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How do I get consensus on one sentence if no one will discuss it? Everyone seems good at reverting and citing Wikipedia rules but I have yet to receive a constructive response. How long should I wait? If it is not on the page, what incentive do they have to respond?

Sense

http://www.sense.nl/docs/985 <--this is what SENSE is

please go the website and read the name of the institution http://www.sense.nl/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowkeyvision (talk • contribs) 05:16, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Jewishness, Miliband, etc.

A note to those interested in the current kerfuffle about Jewishess, particularly as it relates to Ed Miliband. There's all sorts of nonsense speculating about the motives of people who want him to be identified as Jewish; much of this is summarized as "Jew-tagging", a rather unsavory term. Here's my motivation: I am interested mainly in good arguments/reasons, and the reasons adduced by people who oppose me on this question are really quite poor. When I see a poor argument, I am often interested in explaining why it is poor. On this particular issue, it is a matter of scholarly competence: I have published in peer-reviewed journals on this issue and am quite confident in knowing what I'm talking about. I've been here long enough to know that scholars are usually treated poorly when editing Wikipedia on the basis of their own expertise -- we're all equal here, heh heh. So, fine -- except that it feeds my motivation to pursue the issue. I am by no means on a campaign to "tag" large numbers of BLP subjects as Jewish; again, my main impetus w/rt Miliband is that the arguments of some contributors here are so woefully misinformed. Nomoskedasticity (talk)

Alexis Bittar

Sorry, that SPA ive been correcting made changes before you and I reverted to their trash version plus on iPad!.--Nixie9 (talk) 19:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• i suspect Arbedit is the home account of COI account used from company ip last week--Nixie9 (talk) 19:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, likely. You might want to be mindful of 3RR as well. In my opinion the last edit by ARBedit was not a problematic one and did not need to be reverted. Since you've now exceeded 3RR you might consider self-reverting. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about the ham-handed edits, I was on an exercycle, on an iPad. I'd like to consider the edits a single rollback to the pre-vandalized version. I did not mean to wipe your intermediate tag, but the result was hopefully the best achievable option. I will address that tag today. Hopefully a 3RR review would let me slide under the COI/sockpuppet/vandalism exceptions! I appreciate your involvement, the 3 identities of this editor need to hear another voice besides mine. Cheers! --Nixie9 (talk) 19:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Recently deceased are still covered by WP:BLP, read it.

Please note that articles about the recently deceased are covered under WP:BLP. Please edit Aaron Swartz accordingly. Yworo (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

That provision is intended to address sensitivities of relatives. There is no issue of that sort here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Swartz

Hey Nomo, I know you and yworo both have the best intentions regarding the BLP, self-identification of religion. Come to the talk page and let's discuss. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 18:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposal: One, let's drop the personal attacks quick. Templates as well won't help.

Proposal 2: Compromise: Category:American_people_of_Jewish_descent. This we can source and it avoids the self-identification problem.

Thoughts? Ocaasi ^{t | c} 19:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

It's an appropriate edit, so sure. Whether it is sufficient is another question. But it can be adopted because on its own terms it is an appropriate edit. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Great, I've suggested it here: Talk:Aaron_Swartz#Compromise:_Category:American_people_of_Jewish_descent. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 19:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Ocaasi. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Swartz 2

I'm only at 2 reverts; the 3RR rule says 3. I've asked admin Ed Johnston to keep an eye on the page. MarkBernstein (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you're assuming a revert is a repeat of a previous edit. Best to have a look at WP:3RR -- it doesn't mean that, and you're currently at 4. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Nope -- you're right, though my count is 3. I was confused -- I'm juggling a complex bit of NSUndoManager code here. Sorry. But at the IP has already reverted me again (!), no harm done. I do think this is appallingly POV and very badly timed. MarkBernstein (talk) 21:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, with the earlier removal of the category it's 4. I hope it's clear I'm not trying to give you a hard time -- rather the opposite, trying to help. Normally I'd suggest going to 3RRN, but that's not a good idea for you right now. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:42, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The category is a completely different topic. It's not the three edits per day rule. But -- on that one -- I've been asking high and low for guidance on the question. You mention above that you've published on the subject; might I have the reference? Or a pdf? Feel free to use email -- trivial googling should find me, or just post the citation here. MarkBernstein (talk) 21:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

That's the point, though -- it doesn't have to be the same topic, the removal of the category was a revert. (This is how it would be treated at 3RRN.) As for pubs -- I'd love to but I'm not prepared to reveal identity to anyone here. Sorry... Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough, though not terribly collegial considering that you know who I am and what I write. How about the most convincing argument for your position published by a colleague? MarkBernstein (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)