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While a pretty innocent note at the time, the situation has changed concerning the public's perception of Saville, and it's currently difficult to read this without immediately reaching certain (potentially libellous) conclusions. Given current circumstances, is this line even noteworthy enough to deserve a place on Wikipedia given that the phrase is no-longer as innocent sounding as it once was. I believe the note should be removed or re-worded in some way, at least until the police investigation into Saville's activities has concluded, on the grounds of taste and fairness to Mr Hayes. [[User:Pobatti|Pobatti]] ([[User talk:Pobatti|talk]]) 19:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC) |
While a pretty innocent note at the time, the situation has changed concerning the public's perception of Saville, and it's currently difficult to read this without immediately reaching certain (potentially libellous) conclusions. Given current circumstances, is this line even noteworthy enough to deserve a place on Wikipedia given that the phrase is no-longer as innocent sounding as it once was. I believe the note should be removed or re-worded in some way, at least until the police investigation into Saville's activities has concluded, on the grounds of taste and fairness to Mr Hayes. [[User:Pobatti|Pobatti]] ([[User talk:Pobatti|talk]]) 19:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:This line has returned with the words "close friend" dropped, but still absolutely no source, and per [[WP:BLP]]: "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." |
:This line has returned with the words "close friend" dropped, but still absolutely no source, and per [[WP:BLP]]: "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." - we should not imply that Hayes was invited to but unable to attend Savile's funeral unless we have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] that states this. |
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:I've cut it pending a source. --[[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 17:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC) |
:I've cut it pending a source. --[[User:McGeddon|McGeddon]] ([[User talk:McGeddon|talk]]) 17:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC) |
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Stock replenisher
"...he took a job working as a stock replenisher for ... Sainsbury's" - sorry, but the internet is allergic to humour and subtlety: if he worked as a shelf-stacker, it's probably best to just say that he worked as a shelf-stacker Dom Kaos (talk) 22:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- As a previous employee of Tesco (though Sainsbury's may be different), I was a Stock Replenishment Operarative, and can say with a degree of certainty that shelf-stacking itself is simply one (albeit the most visible) of a number of distinct duties an SRO has. Unless we know for certain that Geoffrey just stacked the shelves, sticking to his job being referred to as Stock Replenishment Operarative is probably both safer and more accurate.
- Anyone unclear as to what a Stock Replenishment Operarative is can always find a Wikipedia entry with a full description of the job role. Pobatti (talk) 20:00, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Jimmy Saville connection
Given the recent situation regarding Jimmy Saville's alleged activites, and that there are various other (as yet un-named) public figures and celebrities under investigation in connection with Saville, I believe that something needs to be altered regarding this line:
"This led to him missing the funeral of close friend Jimmy Savile."
While a pretty innocent note at the time, the situation has changed concerning the public's perception of Saville, and it's currently difficult to read this without immediately reaching certain (potentially libellous) conclusions. Given current circumstances, is this line even noteworthy enough to deserve a place on Wikipedia given that the phrase is no-longer as innocent sounding as it once was. I believe the note should be removed or re-worded in some way, at least until the police investigation into Saville's activities has concluded, on the grounds of taste and fairness to Mr Hayes. Pobatti (talk) 19:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- This line has returned with the words "close friend" dropped, but still absolutely no source, and per WP:BLP: "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." - we should not imply that Hayes was invited to but unable to attend Savile's funeral unless we have a reliable source that states this.
- I've cut it pending a source. --McGeddon (talk) 17:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC)