Talk:The Phantom Pain

This article should be speedy deleted

Is an insult to Wikipedia to keep a viral advertising from Konami, that seems that doesn't care to the credibility of this encyclopedia. But in the meantime, please, don't give trust to the existance of this game, or we will do the interests of Konami. --87.4.244.199 (talk) 13:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

What is your source to this being viral advertising? Until proven it should be treated as a separate IP.--Ifrit (Talk) 14:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Information currently known: this is a new IP from a Swedish Studio. Unless you are 100% sure it's a marketing campaign you shouldn't touch this article.

--83.80.219.59 (talk) 19:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid 5 conspiracy

Uhhh shouldn't we point out how it's very likely to be a Metal Gear Solid Marketing campaign 108.25.192.207 - 01:11, 9 December 2012‎ (UTC)

That's speculation though. Speculation isn't allowed on Wikipedia, and as to my knowledge it isn't a hundred percent confirmed. --Anddo (talk) 03:07, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

There's a difference between the speculation of the Wikipedia editors and speculation in the gaming media. If it's well sourced from notable video game journalism websites I don't see how a small section on this is a problem.--Ifrit (Talk) 07:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Just created the section, and I got the information from IGN and Gamespot. Besides those two, I also know that forbes.com also declared that it was Metal Gear Solid 5 on this article, but I wasn't sure whether I should use that as a source. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Speculation has no exceptions according to WP:VG. Forbes did not confirm anything either, we need solid proof (pardon the pun). Until then we have to follow exactly what's going on in order to get that confirmation. --Anddo (talk) 23:20, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I have come to agree with you. Until further is revealed Wikipedia should treat this as a standalone IP. My edits to the section was mostly an attempt at making it encyclopedic. For now though, we need to focus on this article not getting deleted along with the Joakim Mogren article. Lumping this in to be deleted along with an article created by vandals is bogus. The AfD nominator has no proof this ISN'T a standalone IP. --Ifrit (Talk) 12:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The section should be trimmed to purge the specific speculation; but as the link is so widely mentioned in multiple reliable sources, a single sentence saying that the game has been received with multiple reviewers suggesting a link between the two franchises. There are enough reliable sources to support that statement, and the refs can provide the specifics of the speculation if anyone wants to look further. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The internet is getting their information from neogaf.com just because of their wild conspiracy theories. If neogaf were not speculating, then people would of come to their senses that The Phantom Pain is just a new IP from a brand new studio in Sweden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ap66 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)