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This article would benefit from a discussion of the governor's actions prior to, during and after [[Superstorm Sandy]]--preparation, emergency management and recovery--apart from the presidential politics dimension. [[User:HopsonRoad]] 02:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC) |
This article would benefit from a discussion of the governor's actions prior to, during and after [[Superstorm Sandy]]--preparation, emergency management and recovery--apart from the presidential politics dimension. [[User:HopsonRoad]] 02:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Politics vs Science and Christie's weight == |
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I recently made an edit that someone quickly reversed, regarding the criticism of Christie's weight. |
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"''In February 2013, former white house physician Connie Mariano told CNN that she was worried about him dying in office. Mariano claims to be a republican as Christie is, so it is unclear if her comments were politically motivated. She did not site any statistical numbers to support her comments or contrast Christie's risk factors against other politicians with risk factors, such as Obama's smoking, the early death of both of Obama's parents, Obama's admitted cocaine use or the risk group of being a black male.''" |
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I understand my edit probably did not meet requirements to stand on its own. However, if this article is going to attempt to be unbiased, it should be pointed out that exceptional concern for Christie's mortality has not been backed up by citing statistics for the risk groups that he is in, nor has that been contrasting with the risk groups that other popular political figures occupy. |
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It does not matter if the junk science used to criticize Christie is politically motivated or driven by the ignorance of the soft science of the medical community and the influence they have on our culture. The facts and risk factors should still be explored, quoted and contrasted. |
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Immigration
I was puzzled a little seeing the whole "On immigration" section removed recently. In order that that work not be completely lost between the cracks, I hereby link to the most recent removal (for the text) and also give here the original removal explanation:
"removed completely non-NPOV section on immigration, with [sic] starts out with the value-laden claim he has been "weak" on immigration and which by the text's own admission hasn't been important in his career thus far".
The removed section said Christie "is generally considered weak on illegal immigration"; I haven't investigated whether the sources backed that point. I also noted, coming here, that there was an earlier discussion-section on immigration, also; which suggests some level of importance for the issue.
Those points being made, I'm not ready to take on the reworking of the section. I do hope this review/compilation can nonetheless be helpful somehow going forward. Swliv (talk) 20:27, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Holy Land visit
Regarding [1], if there are "Multiple sources" relating to Christie's visit to the Golan that characterize it in the manner done in the edit, the easiest thing to do would be simply to list those sources here. Otherwise, the article needs to preserve the language adopted by the RSes currently being used.—Biosketch (talk) 09:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Maintenance Tag
I added the POV tag because I agree with the IP who blanked the Obama section on the grounds it wasn't neutral. I restored it, but have applied the tag because the entire article is not exactly neutral. Feel free to let me know on my talk page, or here (but if here post a TB template on my talk please), if you disagree. Thanks, Go Phightins! 20:39, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed entirely with the neutrality concerns so had a crack at fixing the section in question with some less POV language, new references and different prose. Have also made the section a sub-heading under his Governorship, rather than as a standalone section (which was out of chronological order). If it is to revert back to a second level ("==") sub-heading then it should go after the section about his suggested presidential run. Stalwart111 (talk) 05:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- I blanked out the following two assertions, pending discussion, because they were not supported by the cited sources (which I left in place): "Christie's comments were made only days before the 2012 Presidential Election and were interpreted, by some, as an endorsement of the President at a critical time in the Presidential race. Reference: The race resumes: Obama buoyed by Christie praise as Romney tempers attacks. Others suggested the comments may have been designed to hurt Mitt Romney's campaign to allow Christie an easier path to the Presidency, were he to consider running in 2016 Reference: Gov. Chris Christie, an Obama critic, praises the president amid N.J. storm damage." Other than that, I believe that the POV tag can be removed, absent an explicit explanation of further issues. User:HopsonRoad 14:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I will remove the tag provided no one else has anything to contest. Go Phightins! 20:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- I blanked out the following two assertions, pending discussion, because they were not supported by the cited sources (which I left in place): "Christie's comments were made only days before the 2012 Presidential Election and were interpreted, by some, as an endorsement of the President at a critical time in the Presidential race. Reference: The race resumes: Obama buoyed by Christie praise as Romney tempers attacks. Others suggested the comments may have been designed to hurt Mitt Romney's campaign to allow Christie an easier path to the Presidency, were he to consider running in 2016 Reference: Gov. Chris Christie, an Obama critic, praises the president amid N.J. storm damage." Other than that, I believe that the POV tag can be removed, absent an explicit explanation of further issues. User:HopsonRoad 14:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Governor Christie and Mitt Romney
Jahjam13 (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)An article was posted by Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).John Munson/The Star-Ledger on Sunday, November 4 2012Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). about Governor Christie's decision to be the first governor to endorse Mitt Romney 13 months ago. Governor Christie spoke about that endorsement in relation to the compliment that he paid President Obama for his help. At Jahjam13 (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/as_gov_christie_reassures_nj_r.htmlCite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). Governor Christie made it clear that two people in the world know who he will vote for Tuesday. Those two people are Mitt Romney and President Obama. He will vote for Mitt Romney because he still believes he is the best man for the job of President. But Governor Christie said that our political system is obviously broken when he is criticized for giving credit to someone doing a good job, in this case the President, in dealing with Hurricane Sandy.Jahjam13 (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Actions as governor during Superstorm Sandy
This article would benefit from a discussion of the governor's actions prior to, during and after Superstorm Sandy--preparation, emergency management and recovery--apart from the presidential politics dimension. User:HopsonRoad 02:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Politics vs Science and Christie's weight
I recently made an edit that someone quickly reversed, regarding the criticism of Christie's weight. "In February 2013, former white house physician Connie Mariano told CNN that she was worried about him dying in office. Mariano claims to be a republican as Christie is, so it is unclear if her comments were politically motivated. She did not site any statistical numbers to support her comments or contrast Christie's risk factors against other politicians with risk factors, such as Obama's smoking, the early death of both of Obama's parents, Obama's admitted cocaine use or the risk group of being a black male."
I understand my edit probably did not meet requirements to stand on its own. However, if this article is going to attempt to be unbiased, it should be pointed out that exceptional concern for Christie's mortality has not been backed up by citing statistics for the risk groups that he is in, nor has that been contrasting with the risk groups that other popular political figures occupy.
It does not matter if the junk science used to criticize Christie is politically motivated or driven by the ignorance of the soft science of the medical community and the influence they have on our culture. The facts and risk factors should still be explored, quoted and contrasted.
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