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2011-12 vs 2011/12 on POI page

I have made this change in accordance with WP:SLASH and WP:YEAR, and because other TV series episode pages are stylized like this (List of The Big Bang Theory episodes, List of How I Met Your Mother episodes, List of Two and a Half Men episodes to name a few). Where does this break links and where have other changes like this been reverted? I have not found another current TV series page that is not stylized that this. Even so, there are more with the slash than the dash, that I say that is consensus. Also, season two can still be renamed 2012-13 or 2012/13, regardless, as air dates have been confirmed. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

One thing that's fascinating about Wikipedia is editing trends and what I call the Lemming Effect. A month or so ago, someone came through the list articles for the US TV season and changed them all from year-year format, which is correct American English, to year/year format, citing WP:SLASH. Trouble is, SLASH was misinterpreted (a slash is only used in very specific applications and usually for periods of time shorter than a year, which WP:YEAR noted), and in American English, years are separated by a dash, not a slash, as noted several places in the MOS. However... someone saw them and the edit began to move into the TV articles, which is what you've seen. That's the Lemming Effect; someone does it, citing (however incorrectly) some policy or another, and the trend spreads. Last year it was separating within season from across season numbering with No. and #, two terms which mean the same thing and do absolutely nothing to differentiate two columns of numbers with very different meanings. Worse are the buzz phrases everyone persists in using, such as every new bit of information on a show being a revelation.

The bottom line is it's incorrect formatting (a slash is used to separate parallel terms, not sequential ones, where a dash is used, most particularly with numbers), and most of the edits like this have been reverted. That there are a few still around doesn't mean the use is correct. Be brave! Go against the trend! This is an encyclopedia where our first emphasis should be good writing in proper American English. --Drmargi (talk) 00:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

"Proper American English"?? Really? International English is spoken by far more people than Amerrrykans who persistently mispronounce even simple words. (Sorry yanks but there's no such thing as an "eemoo", and it's pronounced "Ozzie", not "Ossie". That said, until recently WP:YEAR specified that a slash was used (sorry - "oosed") for periods of 12 months or less, which is correct in the English speaking world. This is the English language Wikipedia, not the US Wikipedia. :P --AussieLegend (✉) 09:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

And you imagine I don't know that, particularly given the level of editing I do in British English? For heaven's sake, Aussie, use your head; you're too smart not be able to contextualize my comments better than you have here. We're talking about an American TV show article where American English is used, and I'm discussing with a comparatively new editor, so my priority is comprehension. Now is not the time for expansive discussion of the use of American v. British English on the Wikipedia. Use of a slash was never correct in American English, except in some narrow financial applications (as noted in the MOS). and the preponderance of American TV articles use the en-dash, also as noted in the MOS. (And we'll avoid getting into how you lot pronounce a variety of things, beginning with Los Angeles; you can make your arguments without stooping cheap stereotypes.) --Drmargi (talk) 14:47, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Need Help Please

Some One Again Changed The Nationality Of Actor Jack O'Connell To british From Irish-British And Locked The Page,Could You Please Change His Nationality To Irish-British,Please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.228.142 (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm new to wiki and I want to let you know that I was in no way trying to "war" with you. (I just discovered that you were the cause of my edits going into the ether when you messaged me today in my "talk". I just thought I was doing something wrong and that my edit was just disappearing.)

I simply thought that wiki was supposed to contain the most up to date information and that the second season voice-over would be of importance. I'm not one for bureaucracy when it comes to adding facts to wiki articles. I wouldn't know what facts should and shouldn't be added.

I think I'll refrain from attempting to edit any more on wiki. It's just not what I thought it would be. Not intuitive at all. Thanks for enlightening me before I spent time trying to figure it out.

Xenophoric (talk) 03:30, 11 December 2012 (UTC)