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Let's get this party started! Rhode Islander 03:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article would get a lot by being translated from french. PurpleHz 12:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

list bretons wrong

Votre liste de bretons est fausse (wrong) en partie, Alain IV n'était pas present selon les historiens d'aujourd'hui, Mme keats-rohan par exemple, c'est une erreur de chroniqueur, regardez l'article equivalent sur wifi français bien plus complet. Par exemple, il y a Alan Rufus et Alan the Niger, fils d'eudo de Penthièvre, raoul de Gael, etc. Les bretons possédaient apès 1066, 25% des fiefs, juste après les Normands, dont l'honour de Richemont, l'un des plus riche, . Les stuart et votre reine, viennent d'un breton de Dol, Alain Fitz Flaad. patay marc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.168.156.98 (talk) 16:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Unreferenced Names

Due to the inclusion of many unsupported and unreferenced names, these have been removed to the talk page, here, for safe-keeping and replaced with a new list, fully referenced to unimpeachable sources, based on the excellent article in French Wikipedia "Compagnons de Guillaume le Conquerant".(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 13:53, 19 November 2010 (UTC))"Normans:[reply]

French:

De la Poer[1]

Bretons:

Flemings:

Any of these names can of course be reinstated, but with reliable sources being provided, please.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 13:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

^ Round, John Horace (1892). Geoffrey de Mandeville: A Study of the Anarchy. London: Longmans,Green, & Co. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
^ Sewell, Robert. "Battle Abbey Roll". Retrieved 2008-01-19. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

On your list, there are only proofs for Odo of Bayeux, Robert de Mortain, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey, Richard Fitz Gilbert de Bienfaite and Eustace II of Boulogne. PurpleHz (talk) 16:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, lost my internet connection before I could update the article with the list of 15 "Proven Companions". Please see revised article, in 10 minutes' time, hopefully.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Eric Genealogist Edit: I would like to add the following companions that may have been Breheny-Brewer Knights that accompanied William The Conqueror to Britain. I state the names that translate to Brehon, Brewers and Briennes that were both British and French names that were fairly interchangiable during the time period.

These names I had seen at another genealogy website on the internet that has now been apparently deleted at about a year ago. Plaque Numbers (22) Auvrai Breton(61) Drew de la Berviere (de la Bervihre) (66) Ernies de Baron. Other names included these such as Raoul de Bruiere (de la Bruihre), Guillaume d'Eu, Guillaume Comte d'Evreux, Herve le Berruier, Honfoi de Bohon, Hugue de Brebeuf. British translations of these names are very compatiable to LeBrus (The Bears), Son Of Bruis, Son Of Braose, de Braose, Baron de Braose etc. The French Knights names above mentioned would also have translated into the British names of "Brewers". All these names in my 19years of research span the Breheny-Brehon-Brewster Family names that are mentioned in the Domesday Books of the 10th Century and that I have used to do my genealogy up to the present date. On other websites on the internet are other source material that refer to the same names that I have written above that correspond to the Dives-sur-mer Church Plaque.

Additional Ancestorial Names of the Breheny-Brewster Genealogy of interest with dates continuation: (Family Tree and Royal Cousins Exerpts) Personal Genealogy Family Names Sheets Of "eric_historian" Sub Group Page 2 Family (13) Richard I "The Fearless" Duke Of France b. 933AD-Dd. 996AD Aprx (14) Richard II "The Good" Duke Of Normandy France b. 963 Dd. 1026AD, Page 3 FG (15) Alice Of Normandy, Richard III Duke Of Normandy, Robert I "The Magnificent", (16) Robert I "The Magnificent" Duke Of Normandy b. 999AD Dd. 1035AD, (17) William I "The Conqueror" King Of Britain b. 1024AD Dd. 1087AD, (18) Richard I "The Fearless" Duke Of Normandy" b. 933AD Dd. 996AD, Child: Geoffery Brionne b. 953AD Dd. 996AD, (19) Gilbert FitzGodfrey Crispin Count d'Eu And Brionne Normandy France b. 1000AD Dd. 1040AD-Was assassinated-Wife Gunnora d'Anjou b. 984AD France, (21) Gilbert Count d'Eu And Brionne-Married Esilia Crispin-Child: Richard FitzGilbert 1st Earl Of Clare, (22) Count Jean Brienne b. 1050AD Dd.1136-7AD -Child: Jean de Brienne.

There is a host of other names that I may add to this list later on but at this time the readers of this talk can get the idea and perhaps finish this list of names, as I have noted these are my ancestors that I have spent 19years of research on, when I get more time then I will complete this list up to 1066AD.

Eric Brewster GenealogistEric Genealogist (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Brewster GenealogistEric Genealogist (talk) 16:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guillaume de Moulins la Marche in Roman_de_Rou
Guillaume de Moulines S. de Falaise in the Falaise Roll
Guillaume de Falaise in the Dives sur Mer
Sir Guillaume de Moulins, de Falaise in Battle Abbey Roll.
Guillaume Desmoulins. in Holinshed's Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland

That's 5 out of 8 of all the secondary sources for William De Moulin (Guilliam des moulin - Molyneux).

I'm almost for certain at this point this name can be added. Also they descended from Molyneux-sur-seine in Normandy where they were guardians of Chateau Robert de Diable and into the Earls of Sefton (molyneuxs) after being granted massive land grants by William the Conqueror himself after the battle of Hastings. 08:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

[1] Round, John Horace (1892). Geoffrey de Mandeville: A Study of the Anarchy. London: Longmans,Green, & Co. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[2] Sewell, Robert. "Battle Abbey Roll". Retrieved 2008-01-19. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

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 Eric Brewster Genealogist[[User:Eric Genealogist|Eric Genealogist]] ([[User talk:Eric Genealogist|talk]]) 16:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
+*Guillaume de Moulins la Marche in Roman_de_Rou
+*Guillaume de Moulines S. de Falaise in the Falaise Roll
+*Guillaume de Falaise  in the Dives sur Mer
+*Sir Guillaume de Moulins, de Falaise in Battle Abbey Roll.
+*Guillaume Desmoulins. in Holinshed's Chronicles of England, Scotland and Ireland
+That's 5 out of 8 of all the secondary sources for William De Moulin (Guilliam des moulin - Molyneux).
+I'm almost for certain at this point this name can be added. Also they descended from Molyneux-sur-seine in Normandy where they were guardians of Chateau Robert de Diable and into the [[Earls of Sefton]] (molyneuxs) after being granted massive land grants by William the Conqueror himself after the battle of Hastings. 08:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)