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Typo in review

A reviewer's typo "obstensibly" is marked "[sic]". Kinder just to correct the typo? Meaning doesn't change and it slows down the reader.

Dstlascaux (talk) 17:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

      Corrected. 24.15.117.78 (talk) 19:38, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Synopsis

This is not a synopsis, but an exhaustive summary complete with spoilers. Let's try to clean it up a little? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.25.191.170 (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this more acceptable?--Bt109 (talk) 22:11, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at WP:Spoiler. Wikipedia guidelines indicate that there is to be no warning for spoilers. –[[::User:Schmloof|Schmloof]] ([[::User talk:Schmloof|talk]] • [[::Special:Contributions/Schmloof|contribs]]) 00:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I included no such warning. I was motivated by guidelines at WP:Plot_summaries to trim out a lot of unnecessary detail. Bt109 (talk) 00:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm sorry. I meant that as a reply to the original message by the IP. I think you've done a fine job cleaning it up. Thanks a lot! –[[::User:Schmloof|Schmloof]] ([[::User talk:Schmloof|talk]] • [[::Special:Contributions/Schmloof|contribs]]) 03:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The synopsis seems very unabalanced. It focusses disproportionately on the last part of the book and seems to have muddled or overlooked key parts of the plot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.207.29.2 (talk) 08:16, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to sound snarky, but wouldn't it be nice if the synopsis was done by someone who has actually read the book (this is a pet peeve of mine: people who write synopses of books or films that clearly show a lack of familiarity with the book or film)? That might also solve the "focusses disproportionately on the last part of the book" problem, since there is a bunch more material, such as Peeta's warning (which probably fed into Coin's willingness to agree to and honor an amnesty as as condition of Katniss' cooperation) which might reasonably be expected to appear. Thus, far from being kept away from the action, Katniss' inability to act forces the propaganda film makers to film her in the field; Peeta is rescued when she figures out that President Snow will torture him more and more as each propaganda film is made and literally finds herself unable to continue making them; the decision to hold another Hunger Games for Capitol children is (IIRC) made after she has recovered, at least in the sense of being allowed to do things again, from her burns (and, hopefully, dies with President Coin, although I don't believe it was made clear whether it was held or not); Gale drops out when he realizes that Katniss, even accepting that he had nothing to do with it beyond planning that sort of attack much earlier, will always associate him with her sister's death, thus leaving Peeta the default winner of their rivalry. 65.102.152.199 (talk) 03:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Reception

I found this review-I'll cite it later, after I finish the book, if no one else does first. http://shelf-life.ew.com/2010/08/24/mockingjay-review-spoiler-alert/ --Glimmer721 (talk) 19:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Status

Since the book is now out and we have a summary and more info, this is really no longer a stub. I'm going to remove the notice at the bottom of the page and change it to start-class. --Glimmer721 (talk) 21:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that we still need some more info.

Arman Cagle^{(Contact me EMail Me Contribs)} Please remember if you have any questions, please reply on my talk page. 11:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article

I discovered this article. Could be used as references. http://shelf-life.ew.com/2010/08/31/mockingjay-ew-book-club/ --Glimmer721 (talk) 00:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Themes section

I've added in a themes section which we should expand. Hopefully this can become a featured article! Derild 49 21 ☼ 00:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also added in an inspiration and orgins section. A bit repetive by the third book, but the bread and circues was new info. I'm trying to find the article where scholastic announces the title and cover. Anyone got that. Right now I have this this and this to use. Derild 49 21 ☼ 01:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the "bread and circuses" thing was new to me, too. I'll need to but that under the section of Panem...where would I find a reference for that? --Glimmer721 (talk) 01:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This one. Derild 49 21 ☼ 13:51, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I'll site it in this section. --Glimmer721 (talk) 20:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to ad in some inforation under Promotion from this source. Thanks! Derild 49 21 ☼ 02:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in dire need of pictures. Ideas? Derild 49 21 ☼ 17:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added one of the author. Derild, I sure do hope the refs in the lead that you deleted were contained elsewhere in the article… Airplaneman ✈ 18:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I made sure to add the information first. Derild 49 21 ☼ 18:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Reviews

Here's a list of reviews with links. Some we have, some we don't. --Glimmer721 ^talk 01:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Synopsis?

What the hell happened to the synopsis section?--14.52.73.159 (talk) 17:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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+I hate to sound snarky, but wouldn't it be nice if the synopsis was done by someone who has actually read the book (this is a pet peeve of mine: people who write synopses of books or films that clearly show a lack of familiarity with the book or film)? That might also solve the "focusses disproportionately on the last part of the book" problem, since there is a bunch more material, such as Peeta's warning (which probably fed into Coin's willingness to agree to and honor an amnesty as as condition of Katniss' cooperation) which might reasonably be expected to appear. Thus, far from being kept away from the action, Katniss' inability to act forces the propaganda film makers to film her in the field; Peeta is rescued when she figures out that President Snow will torture him more and more as each propaganda film is made and literally finds herself unable to continue making them; the decision to hold another Hunger Games for Capitol children is (IIRC) made after she has recovered, at least in the sense of being allowed to do things again, from her burns (and, hopefully, dies with President Coin, although I don't believe it was made clear whether it was held or not); Gale drops out when he realizes that Katniss, even accepting that he had nothing to do with it beyond planning that sort of attack much earlier, will always associate him with her sister's death, thus leaving Peeta the default winner of their rivalry. [[Special:Contributions/65.102.152.199|65.102.152.199]] ([[User talk:65.102.152.199|talk]]) 03:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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