cache? [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 11:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, I will try that. If not then I will let it as it now. [[User:Torreslfchero|Torreslfchero]] ([[User talk:Torreslfchero|talk]]) 12:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Cdfeast
Thanks for the message. Huggle really needs to let you know that you are reverting the original author. Anyway, your strikeout edit conflicted with my apology! Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 01:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oops, should have titled with Cdfeast. Jim1138 (talk) 01:44, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to do that. Happy Huggling! LegoKontribsTalkM 01:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
prod twice
Well, your prod was removed by the article's creator, so I saw myself as restoring a prod rather than starting the process again. I'm minded to keep the prod as is, since the creator seems willing to engage, and it's less of a sledgehammer than AfD or speedy Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Attack pages
Hi. Where a page is a personal attack, like the one from this user just now, don't bother with a BLP-prod, just go straight to {{db-attack}}, which blanks it, puts it in a high-priority queue for admin attention, and generates a suitably fierce warning for the attacker. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Will do. I guess I was being a bit conservative due to DGG's comments above. LegoKontribsTalkM 03:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
blp
FYI... Should never add the {{blp}} template to a talk page. The blp template is now only used by {{WikiProject Biography}}. So, please add the Wikiproject banner instead. Bgwhite (talk) 05:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. Template:Blp should probably mention that somewhere. I mainly used it since it much shorter to type when patrolling. I've created
{{subst:blps}}
which is still short but will use the WP:BIO template. Thanks, LegoKontribsTalkM 05:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)- Thank you. Not every biography gets tagged with the Biography banner, so adding it will help out. Bgwhite (talk) 06:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. I also plan on including BLP/WikiProject tagging in the list of suggestions I am sending to User:Ironholds for page curation feedback. LegoKontribsTalkM 06:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- That would be a good idea. There are a few bots and other ways to tag new biographies, but it doesn't catch them all, especially for dead people. Oliver (Ironholds) is out on vacation for a few more days. Bgwhite (talk) 07:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- I've thought about the different ways bots could be used to tag articles however they all had too many false positives (using primitive methods). Really all we need is a good NLP. It's on my list of things to think about though. And yup, he mentioned that to me on IRC a few days ago. LegoKontribsTalkM 07:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- That would be a good idea. There are a few bots and other ways to tag new biographies, but it doesn't catch them all, especially for dead people. Oliver (Ironholds) is out on vacation for a few more days. Bgwhite (talk) 07:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. I also plan on including BLP/WikiProject tagging in the list of suggestions I am sending to User:Ironholds for page curation feedback. LegoKontribsTalkM 06:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. Not every biography gets tagged with the Biography banner, so adding it will help out. Bgwhite (talk) 06:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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Rona Ambrose edit war redux
Hi Legoktm, As expected, another anonymous user 108.162.84.246 has decided that things have to be changed once they'd been worked out earlier. Plus ce change....TIA Natty10000 | Natter 22:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just saw it, will take a look. Thanks for the heads up. LegoKontribsTalkM 22:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just wondering if you're still eyeballing and had any feedback to my reply from last night? If you'd rather, it can take place here or on my talk page as you prefer Natty10000 | Natter 14:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nvrmnd (unless sheer bloody-minded curiousity drives you :) ). Natty10000 | Natter 17:22, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just wondering if you're still eyeballing and had any feedback to my reply from last night? If you'd rather, it can take place here or on my talk page as you prefer Natty10000 | Natter 14:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Articles for Creation barnstar | ||
For your impressive efforts at WP:AfC/R. Thanks, and keep up the good work! Huon (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC) |
- Heh. I just gave this to the editor who requested all of the redirects. Regardless, thank you Huon! LegoKontribsTalkM 23:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the barnstar. I was in a bunch of on-wiki conflict over the weekend, so I decided to get away from all of it for a few days and stay away from WP unless logged out. Couldn't think of anything simpler (or farther from the conflict in question) than requesting a lot of redirects for alternate names. Nyttend (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Where is the template to add Legobot to a talk page?
I want to ennable an Archive Index for a talkpage, but I see that HBC Indexerbot was replaced by Legobot's Task 15...and I can't find the code/template to add the Bot to the page, there doesn't seem to be a [[Template:Legobot]]. Lots of discussions about the tasks on-wiki (like Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Legobot 15) but I've been unsuccessful in finding out what the actual template is to set up the Archive-Indexing. If you could point me to where the code is or just *what* it is, that would be a big help. Thanks and Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 15:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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desubst oldafd
What happened with Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_50#Desubstitute_Oldafdfull_and_banners? Did it finish? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot about that one. Let me finish it now. LegoKontribsTalkM 22:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- I found a few problem pages and fixed them manually, but after doing some digging, it looks like User:SatyrBot screwed up a bunch of templates. Most of these have since have been touched by other editors (been nearly 5 years) so it's near impossible to mass-rollback. I'm modifying the script now to see if I can account for these broken edits. LegoKontribsTalkM 01:02, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Did a bunch just now, I'm running Legobot 21 which has a bit of priority right now since it's blocking Legobot 22, but in between I'll try and finish this up. LegoKontribsTalkM 05:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the effort. What happened with some of these tags it's another proof that he had to de-subst them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:53, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
which you prodded as being too much like a promotional essay. I took a look at it, and it was obviously professionally written, so I checked the ref to his bio on his blog, and there it was, at http://rickydillardlive.blogspot.ca/2008/01/biography-ricky-dillard.html .I deleted as G12 When something looks both smooth & promotional, I usually find something like that. DGG ( talk ) 03:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks DGG. I had PROD'd that as part of an AfC cleanup I was working on, so I wasn't really checking for copy-vios. I'll go back through all of them and check once again. LegoKontribsTalkM 04:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Sigma's RFA
Legoktm,
As you know, the RFA at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Σ, of which you were co-nominator, has identified a number of community concerns which may rise above the usual level of past unsatisfactory interactions, conflicts and personal dislikes which are typical of RFA in its current format. In particular there are concerns relating to off-wiki vandalism and on-wiki disruption of which you were presumably unaware at the time of identifying Sigma as a suitable Admin. candidate.
In view of the level of concern relating to the past activities of the candidate, it is sufficiently important to ask you to consider whether you wish to comment on whether the candidate still has the confidence indicated in your nomination statement. There is a section on the RFA Talk Page.
Rgds,
Leaky Caldron 11:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I will be raising a qusry as to whether your contacting the nominators in this manner is appropriate. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I can't find this particular comment section at the RFA, it's gotten so long - where exactly is it? Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 12:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- lEGO. Following discussion at WP:AN I wish to withdraw my query above. Your continued support as nominator is a matter entirely for you and your candidate deserves no further negative interventions at his RFA. rgds. Leaky Caldron 15:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, a lot sure happens when you're sleeping. Sorry Leaky, I'm not taking the bait this time. LegoKontribsTalkM 19:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- lEGO. Following discussion at WP:AN I wish to withdraw my query above. Your continued support as nominator is a matter entirely for you and your candidate deserves no further negative interventions at his RFA. rgds. Leaky Caldron 15:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Rules for Legobot22
In respect of the udpate rule :
{{Ir-FOP}} → {{Freedom of panorama}}
This should be the other way round, as I just renamed {{Freedom of panorama}} to {{ir-FOP}} Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, will change. LegoKontribsTalkM 19:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Enid Event Center
Thanks for editing the article and removing the content violations that I had committed. I do not wish in anyway to violate Wikipedia's policies. I would like some clarification as to why the facts regarding the lawsuits could not be included in the article: was it inappropriate content for the scope of the article, or was it my phrasing that violated NPOV and BLP? I ask this just as a learning question to make sure that I don't make the same mistake in the future! Thanks! Kiddo27 (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Soul on Fire
Hi Legoktm, thanks for your attention to James Baldwin: A Soul on Fire. Categorization and un-orphanizing (adoption) are simple enough. (Cambalachero pointed out on DYK that there are some spelling grammar issues, which I will also take care of shortly.) Can you offer some advice on making the article less essay-like? I generally tried to use secondary sources for 'interpretation' of the play. Thanks! groupuscule (talk) 05:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. I think what I first noticed was The original actors were Charles Reese as James Baldwin and Forrest McClendon as his multi-person counterpart; the director was Chuck Patterson. in the lead section. I'm not sure if that is typical for articles about plays but that seemed odd to me.
- I just finished a more thorough read through, and I'm removing the tag now as I don't think it seems that way (just that one sentence). And I bet anyone at DYK can give you better advice than I can. Sorry about that! LegoKontribsTalkM 05:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem, and I'm glad you pointed that out, because I worried that the description of "ETHEREAL" as Baldwin's "multi-person counterpart" might be too confusing for the opening. Now I know it's too confusing. So I'll see if there's a better way to word that. Salaam, groupuscule (talk) 05:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
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Destined for Oblivion
Hello, my first is the author of this book and I was trying to list it online for him. But you speedy deleted it... Should he submit it himself them? Thanks. Gibby — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profgibby (talk • contribs) 23:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker). Absolutely not. He should wait until someone with no COI thinks the book is notable and writes about it here. (And Legoktm did not delete it.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- What RHaworth said is pretty much what I would have said. Thanks! LegoKontribsTalkM 03:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Turkish Airlines World Golf Final
Hi. I wanted to know why you added tags on that page. You motivation that was stated is vague and raises no issues. But the tags and warnings you added make the page look like as if there is some kind of a problem here. May I know what that is? Loginnigol (talk) 07:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. I added two tags, being an orphan and a POV tag. The orphan one was self-explanatory and has been resolved. The WP:POV tag is definitely vague and arbitrary, but now after reviewing the article I think there was only on major issue, and that was the phrasing of Attracting top ranked players.... I feel like that was trying to "bolster" the status of the competition. Looking at a similar article like AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am, I don't see any mention of the players who compete in that lead section.
- I think that was it, feel free to remove the tag though if you disagree. LegoKontribsTalkM 05:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- OK Thanks. The reason I added the names of players is cuz that was a prominent aspect of the tournament that got it headlines in the first place (a rare lineup of all top 5 players came together despite that the tournament has no prior history of past winners that can be listed (which is what you normally find in other tournament articles) mentioning that gives you an indication of the status of the event. Loginnigol (talk) 15:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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I've declined your speedy request, because the band actually does have an article. (I've linked it now.) Probably both band and record are non-notable - the band article is maintenance tagged. You could try prod on the record, or a speedy on the band (followed by prod and AfD in the usual course of events...). Peridon (talk) 23:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, my mistake. I tried looking for "Electric Machine" all I found was Electric machine. Probably should have looked harder. I'll go ahead and PROD both articles as being non-notable. Thanks for the heads-up! LegoKontribsTalkM 23:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
(75.22.48.212 (talk) 04:04, 13 October 2012 (UTC)) I improved the Lego clone page by deleting Mega Blos information. This is because Mega Bloks is its own company, and not cansidered Lego clone. Please remember this if you try to correct that page. Thank you.
- A somewhat lego enthusiast myself, I know that Mega Bloks is a lego clone, regardless of whether it is a separate company or not. Though I have added a
{{ref improve}}
tag to the page. LegoKontribsTalkM 04:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Sockpuppet
Thanks for helping me with my sockpuppet case, I'm still kind of new so I don't know how the cases work.Greaymarshess (talk) 08:59, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Let me know if you have any other questions. LegoKontribsTalkM 09:04, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested on my talk page, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:43, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification, I'll take a deeper look into it now. LegoKontribsTalkM 23:51, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
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Notability
DEBORAH1111 (talk) 09:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Dear Legok, thank you for stopping by my page. you have added 'The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline' I have added 44 refrences on the page and as it is mentioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources this will prove the notablity of a person the refrences are magazines, websites, books, newspapers. Thank you again DEBORAH1111 (talk) 09:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't believe that those sources meet the guidelines specified at WP:42, however I'll let another editor make judgement on that. Legoktm (talk) 09:54, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
DEBORAH1111 (talk) 10:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Legok, I forgot to say thank you again for adding the categoriesDEBORAH1111 (talk) 10:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem! Legoktm (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Re:CSD log
Hi, thank you for taking your time to help me out. There is a small problem which is that the csd articles are not enabled on the subpage (I have now enabled the twinkle for csd log). Is there any way out from this? (PS: Could you please post the reply on my talk page). Torreslfchero (talk) 11:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Have you bypassed your cache? Legoktm (talk) 11:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will try that. If not then I will let it as it now. Torreslfchero (talk) 12:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)