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Oh, G-d!

Oh, G-d! The characters are themselves again. Why are their alter-egos' names mentioned?

Anonymous173.57.44.147 (talk) 00:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Until otherwise differing information is published, their name's remain the way they've always been. Plus, co-creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis have confirmed that both names for the characters will be referenced/used throughout the season. LiamNolan24 (talk) 00:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings

Recently a Ratings section has been added, I feel that this section is bulky and irrelevant, due to the fact that the Episode section has individual ratings info, not to mention each episode that is made into an article usually states ratings info. I wanted to get opinions other than mine, before I took further action. Please, discuss. LiamNolan24 (talk) 02:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've been drafting a season article, and I find that some of them that have been recently promoted to GA, such as American Horror Story (season 1), include a ratings section. But at the same time, I agree with your separate episode articles sentiment. I feel that the section should be kept, but the tables nixed. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 13:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to clarify my position, I am opposed to the table because the episodes have separate articles and the info in the table is listed there. If the episodes did not have a separate article, I am totally okay with the table because it lists ratings shares (which seems important, but I don't really know) and weekly rank. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 14:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and removed the section, at least until the season commences. Please continue to discuss. LiamNolan24 (talk) 20:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thats fine. Sorry for causing any inconveneience. Could we add a ratings table when the season begins airing in the States??? Thanks. Liam74656 (talk) 22:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No inconvenience, as stated above we are discussing whether a Ratings table is really necessary due to the fact that each episode of the season is normally made into an article itself with extensive Ratings info. Ratings tables can be seen as tacky and irrelevant, and I can not find hardly any examples of them on Good or Featured like articles. LiamNolan24 (talk) 23:08, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It really is a shame to lose ratings shares and weekly rank info. I think those three bits of information -- total viewers, rating shares, and ranks -- are more meaningful when presented together and can be compared to previous and subsequent weeks. I only wish there was a different way of presenting it. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 21:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merp. Just realized I'm flip-flopping a bit on this issue.... ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 21:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I completely understand what you're saying. Perhaps a separate article should be made specifically for Once ratings, a best of both worlds scenario. LiamNolan24 (talk) 23:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Outdent) I don't know if that article would meet notability standards. And ratings lists never make it past AFD: AFD for Neighbours 2011 Ratings, Ratings of The Suite Life on Deck, List of Chuck Weekly Ratings, and it appears to be in violation of WP:NOTSTATSBOOK. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 01:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that those articles were deleted speaks to my point. I really would like to hear other's opinions. Thank you for all your research User:TenTonParasol. LiamNolan24 (talk) 03:23, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings 2.0

I firmly believe that the Ratings table/section added to this article is a redundant distraction from more especial information. I understand why some may find it useful, but useful only to a select few, which is why I deem the episodes individual articles with rating info, sufficient/efficient. Having the table in place also makes editing the article quite stressful, due to its enormity. I highly recommend removing the section. LiamNolan24 (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the Season 1 talk page and read what I have suggested for the ratings under the ratings section. Thanks.Liam74656 (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reply on season 1 talk page. 17:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Episode summaries

The episode summaries are meant as a very short, general description of its synopsis. Grant it, this synopsis can/should be longer when there are no individual episode articles. When there are separate articles they should be left very short (and according to, if at all possible, the network's press release lead), as on the article. Please discuss. Cheers, LiamNolan24 (talk) 19:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that is all incorrect information. Episode summaries at season articles should be about four lines each, more when the show's plot is complicated (such as OUAT). Please see Parks and Recreation (season 1) and Glee (season 1), two featured lists for good examples. Also, "this synopsis can/should be longer when there are no individual episode articles" is totally incorrect. For an article to be comprehensive, readers should not have to navigate to a different article for a sufficient plot summary. Take Glee for example – every episode has an individual article, yet the seasonal article's plot summaries are still long enough to be comprehensive. Finally, "and according to, if at all possible, the network's press release lead" is absolutely a fallacy – we do not base Wikipedia plot summary length on the network's press release. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that episode summaries should be based on the network's press release BEFORE that episode has aired. Also, your examples of other articles do not come into play here, we do not base every article on other articles. Each episode has a short, sufficient, efficient synopsis. LiamNolan24 (talk) 20:48, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Again, you're wrong. Actually, yes, we do model articles off of featured ones. Featured content is the model for other articles. Please review any good or featured season article; the plot summaries are 4-6 lines. What we don't model articles off of is press releases completely unrelated to Wikipedia. You obviously have a lack of content guideline knowledge, which stems from your inexperience. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your opinion. 21:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Cut the sarcasm; it's not my opinion, it's the Wikipedia standard which you are obviously unaware of. First your ratings table rant, now this. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Poster of Season 2

Can somebody add the poster of season 2

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+== Poster of Season 2 ==
+Can somebody add the poster of season 2