Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dieter Fensel

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The result was keep. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:08, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Dieter Fensel

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Nominate for deletion Has been tagged as of uncertain notability for over 5 years. I could find nothing to confirm notability. Boleyn (talk) 09:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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• Delete - while he appears to be a prolific writer of published books I can't find anything about him beyond his university bios. I certainly don't see multiple independent sources. James086^Talk 15:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
• Keep. Google scholar gives over 20 papers with over 100 cites, a few with over 1000 cites. I lost count. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC).
  • Comment How many of these 20 publications are really his own papers (his name comes on the first position), and how many are just joined work of several researchers or even only edited books, where sometimes tenths of authors could contribute? How many of these papers are papers of PhD students, where traditionally the name of the supervising professor is added to the list of authors? Is this number of citation significant if comparing it to other professors of computer science? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.32.221.170 (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

@anon spa: Perhaps you would like to answer these questions yourself to help other editors. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC).

• Keep. Very clear pass of WP:PROF#C1. Re the insinuations of the anon spa: one of his multiple over-1000-citations publications is a single-authored book, Ontologies, and he is first author of another ("The web service modeling framework WSMF"). As Universitätsprofessor at Innsbruck he most likely also passes criterion #C5. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:54, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment For comparison: Work of Jim Hendler and Tim Berners Lee (the ones, who established the domain in which Fensel is a researcher) has almost 15K citations (The Semantic Web); The work of Thomas Gruber on ontologies - 10K citations (Ontologies). At the same time, when I look at amazon comments regarding one of the positions mentioned by User:David Eppstein, I see that they are rather moderate ([1] Amazon). The point is, that Fensel tried to be quite active in the Semantic Web domain 10 years ago, while aiming to establish his own field - Semantic Web Services. Here he failed and simply gave up on this work around 2007-2008 (see the latest drafts at - WSMO or check some of Semantic Web conferences - there are no Semantic Web Services tracks already for several years). It has happened not much after that - while he remains a professor at University of Innsbruck, his primary focus is the domain of e-tourism (e.g. SESA, where so far there are no evidences of notability at all). Taking the current state of wikipedia entry, it seems that even the main Subject (or any of his students) was interested in for the last few years to update Fensel bio on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.32.221.170 (talk) 20:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
• Keep. Fensel is notable as an academic, and is also a public figure by virtue of having been involved in a minor scandal [on by the Irish Independent] -- comment added by Witbrock (talk) 19:24, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep, obviously, per the clear pass of multiple counts of WP:PROF demonstrated above. Why on Earth was this relisted? Phil Bridger (talk) 10:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
• Keep Google News throws up quite a few sources about him and his projects, although most are in German.[2][3][4][5][6] --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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